2010-04-29, 06:14 | Link #2022 | |
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I have always found his death one of the most touching part in the series, even Lelouch was really sad, which is rare. |
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2010-04-30, 02:55 | Link #2024 | |
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I mean, there is always Lelouch's death, who was even more amazing for me, cause it was Lelouch, but while I never really cared this much about Rolo before, his death scene was one of the best scene of the whole serie. How he came to save him, how the song began to play when he was using his geass again and again to run away from those who wanted Lelouch's butt, and his little speech about how Lelouch made him human again. That was beautiful and I think the little death scene in the woods, with the soft light, really suited him. In the end, even Lelouch fell for his little brother and was genuinely sad when he died, being all nice and kind to him. And he buried him. Lelouch, with his physical capacities which are similar to those of a sponge, he digged the grave all alone. All of this, tied to the wonderful song from Hitomi made of this scene something worth watching. I remember, back at thos times in AS, while most weren't rabid Rolo's fans, most of us were genuinely sad, and got our little "IhavesomethinginMyeyeImnotcrying..." moment :/ Lelouch's death for the pain, the awesomness and the terrible irony Rolo's death for the softness, the sadness, and Lelouch's kindness Euphie's death for the violence, the pain, and the terrible irony (she was dying while everyone was spating on her because of a terrible mistake :/) Most beautiful death scenes ever. And those three did get amazing songs, which I guess, did play a part in how great those were.
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2010-04-30, 08:38 | Link #2025 |
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Another here who didn't like him till he died. It was very sad, especially the music and Lelouch acknowledging him at the very end. His Picture Drama actually made me cry a little, too.
Though to be really honest, his death would have been much more touching if wouldn't have made more sense for him to just kill the ungrateful bastards instead of sacrificing himself. I certainly wouldn't have missed most of them at that point. I dunno. I definetely feel sorry for him and think he's an interesting character, but it really kind of annoys me the way he keeps being shoved in all the recent images instead of other, quite frankly, more important characters. |
2010-04-30, 08:47 | Link #2026 | |
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But maybe they were too many, thus why he couldn't kill them all :/ As for not liking Rolo, personally, I never disliked him. I didn't care, that's about it, but he wasn't on my gravelist. I mean, we know the guy was basically nothing but a pawn since his childhood, and in the end, we know he wasn't really sane, because of that, thus, can hardly blame him for anything. What stand out in his PD (for me) was the scene where Lelouch is cutting his hair (I'm sure RoloLulu fans prefered the candlelight dinner though XD SUNRISE !), the biy had such QSFHSKJHGSHG*wannapinchyourcheeksandmakeyousmile* expression ! And Lelouch, all in his brainwashed state, was adorable with him. Btw,if someone remember, how was Rolo introduced as Lelouch's brother at first (I mean, to Lelouch ? I don't even remember the content of the PD :/) Lol about the pics, it's about marketing as usual, it's not this much a surprise, and quite francky, I kinda like those. Even though I'd rather see others, when they aren't trying to turn him in a drag, it's fine with me :'P
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2010-04-30, 12:46 | Link #2027 |
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Rolo's death was a Redemption Equals Death moment for me, really. While I do understand he had been a pawn since he was young, the moment he killed Shirley and subsequently intended to go fully into offing Nunnally as well was when he proved too dangerous to exist.
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2010-04-30, 13:23 | Link #2028 | |
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Yeah, if you're a sibling he likes, Lelouch would be the nicest person ever. Rolo never stood a chance. What got me was at the end of the PD, "That was the best time of my life. Even if it was all a lie, I'll never forget" ;.; The time they first meet's in the PD, too. I have a translation (that you should probably take with a pinch of salt) if you like. The reason it bothers me is because it's been made pretty obvious that the only reason he's been featured so much is just because some of the higher ups decided they like him, and I know that he's just not that popular a character. Emperor Siscon would probably like more shots with Nunnally anyway. |
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2010-04-30, 22:22 | Link #2029 | |
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2010-04-30, 22:41 | Link #2031 |
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I too saw the irony of the pendant that Arbitres spoke of. And the fact that he died saving Lelouch was indeed, redeming in my eyes! Even though I hated him for killing Shirley, he did grow on me!
And his death was one of the more traumatic in the series! Rolo had possibilities!
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2010-05-01, 02:51 | Link #2033 |
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In France, I never saw much hate against him.
Actually, I'm always surprised to see how people can look through Rolo's past like if that was nothing and tag him as terrible for killing Orange girl. If Rolo were to be judged, he'd be put in a medical institution, cause the guy, because of his BG, is was you might consider as an unable person. He is basically a little boy who doesn't see the difference between an human being and some lifeless stuff. Actually, what happened is all the agency fault, since they let him hang out with civilian so that he'll be Lelouch's brothers. It's like those children who are soldiers. They are endocrinated, manipulated, and don't have much of a choice. You can hate them for what they do but in the end, the real responsible is behind, it's the person who made of them what they are. They are nothing but victims for me, and so is Rolo. @ KittenLady : I read the translation a long time ago and I'd love to read it again :') Thank you ! And yeah the last line is really beautiful, thats basically the RoloLulu thema isn't it : "Even if it was a lie, the times we spent together were real !" Sad, but so, so true :') And I think he is pretty popular actually ! Like Roloko says, polls said so, and you have to take only a look at LJ to see that fangirls love him (it was pretty much the purpose of his creation anyway, since japanese have a thing for shota XD) When you see most of the promo stuff, it's either LuluSuza or LuluCC, not this much of a surprise to see LuluRolo, since well, the purpose of marketing is to sells, and you gotta love your shonen -ai :P And Lelouch doesn't have anything to say ! They put him on the page, give him fancy clothes, crazy finges, a piece of cloth, and a partner, that's about it :P
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2010-05-01, 05:41 | Link #2034 | |
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Well with that in the end it all comes down to character preferences and opinions everyone has different views on things if people decide not to see the full picture and only a fragment of it then thats ok I guess......
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2010-05-01, 10:49 | Link #2035 |
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It's could probably be more accurate, but you get the gist of it. I agree that Rolo was a wonderfully twisted character, but I just wished they'd focused more on that rather than "Ooh, isn't he cute!". I've never liked that whole 'moe shota' thing. Just doesn't work for me. I liked Rolo more when he was like this: RoloLulu is actually one of the few couples I don't like (the one's that actually have a following, anyway). Reciprocating Lelouch just strikes me as very, very out of character, so I have difficulty believing it. Unless it's a creepy stalker-ish onesided thing on Rolo's part, that's pretty cool. I swear if he'd lived longer he'd have eventually raped Lelouch or something. |
2010-05-01, 13:00 | Link #2036 | ||
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The comparison to Luciano is actually interesting. What's to say Luciano didn't have some sort of miserable background that justified his psychotic tendencies? It's not like psychopathy comes out of nowhere, y'know. If Rolo 'deserved' treatment and therapy instead of a death penalty in court, that'd probably go for Luciano as well (they'd both still be locked up anyway). Quote:
lol, I'll say it frankly: the majority if Rolo's appeal/popularity comes from the fact that he is psycho-moe shota Yaoi-bait. Sure, he's got a pitiful past and redeeming death scene and everything, but you can do that for any character (like I said above, take Luciano Bradley: give him a sob-story past and redeeming death scene, and I bet everybody'd be going "Oh I felt sorry for him at the end" as well ). I don't go for generic author tricks like that. If the character itself, what's inside them, isn't inherently likeable, then they're not going to earn my sympathy. I've seen dozens of better done death scenes than Rolo's, so with no hint of any changes from his "I'd shank anybody who threatens my relationship with Lelouch" personality, he goes into the 'generic psycho-moe shota Yaoi-bait who I would've forgotten completely long ago if he hadn't killed Shirley' bin for me. To make my position clear: there is no 'blaming' of Rolo going on, from me at least. He's just a non-character as far as I'm concerned. |
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2010-05-06, 02:54 | Link #2039 | |
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There were some powerful lines like the one you mentionned, but they didn't strike people enough, and I guess most'd rather go "oooh he is batshit insane, he has to die" or whatever. So easy to judge. Anyway, the guiy got an awesome death scene, and is pretty much loved by the staff, and not everyone can claim that. At least, Rolo's fans can enjoy what come out of this. And there is the fact that in the end, Lelouch forgave him. For whetever things he did he forgave him. That is awesome. And Rolo got a nice pause in Lelouch's flashbacks as well ^^ Guess their moments as brothers were really some good memories for him.
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2010-05-16, 08:30 | Link #2040 | ||
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Not to mention the whole scene on episode 7. Creepy! As for Rolo, I hate what he does on episode 13, however he is actually quite interesting. The ONLY thing that really bothers me besides that, is how he does whatever Lelouch says. I can understand that no one had ever loved him before, but seriously. |
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