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Old 2018-04-15, 20:14   Link #2241
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It isn't, and in fact, having this much flak over her role meant that her delivery convinced a lot of people.
Nothing compared to Cerci's actress from Game of Thrones
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Old 2018-04-15, 20:16   Link #2242
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It isn't, and in fact, having this much flak over her role meant that her delivery convinced a lot of people.
I agree. If people got into her character that much, then she should be congratulated and offered more roles.
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Old 2018-04-15, 20:18   Link #2243
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I agree. If people got into her character that much, then she should be congratulated and offered more roles.
Absolutely, another person agrees.
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Old 2018-04-15, 20:34   Link #2244
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Absolutely, another person agrees.
Of course we agree, its those shiptards that freak out about stuff like NaruHina and do death threats. XD
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Old 2018-04-15, 20:36   Link #2245
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Meh, this level of melodrama is like watching Dawson’s Creek all over again (but with mecha-setting). And some people give Mari Okada some real flak for writing melodrama when the writing in Franxx is nothing better (if not worse).
Make no mistake, just because you got numbed to it doesn't makes it better either.

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I am talking about another anime... interview came out that he hated the cast of his last anime so much he wanted to kill them all off because they killed people... and seeing how 02 killed over 100 people I bet he thinks 02 is evil and most likely a ichigo fan
This must be Gundam IBO's Nagai deciding to wipe out the characters who were soldiers for killing people during war . Even Okada was against it, and you know something is really off when that happens .
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Old 2018-04-15, 21:14   Link #2246
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Did 02 ever feel remorse for killing >100 people? No

Even now her "regret" is only because Hiro was revealed as the original darling

Evil

See those horns? That's a symbolism for Evil
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Old 2018-04-15, 21:16   Link #2247
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people who ship this hard and are impacted that much by something like this need to reassess their priorities.

it's also not the VAs that make it convincing. it's the writing. they managed to get enough people invested through the last few episodes and cut deep enough to make them react like this. people who were in it just for the mech action grossly underestimated what this show was.
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Old 2018-04-15, 21:29   Link #2248
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It's classic emotional manipulation from the writers. Was it really that commendable?
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Old 2018-04-15, 21:50   Link #2249
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^ Yep, it's not really commendable. It's the usual melodrama practice hence my comparison to Dawson's Creek before.

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Make no mistake, just because you got numbed to it doesn't makes it better either.
Meh, at least Mari Okada's teen melodrama writings are mostly used properly for series meant for teen melodrama like Toradora which supported by the everyday setting. It also helps that Okada is a better writer overall. Franxx on the other hand, uses its interesting world-setting just for teen melodrama (so far). That is such a crying shame. This is why my favorite Franxx episode is still the Zorome-episode which actually explores the world. And Franxx has what, five writers or more?

Also, I have seen mecha-series with heavy focus on teen romance doing their job a lot better with melodrama being pushed back considerably, one of them is finally airing again this very season after more than ten years.
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Old 2018-04-15, 21:57   Link #2250
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ichigo ftw, osana najimi imouto waifu ftw!
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Old 2018-04-15, 22:17   Link #2251
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It's classic emotional manipulation from the writers. Was it really that commendable?
Hell no isn't, the convenient part where the two leave to look for the other at the same time was cringe worthy.
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Old 2018-04-15, 22:22   Link #2252
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Hell no isn't, the convenient part where the two leave to look for the other at the same time was cringe worthy.
The whole episode aside from Mitsuru’s talking to Hiro and Kokoro/Goro’s reactions was cringeworthy.
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Old 2018-04-15, 22:31   Link #2253
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For a moment I thought Goro was going to solve it but then he got Ichigoed.
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Old 2018-04-15, 22:35   Link #2254
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I agree. If people got into her character that much, then she should be congratulated and offered more roles.
Actually, it's a sign of the quality of the writing and directing along with the VA work for both episodes 13 and 14 that it's managed to stir up such positive and negative emotions in the audience. All of them deserve credit, but frankly so much of this rests on the team that did episode 13; they changed Zero-Two from a rather masculine heroine to a very human character with real, relate-able, insecurities and an internal logic to which all of her prior actions had been faithful. To my knowledge, Ichigo hasn't received that treatment yet, but it would be interesting to see her get that same treatment.
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Old 2018-04-16, 00:09   Link #2255
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Did 02 ever feel remorse for killing >100 people? No

Even now her "regret" is only because Hiro was revealed as the original darling

Evil

See those horns? That's a symbolism for Evil
Nice try Boo
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Old 2018-04-16, 00:52   Link #2256
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Nice try Boo
Obvious strawman is obvious.
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Old 2018-04-16, 01:40   Link #2257
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Did 02 ever feel remorse for killing >100 people? No

Even now her "regret" is only because Hiro was revealed as the original darling

Evil

See those horns? That's a symbolism for Evil
Evil is cool and Good is dumb. That's why Zeon was so popular.

Those horns are cute. Cute
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Old 2018-04-16, 01:56   Link #2258
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Nooooooooooo people are already too corrupted by evil 02
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Old 2018-04-16, 01:59   Link #2259
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Did 02 ever feel remorse for killing >100 people? No

Even now her "regret" is only because Hiro was revealed as the original darling

Evil

See those horns? That's a symbolism for Evil

At such a young age, after causing death of 100+ stamens and being a witness to countless deaths on the battlefield, it's only natural that ppl death has stop be important for her.
Also, because of her isolation from other children she sees other parasites as ,,they'' not ,,we'' which makes it much easier for her to akcept APE's point of view that all parasites
are substitutable tools.

That's why I do not think we can call her evil. As for me, she is just simply emotionally unstable

Returning to the 14th episode

The action in this episode was reall painful to watch.
Virtually everything can be called a series of understatements and unlucky coincidences.

I feel bad for 02 however, I do not think Ichigo deserve so much hatred.
To better understand this, I suggest you watch the episodes 11-12-14 excluding 13 which is exist only in Hiro x 02 heads.
From this perspective, Ichigo's and the rest team behavior will much more understandable
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Old 2018-04-16, 02:38   Link #2260
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02 still hot when she turn into Yandere

Whoa , people post hate comment on Darling Twitter , the whole drama will be solved in a few couple of episode and yet people can't control theirs rage .
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