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Old 2018-04-09, 20:38   Link #3661
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It's still amazing that ravel could keep up with Koneko in her shirone mode
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Old 2018-04-09, 20:49   Link #3662
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Well the House of Bael has accepted him. He forced them to by defeating his brother. They kind of have no other choice but to. Zekram wants him to become a Maou just so someone with POD can be the head of Bael. That's just as it's always been and you can't expect Zekram to change his mind about it since he's a really old and conservative devil. And who's really not concerned with pushing his views on anyone. He won't demand that all of the other houses follow his lead and he won't fail to acknowledge strong devils whether they be pureblood or reincarnated devils. He knows that the commoners will need strong and charismatic figures to be Maou in the future.
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Old 2018-04-09, 21:10   Link #3663
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It's not like ravel has been sitting around doing nothing, she trains too and most likely surpassed riser by a mile if she can spar with koneko now
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Old 2018-04-09, 22:13   Link #3664
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Not necessarily. Riser has sparred with Sairaorg you know? And Sairaorg>Koneko. Riser is a really strong devil and is considered a genius.

Mock battles are not as serious as real battles thus they don't fight seriously in mock battles. That's why it's called as such.
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Old 2018-04-10, 07:14   Link #3665
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@Lucidrago: Sairaorg's father still has a problem with him. And he's the Head of the House. I wasn't talking about Zekram at all.
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Old 2018-04-10, 09:38   Link #3666
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Mock battles are not as serious as real battles thus they don't fight seriously in mock battles. That's why it's called as such.
*remembers the training kiba did where he told issei to come at him with intent to kill*
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Old 2018-04-10, 12:34   Link #3667
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But Lord Bael can't prove that Sairaorg's not his son and can't just ignore his immense strength. So he has to accept him because of his pride as a noble.

You can have a problem with someone and still accept them. Whether you're forced to or not.

Kiba did that just so he could achieve Balance Breaker for Blade Blacksmith. And you kind of need an extreme catalyst for that.
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Old 2018-04-11, 16:41   Link #3668
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Honestly now that i think about it. Now this a BAD comparison by some people and i can understand if you think so. Power of Destruction is similar to Hakai in Dragon ball(the orbs atleast) and knowing Sairaorg's might he likely can do what Vegeta did. Punch through Power of Destruction. And Sairaorg is strong enough you can't deny that. He might not do it with his bare fist but with Touki very likely. With Regulus for sure.
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Old 2018-04-11, 17:00   Link #3669
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Hakai means Destruction and they also work similarly. But the difference is that Hakai in Dragon Ball is a type of God ki which makes it more powerful and potent than the DxD version.
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Old 2018-04-11, 17:06   Link #3670
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In DB yes Hakai is much stronger. True. But for example Sirzechs is on that tier. Not top tier but on the level where his PoD can be considered Hakai.
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Old 2018-04-11, 17:54   Link #3671
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PoD is like Hakai because the purpose of it is that it can erase anything out of existence. Matter, organic and even the soul can be erased.
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Old 2018-04-11, 19:06   Link #3672
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where was it said that pod can erase souls? As far as i know it only turns whatever it touches into dust or disintegrates it. And it depends on the users power, while hakai literally erase the designated target out of existence in a more massive scale than pod. So really is like a insult comparing the two.

Anyway it's best if we restrain ourselves with comparing DxD with other shows.
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Old 2018-04-11, 19:23   Link #3673
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Well just don't compare it to Dragon Ball.
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Old 2018-04-11, 19:50   Link #3674
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where was it said that pod can erase souls? As far as i know it only turns whatever it touches into dust or disintegrates it. And it depends on the users power, while hakai literally erase the designated target out of existence in a more massive scale than pod. So really is like a insult comparing the two.

Anyway it's best if we restrain ourselves with comparing DxD with other shows.
Grendel said something around that in V16.
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Old 2018-04-11, 20:40   Link #3675
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where was it said that pod can erase souls? As far as i know it only turns whatever it touches into dust or disintegrates it. And it depends on the users power, while hakai literally erase the designated target out of existence in a more massive scale than pod. So really is like a insult comparing the two.

Anyway it's best if we restrain ourselves with comparing DxD with other shows.
Volume 16:

Rias stands in front of us and creates a demonic-power of destruction within her hand.

"Even we don’t want to fight any longer. It’s better for an evil existence like you to get blown away. With my current power, I should be able to eliminate your soul as well."
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Old 2018-04-11, 21:24   Link #3676
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I see B214 and syzorst hmm but isn't that when she's charging extinguished Star? meaning that her normal attacks of pod can't do that? It really depends on the user dp and the opponent endurance.
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Old 2018-04-11, 21:31   Link #3677
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I see B214 and syzorst hmm but isn't that when she's charging extinguished Star? meaning that her normal attacks of pod can't do that? It really depends on the user dp and the opponent endurance.
Rias made that statement after she used Extinguished Star since Grendel waa left with just half a head left to which Crom Cruach stepped in he knew Gredel would be finished by Rias. And yes, PoD does depends on the user but the point I was making that PoD can erase anything out of existence which includes souls as well. Hence the reason why It's considered the most dangerous power from devils and held by the blood of the highest rank family.
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Old 2018-04-12, 00:01   Link #3678
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But has it erased souls? Ishibumi does provide a fair bit of hyperbole that really shouldn't be taken at face value.
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Old 2018-04-12, 00:28   Link #3679
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But has it erased souls? Ishibumi does provide a fair bit of hyperbole that really shouldn't be taken at face value.
"X can do Y" is not hyperbole, and the idea multiple characters would state that capability as fact if it wasn't true is just silly.
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Old 2018-04-12, 04:50   Link #3680
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Well have they seen POD erase souls?
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