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Old 2018-09-29, 20:33   Link #761
Guardian Enzo
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I think the point Horikoshi is stressing with Tintin is that his quirk has a huge range of usefulness, depending on the user. With someone really smart and dedicated like Mirio, it could be uber-strong. For the average person it could be powerful but problematical. And for someone too lazy to be arsed to figure out how to exploit it, it could be useless or even dangerous.

If one wanted to extrapolate from that, they might also see a message that all quirks are like that, to some extent.
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Old 2018-09-29, 20:38   Link #762
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High skill floor. High skill ceiling. There, done. Everything's easier with gaming terms
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Old 2018-09-29, 21:33   Link #763
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If one wanted to extrapolate from that, they might also see a message that all quirks are like that, to some extent.
Yes but I cant help to feel that some quirks are less useful, mainly the ones that give the user animal-like attributes or different body parts.

Those kinds of quirks have way less room for growth, and the general usefulness is limited to the user's own physical strength.

So rather than an actual power if ends up being just an upgraded normal human, or so to speak.
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Old 2018-09-29, 21:38   Link #764
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Yes, no doubt there's a range of inherent quirk usefulness, and the main message about Togata is about Togata himself. But I do think Horikoshi wants to make a point that every quirk is only as good or bad as the wielder.
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Old 2018-09-29, 23:48   Link #765
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Actually this fight shows once again that the damage dealing and damage soaking ability of everyone varies as needed for any particular fight. Mirio apart from his phasing is supposed to be a normal human but apparently training lets him gets super strength enough to one shot everyone in the class, even rock lad and Midoriya who has tanked hits that shattered walls that he was knocked back against. Sort of like Bakugo still having a jaw after taking a 5% punch from Midoriya much less shaking it off and winning the fight.And before anyone says martial arts they were just bog standard fists to the stomach.

I know that it is common in superhero comics as well but usually you have the excuse of different people writing the fights years apart.
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Old 2018-09-29, 23:54   Link #766
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I think Mirio's stopping power has to do with the abnormal speed at which he emerges. At least he's built enough muscle to not get hurt from the impact himself, and for now, his toughest target is, once again, Kirishima - although I'm not sure if the latter went for full body hardening or if it was just focused on his arms.
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Old 2018-09-30, 04:52   Link #767
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If she manages to make other stuff invisible besides her own body, then i would say she can become insanely OP. She would just need to learn martial arts and arm herself with certain types of weapons depending of the ocasion. In this scenario, the only ones able to defeat her would be the ones with extra sensory abilities or large AoE attacks.

Even in her current situation, if she removes her clothes, few can beat her. Imagine her against Deku. She could silently approach him and kick him in the balls..lol. There is nothing he could do since he can't see her and can't use sound like the Daredevil. She has an amazing ability. Learning martial arts would be the way to go. Ninjas would kill to have such skill
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She can refract and refocus light. Do that properly with enough focus, and you've got a laser.

And how capable she'll be in combat depends entirely on how much she's willing to train in that direction. The fact that you can't see her means she could walk right up to someone and knock them out. If she trains her hand to hand combat skills she could essentially do just what Mirio did here, and take everyone down without them being able to respond.
That's if her powers work like that. Which is a big if, substantiated by nothing. As far as we know, no amount of hard work can enable her to make other objects invisible, or to outright control light for anything but make herself invisible.

So yes, she's good at stealth. But once people know she's there, there's a wide range of powers that could take her out, and she doesn't deal with that barehanded, she practically negates her invisibility.
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Old 2018-09-30, 04:57   Link #768
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I think Hagakure was mainly created as comic relief / class filler. She can do nothing extraordinary and when seeing the challenges everyone has to face, it's a miracle she can keep up with the rest of class A. So, I just don't think about it, she doesn't get any focus in the first place.
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Old 2018-09-30, 05:20   Link #769
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That's if her powers work like that. Which is a big if, substantiated by nothing. As far as we know, no amount of hard work can enable her to make other objects invisible, or to outright control light for anything but make herself invisible.

So yes, she's good at stealth. But once people know she's there, there's a wide range of powers that could take her out, and she doesn't deal with that barehanded, she practically negates her invisibility.
She's already been shown to be able to bend light into a blinding flash though.
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Old 2018-09-30, 05:48   Link #770
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Strange choice to end the season with such a massive and clear cliffhanger. Introducing several important chars and a new villian in the last few episodes isnt a good idea imo.

People will need a full summary of the last few episodes once season 4 airs, and that could be next year or even in 2020.

And yes, Mirios powers dont make any sense. But this wsnt the first time powers in MHA worked with inconsistencys, look at how Ochaka saved deku from his fall in ep3 or 4 of season 1 and at what her powers are supposed be, with just making deku go into zero-g she couldnt have done anything.
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Old 2018-09-30, 07:52   Link #771
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I think Mirio's stopping power has to do with the abnormal speed at which he emerges. At least he's built enough muscle to not get hurt from the impact himself, and for now, his toughest target is, once again, Kirishima - although I'm not sure if the latter went for full body hardening or if it was just focused on his arms.
If you look at it he was just running along when he took out Kirishima no ground leaping involved. And surfacing can not give him that much speed or he would end up going higher. It might depend on how long he lets himself sink but we see the top of his arc when he goes after Midoriya and it was not that high.

But the real reason was that Horikoshi wanted a curbstomp so the class got curbstomped whether it made sense or not. Having Mirio actually have to work a bit to take down any of the class would have taken away from the overwhelming "hard work" power he was supposed to project.
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Old 2018-09-30, 08:03   Link #772
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Strange choice to end the season with such a massive and clear cliffhanger. Introducing several important chars and a new villian in the last few episodes isnt a good idea imo.
eh...having to refresh your memory is something you have to deal with regardless of the anime when it comes to multiple seasons.
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Old 2018-09-30, 11:29   Link #773
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That's if her powers work like that. Which is a big if, substantiated by nothing. As far as we know, no amount of hard work can enable her to make other objects invisible, or to outright control light for anything but make herself invisible.
Except she used it to let out a powerful burst of light in the license exam, which is how we now know that her quirk involves light rather than just some generic non-science-based invisibility.
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Old 2018-09-30, 12:43   Link #774
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Yes, no doubt there's a range of inherent quirk usefulness, and the main message about Togata is about Togata himself. But I do think Horikoshi wants to make a point that every quirk is only as good or bad as the wielder.
Well he can say that, but I highly doubt something like Dupliarms, Suga Rush or Frog have as much potential as Zero Gravity or Creation.

Matter/reality-altering and elemental quirks will always have more room for potential than physical quirks. Except One for All because ět's ridiculously strong enough to offset the disadvantages of this kind of quirk. Muscle Augmentation is another notable exception,
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Old 2018-09-30, 17:08   Link #775
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A cliffhanger is when the story leaves off in the middle of the action.

Introducing some characters that will probably be important later is either foreshadowing or a sequel hook not a cliffhanger. This is an extremely important distinction.

A cliffhanger would be if the season ended right after All For One entered the scene for the first time.



There is no action to leave off in the middle off. Just some pieces of info, props and setpieces that are relevant to a future arc.
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Old 2018-09-30, 17:44   Link #776
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Well he can say that, but I highly doubt something like Dupliarms, Suga Rush or Frog have as much potential as Zero Gravity or Creation.
...You really should take a look and see just how awesome Tsuyu-chan has been in recent chapters.
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Old 2018-09-30, 21:19   Link #777
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Well that was a one sided fight but who want to punch a guy who loses his pants faster then Gray

6/10 Wondering how much more Izuku is going to get injured in the next season
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Old 2018-10-01, 01:27   Link #778
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Good ending. Cool characters. A rare shot of Yaoyorozu with her hair down (haaaaawt!).

No complaints save I wish it was time for S4 already lol.
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Old 2018-10-01, 02:36   Link #779
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I don't know about you but I find "intangibility" a rather basic power. Having managed to train himself to weaponise this to ridiculous effect doesn't speak of his quirk, it speaks of the character himself. It doesn't even come with the required secondary power of making you able to breathe while inside a wall, or not fall through the floor without keeping at least your soles tangible. The guy can't even manage to keep his clothes on and has had to train himself to put his pants back on in the heat of the moment to prevent people from seeing his weewee.

The only handy thing that comes with his power is the fact that solid matter will just eject him rather than outright kill him.
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Old 2018-10-01, 02:39   Link #780
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eh...having to refresh your memory is something you have to deal with regardless of the anime when it comes to multiple seasons.
usually the seasons end quite self-contained, the new stuff is connected of course but not where its like a arc basically starts in the last few episodes and than goes into the new season in order to be finished
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