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View Poll Results: Macross Delta - Episode 15 Rating
Perfect 10 2 8.33%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 7 29.17%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 3 12.50%
7 out of 10 : Good 5 20.83%
6 out of 10 : Average 5 20.83%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 4.17%
1 out of 10 : Painful 1 4.17%
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Old 2016-07-10, 14:45   Link #21
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Old 2016-07-10, 15:02   Link #23
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Old 2016-07-10, 15:22   Link #25
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Old 2016-07-10, 15:23   Link #26
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I somehow doubts that the NUNS dropped a dimensional weapons on their own military base so they could lose the war they had against Windermere and leave the planet along...because that's what happened.
When did they show the NUNs blowing up their own base on Windermere?? I thought we didn't know what they targeted....did I miss something?
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Old 2016-07-10, 15:33   Link #27
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When did they show the NUNs blowing up their own base on Windermere?? I thought we didn't know what they targeted....did I miss something?
They didn't. There were forces stationed in the city that got blow up, but so were forces on the Ragna area that Evil NUNS Guy blew up in episode 13 before he left the planet satisfied with the results. They have precedent for blowing up civilians and their people and 'losing' a battle, leaving after collecting information. Then they can easily spin the blame on Windermere and "punish" them with an embargo. As if a bomb wasn't enough to piss them off.

It's like they want them to go to an aggression war because they hounded them (like kicking a dog when it's down). You know what I believe? That this corrupted NUNS branch of the zone, with maybe Roid or Epsilon. Or these are separate players, like Macross Zero, Anti and UN -now NUN- forces are tug battling for Protoculture Ruins Powers and native folks are caught up in their chess board. They are just making the Windermere mad to get them out their little snow planet and test that Fold Network Protoculture ruins. For that, they'll need to take the cluster and have a reason to try them on a big scale. Just saying. Once they are done, they'll come in and crush their small forces, take their wind singer and assume control.

Just my speculation. I could be wrong.
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Old 2016-07-10, 15:38   Link #28
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Maybe I need to repeat this again: Warcrimes you comitted don't magically go away because you were duped into them.
The point is who started the first crime. And Mind control has nothing to do with mind rape. Rape is always with sexual contact and since none of the windermere penetrates any free will in sexual term it is not a rape. domination and abuse yes. but not rape.

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Old 2016-07-10, 15:38   Link #29
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What kind of effect does this Dimension Bomb even have? Was it explained?

From what I can understand it somehow deteriorates Wind home planet. Isn't that a very ineffective way to deal with your enemy? If you want to drop a bomb onto something you do it with an intention to either kill the enemy or make them lose motivation to fight.

Applying 'poison effect' onto your enemy and watching it from distance all the while the enemy somehow decides not to fight anymore (at least for some time) is kinda stupid. You don't have any options to negotiate with victims of your attack, you can't have them accept truce while poisoned and dying, all you can expect is retaliation from an almost dead enemy since it has nothing left to lose.

If NUNs dropped that bomb it was either a test of new weaponry or a sadistic way to use force at your disposal, simply because you can.
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When did they show the NUNs blowing up their own base on Windermere?? I thought we didn't know what they targeted....did I miss something?
Roid showed a video of VF-22 dropping the dimensional weapon that destroyed Carlisle in this episode and claims NUNS did it.

Turns out there was a NUNS base (and civilians) in Carlisle and the town destruction is was caused NUNS to withdraw from Windermere and call a ceasefire. See the "The Black Storm of Carlisle" glossary entry on the official website...
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Roid showed a video of VF-22 dropping the dimensional weapon that destroyed Carlisle in this episode and claims NUNS did it.
Which Walkure identified as belonging to the NUNS.
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Which Walkure identified as belonging to the NUNS.
How does pretty painting on a plane change that the event is what caused NUN to withdraw from Windermere and call for a ceasefire?

Give me a good reason why NUN would blow up a military base and civilians (millions died) just to withdraw from Windermere and call a cease fire right after.

You can forget about "Windermere Protoculture ruins" experimentation, they aren't near Carlisle.
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How does pretty painting on a plane change that the event is what caused NUN to withdraw from Windermere and call for a ceasefire?
Scroll up to my previous posts.
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*edit* Sheesh, nobody has even mentioned the OP so far. Which is... pretty bad. Lots of repeated scenes from before in the show and the song is not as catchy as I'd like.
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*edit* Sheesh, nobody has even mentioned the OP so far. Which is... pretty bad. Lots of repeated scenes from before in the show and the song is not as catchy as I'd like.
True that, it's a bit of a downgrade from the last one. Not that I was a fan of the previous one.
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Is it just me or does anybody also see that the Sigur Valans look like an evil skull helmet?

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How does pretty painting on a plane change that the event is what caused NUN to withdraw from Windermere and call for a ceasefire?

Give me a good reason why NUN would blow up a military base and civilians (millions died) just to withdraw from Windermere and call a cease fire right after.

You can forget about "Windermere Protoculture ruins" experimentation, they aren't near Carlisle.
It's not only the painting but also the shown IFF ID Number. Why a bomb has been dropped may be revealed in the next episodes?
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Well, its NUNS they could do anything.

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