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[IppoTsuko]

Originally Posted by I_am_Kami

Some dude pointed this out to me.

What do you think?

Hey! That was what one of my youtube friend pointed out to me but I chose not to believe it as I think humans cannot be Archangels of God, but who knows, later in the series they might just become Aleister's "Archangels" o.o

Also, Raphael is an archangel of healing and Tsuchimikado also have a healing ability xD

[Nayrael]

The "One that cleanses God and exorcises the Devil" and "The one who surpasses the God" also fits Jesus tough if you split God into his three aspects: Father (God), Son of God and the Holy Spirit (part of God ).

"One that cleanses God" - calming down the aspect of the Father so his wrath doesn't punish the humanity. God who was wrathful and prideful in Old Testament becomes forgiving and caring thus you can say that he was cleansed

"One that exorcises the Devil" - by taking on himself all of humanity's sins and dying for humanity's sins, Devil is exorcised from souls of humans (for the time being). I general, Devil is evil that resides in souls of humans and makes them commit sin. Do notice that Touma does the same to most of villains: after preaching and punching them, they turn or start turning good thus you can say Devil was exorcised from them

"The one who surpasses the God" - Son of God surpasses the God in (some?) Christian beliefs. While they are considered to be one being, it is the Son of God who is primarily worshiped by Christians and the one whose teaching they claim to follow

Roman Catholic Church turning against Touma mirrors Jewish Temple turning against Jesus, both for religious and non-religious reasons.


Do mind that this post was written by a Roman Catholic and that a lot of my beliefs are from what I have been thought by RCC in my town. RCC has many different interpretations of the Bible itself, yet alone other Christian faiths.

I chose not to believe it as I think humans cannot be Archangels of God, but who know

They can symbolise them tough.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Teh_Ping

Worse, imagine a Kamijou Touma who's like the dorm supervisor.

Ahh normal humans truly are amazing things...

Dorm Supervisor: Double attack points when attacking any [Tokiwadai] students. Triple attack points when attacking a [Tokiwadai] student of your Dorm. At the end of every battle phase, minus 1000 love points.

...But yeah, Touma either needs to improve his reaction time, or his Imagine Breaker needs to be stronger.

[Kuroi Hadou]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

or his Imagine Breaker needs to be stronger.

Wait, I'm sorry. You don't think Imagine Breaker is impossibly broken already?

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Kuroi Hadou

Wait, I'm sorry. You don't think Imagine Breaker is impossibly broken already?

Is it? I never got that impression

Though I can't wait to see him crush Innocantis(sp?) with one wave when he fights Stiyl to get back Index- I'm getting carried away I know...

Though you know want I realistically do want to see? Touma grabbing spells and redirecting them back.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by Flere821

Touma would probably be killed by the Knight Leader if it's 1v1 as of Vol17... in NT, who knows if he has got some kind of powerup that can match him later on?

That time before NT, Acqua tried to cut his arm off, but first gave him a chance after crushing him.

If Acqua would tried to cut his arm first, then the same event with Fiamma would have been triggered.
Touma is mainly known because of his right hand, so people like Izzard will try to rid off that problem without taking in account the baaaaad consequences of their actions .

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Though you know want I realistically do want to see? Touma grabbing spells and redirecting them back.

I think IB then should be weaker or with an amazing control, but I think that functionality seems to be independent of Touma's will.

Originally Posted by Nayrael

The "One that cleanses God and exorcises the Devil" and "The one who surpasses the God" also fits Jesus tough if you split God into his three aspects: Father (God), Son of God and the Holy Spirit (part of God ).

"One that cleanses God" - calming down the aspect of the Father so his wrath doesn't punish the humanity. God who was wrathful and prideful in Old Testament becomes forgiving and caring thus you can say that he was cleansed

"One that exorcises the Devil" - by taking on himself all of humanity's sins and dying for humanity's sins, Devil is exorcised from souls of humans (for the time being). I general, Devil is evil that resides in souls of humans and makes them commit sin. Do notice that Touma does the same to most of villains: after preaching and punching them, they turn or start turning good thus you can say Devil was exorcised from them
"The one who surpasses the God" - Son of God surpasses the God in (some?) Christian beliefs. While they are considered to be one being, it is the Son of God who is primarily worshiped by Christians and the one whose teaching they claim to follow

Roman Catholic Church turning against Touma mirrors Jewish Temple turning against Jesus, both for religious and non-religious reasons.

That one applies very well to this line:

Though he only has one hand, Fiamma still shook his head.

“… But, it no longer matters what happens to that.”

Incredibly, an expression of abnormal passion that has long disappeared from his face has arisen once more.

The demon which possessed him has left.

“Seeing your expression, I feel what I have done before was a total waste of time. Probably at that time I had that same expression. At the end, someone that will truly save the world would not have that expression. … At that time, that place, that person will stand at somewhere where no-one else can reach.”

Fiamma has the feeling that he can understand somewhat what he is lacking.

[TouMAN]

are there any announcements about NT Vol.2 ?

[I_am_Kami]

Originally Posted by TouMAN

are there any announcements about NT Vol.2 ?

no, you'll know when its out.

[Kenju of the Right]

Acqua's entrance was just so fucking epic

[Okashira]

Originally Posted by TouMAN

are there any announcements about NT Vol.2 ?

It's too soon. I think that it's for about 2 months since the first volume came out? The previews that we usually read about the novel are from the official dengeki bunko site and are usually shown only for about a month before the novel pops up and include the proper release date and some details along that preview. Considering that the novels come out with a for about 4 months of separating distance (4 or a little bit more) it's just too soon to know anything and we probably have for about a full month left of not knowing anything.

[Phibrizzo]

Aqua is just epic, I would have love for kanzaki to wake up during the fight and release just how powerless she is vs a not playing around Aqua.

[I_am_Kami]

Originally Posted by Phibrizzo

Aqua is just epic, I would have love for kanzaki to wake up during the fight and release just how powerless she is vs a not playing around Aqua.

u can be cruel to a lot of characters can't you

[Kuroi Hadou]

Originally Posted by I_am_Kami

u can be cruel to a lot of characters can't you

I'd like to see Touma beaten within an inch of his pathetic life; does that qualify as cruel?

[Kenju of the Right]

Cruel is what gives our good pal Phibrizzo life! Without cruelness there would be no Phibrizzo. Without Phibrizzo there would be no cruelness. It's what keeps the world in balance.

Originally Posted by Kuroi Hadou

I'd like to see Touma beaten within an inch of his pathetic life; does that qualify as cruel?

And then stand up and kick that person's ass

[I_am_Kami]

Originally Posted by Kenju of the Right

Cruel is what gives our good pal Phibrizzo life! Without cruelness there would be no Phibrizzo. Without Phibrizzo there would be no cruelness. It's what keeps the world in balance.



And then stand up and kick that person's ass

Him getting beat up brings balance to the series. Having a character like him beat everyone with a punch can get annoying so once in a while the author brought some change to it and it worked out perfectly or near perfectly.

To me Index>Madoka

[Kuroi Hadou]

Oh no. God no. We're not bring Madoka into any thread not specifically related to that show. I'm tired of discussing it in places where it has no damn bearing whatsoever.

[I_am_Kami]

Originally Posted by Kuroi Hadou

Oh no. God no. We're not bring Madoka into any thread not specifically related to that show. I'm tired of discussing it in places where it has no damn bearing whatsoever.

Then lets not. But im loling since its the new way to troll now. But we won't mention it here.

[Kuroi Hadou]

Did anyone else thoroughly enjoy reading Acqua steamroll everyone in Vol. 16?

[I_am_Kami]

Originally Posted by Kuroi Hadou

Did anyone else thoroughly enjoy reading Acqua steamroll everyone in Vol. 16?

I just loved when he beat down Touma....and Kanzaki..... and the Amakusas.....

[Kenju of the Right]

Tch, I loved it when Touma came out and saved everyone by stopping Acqua's attack