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Guardian Enzo · 2016-07-17, 15:58

That was certainly the naughtiest piece of artwork I've ever seen from Suetsugu.

AntonKutovoi · 2016-07-17, 16:36

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Originally Posted by Irenesharda

And you know the Andragoras would just find something else to get on Arslan about. "I told you to get me 50,000 and you got me all these extra. Most of them are probably traitors and spies! Can't you ever do what you're told?"

And that actually would be a reasonable complaint, since all those extras will require food, unless Arslan will find a way to convert his good spirit into food rations

Yamada II · 2016-07-17, 17:19

Episode 3

So Hilmes escaped to the kingdom of Maryam after being saved. The king saved him for his own purposes. There Hilmes meets the princess of Maryam, Irina, a blind girl. He falls in love with her and stuff. But Lusitania invades and the selfish a-hole of a king surrenders and even sells off his freakin daughter. How big of a selfish scumbag is that king? Good thing Hilmes killed him.

The purpose of mentioning Maryam, a kingdom which no longer exists, is that Bodin is planning on restoring that place. He wants to distance himself from Innocentus and Hilmes. Or he wants to give Pars another pain in the ass in the form of a fourth enemy. And Maryam was across the sea which means that Arslan will be facing them since his destination is a port city.

As expected, everyone is believing that the story about Arslan not being of royal blood is true and he's being kicked out to prevent someone not of royal blood from ascending the throne. Andoragoras sure is harsh for not letting Narsus or Daryun accompany Arslan. And he even hates Narsus. He has Kishward swear loyalty to him again and probably does the same with Kubard and the other generals. Gieve, Farangis, Alfreed and Elam have no obligation to follow Andoragoras since they're not soldiers who have sworn loyalty to the king, and Jaswant isn't even a citizen of Pars so he's free to do whatever. The problem lies with Narsus and Daryun since they were explicitly ordered by the king to not accompany Arslan. But Andoragoras probably expected them to run off to Arslan anyway. But if Andoragoras really is planning on having Arslan take Pars for himself with his own army, then there won't be any trouble for Daryun and Narsus.

And now we'll get a change in outfits as they go to meet Narsus's distant relative who will also probably be a strategist like Narsus or a leader type figure because he doesn't look like a fighter based on the opening sequence at least.

PreSage · 2016-07-17, 19:46

I pity Hilmes for not having the good fortune to encounter people that may positively influence him. Irina may be the first and only person that could have saved him but, sadly, he let his thirst for revenge and desire for the throne cost him any possible means for happiness. Although I do wonder if Hilmes would show her the same kindess had he still been the Crown Prince before his father's death.

Anyway, I can only see a tragic end for this couple. Hilmes will certainly die but before or after Irina is a question - yes, I'm predicting Irina will die for Hilmes.

BPD Renegade · 2016-07-17, 21:46

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Originally Posted by PreSage

I pity Hilmes for not having the good fortune to encounter people that may positively influence him. Irina may be the first and only person that could have saved him but, sadly, he let his thirst for revenge and desire for the throne cost him any possible means for happiness. Although I do wonder if Hilmes would show her the same kindess had he still been the Crown Prince before his father's death.

I feel like he would have. He may not have Arslan's heart of a saint, since he grew up in the palace and likely had a privileged lifestyle, but he comes off as the type of character that was twisted by what happened to him and became completely obsessed with revenge, rather than one who was devoid of kindness since the beginning.

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Anyway, I can only see a tragic end for this couple. Hilmes will certainly die but before or after Irina is a question - yes, I'm predicting Irina will die for Hilmes.

Even though we all know he didn't, I was internally screaming for him to forget about the throne, take the girl, and run.

He had such a good thing, but he let it go to waste because he couldn't just settle. It makes me wonder if the masked shadow-man had any influence on him or if he really was just attracted by the hatred radiating from Hilmes.

KiraYamatoFan · 2016-07-17, 22:47

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Originally Posted by thundrakkon

I'm hoping Arslan recruits 100,000 troops loyal to him, just to shove it in his "father's" face.

You're not the only one.

However, Andragoras is the kind of king who deserves to be unceremoniously killed in broad daylight by a group of 12 people (namely Arslan and 11 of his most trusted allies) just as to how Julius Caesar was assassinated in the Ides of March. I know it won't happen like that in anime, but I would really enjoy the theatrical side of a scene with 12 people (like in a jury) carry out the death sentence themselves upon the tyrant with multiple stabbings.

Tak · 2016-07-17, 23:05

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Originally Posted by KiraYamatoFan

You're not the only one.

However, Andragoras is the kind of king who deserves to be unceremoniously killed in broad daylight by a group of 12 people (namely Arslan and 11 of his most trusted allies) just as to how Julius Caesar was assassinated in the Ides of March.

I somehow have a feeling you will appreciate the eventual outcome...

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Originally Posted by BPD Renegade

He had such a good thing, but he let it go to waste because he couldn't just settle. It makes me wonder if the masked shadow-man had any influence on him or if he really was just attracted by the hatred radiating from Hilmes.

Irina is too good for Hilmy. No, seriously.

- Tak

SuitUp · 2016-07-17, 23:27

I do get why Andragoras did what he did, the guy is terrified, and I mean scared to death of losing the throne, and Arslan campaing was already starting to threathen his hold over his subjects, as shown by Narsus and Dariun defecting, and the two swords guy implicitly allowing their scape.
The banishment he imposed on Arslan is by no means though love, is a way to get him out the way and retake the capital of his kingdom himself, the guy knows he's sending Arslan on a fool's errand, and the only reason he didn't killed him then and there was because that would have likely caused a revolt that would have costed him the throne.

Wandering Soul · 2016-07-18, 00:22

I honestly do pity Hilmes now. If he wanted to, he could just forget about all this and walk away with Irina into the sunset. His desire for revenge is just too strong though and I highly doubt he will let it go. He is basically missing out on a chance at happiness and I'm not sure that this couple will have a happy ending.

quigonkenny · 2016-07-18, 03:26

Holy crap, a nice(r) side to Hermes? He really is Prince Zuko. Fire Lord Ozai Osroes as final boss confirmed?

Guardian Enzo · 2016-07-18, 10:22

All we're missing is a psychotic sister.

Tak · 2016-07-18, 14:47

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

All we're missing is a psychotic sister.

As if we don't have enough psychos in the show already?

- Tak

Top Sergeant · 2016-07-18, 20:45

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

All we're missing is a psychotic sister.

Maybe Etoille sort of covers that.

KiraYamatoFan · 2016-07-18, 21:24

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Originally Posted by Wandering Soul

I honestly do pity Hilmes now. If he wanted to, he could just forget about all this and walk away with Irina into the sunset. His desire for revenge is just too strong though and I highly doubt he will let it go. He is basically missing out on a chance at happiness and I'm not sure that this couple will have a happy ending.

Even after watching that moment, it's one case where you can declare a character a lost cause after missing his only chance at redemption. The sorcerer was not wrong when he sensed Hilmes' desire to make the world burn to reach his goals. This will end badly for Hilmes and Irina by any stretch of the imagination.

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Originally Posted by Top Sergeant

Maybe Etoille sort of covers that.

Oh dear.

Tak · 2016-07-18, 22:06

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Originally Posted by Top Sergeant

Maybe Etoille sort of covers that.

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Originally Posted by KiraYamatoFan

Oh dear.

Yeah, this is one of those iffy things where I am not too sure how season II will cover in just 8 episodes.

The subplot between Etoille was never in the novels. Though I appreciated the addition in the anime adaption. Unfortunately, we are now 3 episodes in out of 8, and so far, this subplot that enriched seasion I is suddenly not explored upon. OTOH, the series also omitted a few characters, so we'll see.

- Tak

Guardian Enzo · 2016-07-19, 00:24

It kinda has top be Hilmes' sister for the analogy to work.

Stark700 · 2016-07-24, 04:38

Episode 4:

That was well...interesting.

Arslan made some new allies while also learns about what sea is like during his journey. Also, I think it's interesting that they introduced Shagad, a friend and probably rival(?) for Narsus. For some reason, I thin Shagad is hiding something from them..

Also from one of the conversations, I suspect that someone in Gilan is secretly feeding info to the pirates judging on their coordination. Good action this week. Daryun is badass as expected.

RDNexus · 2016-07-24, 07:12

After watching this episode, and given the OP & ED, doesn't it seem like they're gonna stop the adaptation on this arc?
Isn't the Part1 final arc supposed to be right after this?

Jerseykid · 2016-07-24, 13:29

Bad guy vibes from the new guy!

Randrak42 · 2016-07-24, 18:03

This is why I should stop watch the OPs for certain series...because they are often full of spoilers. Even if the show tries to hide it, seeing him fight Narsus in the OP makes it obvious that the new dude will be the main antagonist while the new bandana guy will be an ally.

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PreSage Strangely dependable... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: some random place out there...	I pity Hilmes for not having the good fortune to encounter people that may positively influence him. Irina may be the first and only person that could have saved him but, sadly, he let his thirst for revenge and desire for the throne cost him any possible means for happiness. Although I do wonder if Hilmes would show her the same kindess had he still been the Crown Prince before his father's death. Anyway, I can only see a tragic end for this couple. Hilmes will certainly die but before or after Irina is a question - yes, I'm predicting Irina will die for Hilmes. __________________ :\|::\|Sig Gallery\|::\|: --------------- [/TH][/TR][/table]

2016-07-17, 23:27	Link #108
SuitUp ¡Gracias Totales! Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Entre caníbales... Age: 31	I do get why Andragoras did what he did, the guy is terrified, and I mean scared to death of losing the throne, and Arslan campaing was already starting to threathen his hold over his subjects, as shown by Narsus and Dariun defecting, and the two swords guy implicitly allowing their scape. The banishment he imposed on Arslan is by no means though love, is a way to get him out the way and retake the capital of his kingdom himself, the guy knows he's sending Arslan on a fool's errand, and the only reason he didn't killed him then and there was because that would have likely caused a revolt that would have costed him the throne. __________________ Tómate el tiempo en desmenuzarme...

2016-07-18, 00:22	Link #109
Wandering Soul Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: America	I honestly do pity Hilmes now. If he wanted to, he could just forget about all this and walk away with Irina into the sunset. His desire for revenge is just too strong though and I highly doubt he will let it go. He is basically missing out on a chance at happiness and I'm not sure that this couple will have a happy ending. __________________

2016-07-18, 03:26	Link #110
quigonkenny Sav'aaq! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hyrule Age: 51	Holy crap, a nice(r) side to Hermes? He really is Prince Zuko. Fire Lord Ozai Osroes as final boss confirmed? __________________ FGO Info: (JP) 055835281 \| クワイガンケニー ==== (EN) 952525630 \| quigonkenny

2016-07-24, 04:38	Link #117
Stark700 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Somewhere on Earth	Episode 4: That was well...interesting. Arslan made some new allies while also learns about what sea is like during his journey. Also, I think it's interesting that they introduced Shagad, a friend and probably rival(?) for Narsus. For some reason, I thin Shagad is hiding something from them.. Also from one of the conversations, I suspect that someone in Gilan is secretly feeding info to the pirates judging on their coordination. Good action this week. Daryun is badass as expected. __________________

2016-07-17, 17:19	Link #103
Yamada II Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Pakistan Age: 28	Episode 3 So Hilmes escaped to the kingdom of Maryam after being saved. The king saved him for his own purposes. There Hilmes meets the princess of Maryam, Irina, a blind girl. He falls in love with her and stuff. But Lusitania invades and the selfish a-hole of a king surrenders and even sells off his freakin daughter. How big of a selfish scumbag is that king? Good thing Hilmes killed him. The purpose of mentioning Maryam, a kingdom which no longer exists, is that Bodin is planning on restoring that place. He wants to distance himself from Innocentus and Hilmes. Or he wants to give Pars another pain in the ass in the form of a fourth enemy. And Maryam was across the sea which means that Arslan will be facing them since his destination is a port city. As expected, everyone is believing that the story about Arslan not being of royal blood is true and he's being kicked out to prevent someone not of royal blood from ascending the throne. Andoragoras sure is harsh for not letting Narsus or Daryun accompany Arslan. And he even hates Narsus. He has Kishward swear loyalty to him again and probably does the same with Kubard and the other generals. Gieve, Farangis, Alfreed and Elam have no obligation to follow Andoragoras since they're not soldiers who have sworn loyalty to the king, and Jaswant isn't even a citizen of Pars so he's free to do whatever. The problem lies with Narsus and Daryun since they were explicitly ordered by the king to not accompany Arslan. But Andoragoras probably expected them to run off to Arslan anyway. But if Andoragoras really is planning on having Arslan take Pars for himself with his own army, then there won't be any trouble for Daryun and Narsus. And now we'll get a change in outfits as they go to meet Narsus's distant relative who will also probably be a strategist like Narsus or a leader type figure because he doesn't look like a fighter based on the opening sequence at least.

2016-07-24, 07:12	Link #118
RDNexus Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Age: 36	After watching this episode, and given the OP & ED, doesn't it seem like they're gonna stop the adaptation on this arc? Isn't the Part1 final arc supposed to be right after this?

2016-07-24, 13:29	Link #119
Jerseykid Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Bad guy vibes from the new guy!

2016-07-24, 18:03	Link #120
Randrak42 ANEGO Worshiper Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: By the vending machine, drinking tea.	This is why I should stop watch the OPs for certain series...because they are often full of spoilers. Even if the show tries to hide it, seeing him fight Narsus in the OP makes it obvious that the new dude will be the main antagonist while the new bandana guy will be an ally.