Claymore - Episode 11 Discussion / Poll

[littletomatoes]

this episode was disappointing because they did not include the one crucial thing I was waiting to see- as presented in the manga, right before miria told the others that they've already "awakened".

the anime omitted an important piece of information miria should have told the others. But instead of sticking to the manga miria just said in the anime "no, i have not found anything within the organization yet".

this doesn't really count as a spoiler, for there is really nothing to "spoil". But this just irks me because I thought that scene in the manga (that the anime failed to follow) is supposed to set the stage for a lot more future anticipation and tension.

[Defiled one]

So it seems that they are powerfull as single digits now? ... I don´t buy it.

[toxic_trance]

A very well deserved 9 according to me. For a show full of explanation MADHOUSE did an excellent job and more so for an awesome job on Galatea. The image of Galatea has been captured perfectly from the manga. No wonder that there are so many Galatea fanboys right now.

Well, the show definitely becomes more exciting now with hopefully as much action as much in the manga. Ophelia will be here next episode and it will be gr8 to see how her voice actor does the job. From the small preview we got from Miria's past, i think the VA is good.

[littletomatoes]

does anyone else not notice when the anime left out the part where miria says in the manga

Spoiler for scene left out from manga:

"I was researching the organization .... and that's when I found out the organization's biggest secret."

how can they leave something that important out??!!?

[zato_1one]

That's may be a sign of very bad news. It may indicates that there is no second season...

Originally Posted by Defiled one

There never was a second season in planning.

For now but next time who knows...

[Defiled one]

There never was a second season in planning.

[chrry370]

Although this episode focused on more talk than action, i actually enjoyed it... I liked the prospects of them four being the 'foursome' attempting to bring down the organisation despite the quarrels in the beginning of the mission.

And whats up with the man in the forest? A parent concerning for its child? Yeah right... Loved miss #3 Galatea's sense of humour, keep your "parent concern for its child" in check...something of those lines...

I'm glad Miria showed the top 5 symbols..because i was dying to see what rank galatea was... initially i thought she was no 1 because of her great skills in sensing yoki... can you actually say that her ability was exactly like Teresa's?

and was no 4 in Miria's flashback? Miria seemed to imply that...no?
The other thing i liked about this episode most was that we could see the depth of potential Clare had. I mean she sensed Galatea! That has got to mean something as Miria and co couldn't pick Galatea off their radars! lol

voted 8 for this one

[zato_1one]

Originally Posted by Defiled one

So it seems that they are powerfull as single digits now? ... I don´t buy it.

Even themself did not believe Miria.

Deneve: Really?
Helen: Don't feel that way at all.

I also thought that Miria might over-estimate them. At this state they were still no match to single digits. If they couldn't maximize their half-awakened power, imo.

Originally Posted by Mentar

Baah, this needless panic about the second season.

Guys, this manga will continue for 4-5 more years. OF COURSE there will be no definite decision about a second season right now. How is that supposed to work? Nobody would know if MADHOUSE would even BE THERE in 4-5 years.

Storywise, the deviation from "I discovered the biggest secret" (manga) to "No, I haven't found anything conclusive" (anime) is negligible and doesn't make any difference yet. If anything, it would be more Miria-ish to underplay her hand, especially since at the moment she has nothing to tell the other girls.

So take a deep breath and relax

You're right. I just panic a little.
Ugh... My bad. I clicked a wrong score in the poll...
May be I didn't have enough sleep. - -"

[Mentar]

Baah, this needless panic about the second season.

Guys, this manga will continue for 4-5 more years. OF COURSE there will be no definite decision about a second season right now. How is that supposed to work? Nobody would know if MADHOUSE would even BE THERE in 4-5 years.

Storywise, the deviation from "I discovered the biggest secret" (manga) to "No, I haven't found anything conclusive" (anime) is negligible and doesn't make any difference yet. If anything, it would be more Miria-ish to underplay her hand, especially since at the moment she has nothing to tell the other girls.

So take a deep breath and relax

[dutchman]

I guess it says enough about this anime if even an episode without lots of action can provide such entertainment. I rated it an 9.

I really loved how Madhouse displayed the shared feeling of close comrades and created an we (4 half-awakened claymores) against the rest of the world (the organisation) feeling.

The Claymore world is indeed not as black and white as it first seemed. (Its no longer Claymore / Organisation = good and Yoma / Awakened = evil) . Clare and her 3 new friends as of now also have worry about avoiding discovery of their nature by the organisation themselves.

Its indeed like our lovely Miss Claymore said at the end of the episode "How many of them will survive long enough to meet me in the end?..A thorny path, indeed.." a fitting closure to an well executed episode.

[Poochi]

Anyone notice the slight changes to the OP credits as well? Even parts of the lyrics seem to have changed.

So if Miria knew Hilda, which I recall Flash Sword WhatsHerName (I've already forgotten thanks to Galatea) refered to as No. 5 before Priscilla bumped her off, then she should have know Teresa personally as well?

And random innkeeper strikes again!

[Majek]

Wasn't that one called Elda?

[Child_of_Sierra]

The part about the innkeeper was a bit forced though, at that point in the episode it was totally unnecessary for the audience to hear and highly inappropriate to keep on repeating to someone who obviously cares about claymores (raki).

talk about insensitive

[EasyPrey]

I think the part about innkeeper was very important. It let us know:

1) Other teams of Claymores have gone up against this awaken being.

2) The information supplied to our team was falsified. I.E. the org knew about the power of this awaken being yet they lied to the claymores.

What makes it worse, is that among the local population, this was common knowledge (hence the innkeeper's remarks). So there is no way the org (which lost many claymores to this awaken being) did not know about it.

Ultimately, that scene is the key scene that clinched that, that this was a trap setup by the org to kill these Claymores. Heck, the org had a "system". Claymores that they wanted to get rid of, were sent to this awaken being.

-EasyPrey

[Shinen]

yes, Miria's friend is "Hilda", the one Noelle mentioned was "Elda" - eventhough these names are most likely derivations from each other, don't think she changed her name

[cf18]

Miria is very interesting, in many ways she is more soft then Teresa. She cares a lot about her fellow sisters - almost lost control over killing a close friend who was fully awakened, and spent her phantom moves to rescue the others. She didn't prepare her sword against the awakening Deneve, unlike the others. I doubt she can be effective if she was ordered to hunt down someone like Teresa.

And base on her description, Ophelia is a complete opposite of Miria.

[Anh_Minh]

EasyPrey: It's not like we didn't know before, what with the innkeeper's first "slip of the tongue", or Galatea's handler's comment that "it was a special Awakened".

Myopus: I don't think Galatea heard anything. She just sensed the emotions of the Claymores.

[HinaThePrince]

Originally Posted by Shinen

the one Noelle mentioned was "Elda"

When did she mention her? o_o

[thundrakkon]

Originally Posted by Child_of_Sierra

Then again maybe Miria was just paranoid connecting their unusual awakening with the reason for their grouping. It could be as simple as their rebellious nature against authority that prompted the mission and the org was totally unaware of their condition. (if 4/47 can be half-awakened then maybe there are more than 4 and not all of them are killed cause they at least don't have authority issues?)

I am pretty sure that the organization keeps a close eye on them at all times, even if from a distance.

However, their rebellious nature is more of a key to why the organization is getting rid of them than just the awakened state, in my opinion. Say for example, you have an obedient Claymore who awakens. Possibly, it would not care less about the organization or want to do anything to it (like Priscilla per say. If she wanted to, I don't think the organization would be here anymore).

Now, if you have a Claymore who is not obedient, and possibly wants to go against the organization, once that Claymore awakens, it could prove to be quite a threat to the organization.

Oh, and as for Galatea, she has only 2 choices in her future. Join Clare, or die.

[Majek]

Originally Posted by HinaThePrince

When did she mention her? o_o

05.34 in Eclipse sub or v4(ch18)p88

edit: oh, i never pay much attention to names of dead claymores. nvrmnd then