2009-10-30, 21:27 | Link #121 |
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Blackbeard has been foreshadowed to be one of the last, if not the final villain in the story. With that being said, there's a very strong chance he'll surpass Whitebeard later on as the story progresses. In Shonen manga, the newer generations tend to have higher potential than those that came before them.
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2009-10-31, 02:41 | Link #122 |
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-sigh- if only he had the ability of Mantra(does anyone other than me still remember this ability?) he could have prevented it possibly
oh well like some of you said his death will allow the story to move forward i was surprised by this move from squad someone who was trusted but it shows you cant trust someone who claims to be a ally yet appear weaker than you because they may just be out to get you obviously. |
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That being said, this is, obviously, not a death blow. It'll probably be the blow that ends his life, but it is not the blow that will end the battle. |
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2009-10-31, 09:07 | Link #124 | |
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If he's not the final villain, then Blackbeard will only be Yonkou-level IMO. |
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2009-10-31, 10:46 | Link #127 |
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Yeah. Doflamingo's victims usually try to put up some kind of resistance when they're being controlled. They'll also tell their comrades to get away from them (like the 13th Division Commander) or tell Doflamingo to stop it (like Sarquiss and that Vice Admiral from the Shichibukai replacement meeting). Squado looked perfectly relaxed and as if he wasn't forced to do anything.
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2009-10-31, 10:56 | Link #129 | |
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2009-10-31, 13:24 | Link #130 |
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I still have the feeling that Squado stabbed Whitebeard entirely of his own volition. There was definitely nothing so far that suggests that Doflamingo was controlling him, and frankly I think it would have a much bigger impact on the story if one of Whitebeard's most trusted allies turned out to be a traitor......
And on that note, I mentioned this before, but I think there's a good chance that Squado may have coated that sword of his with poison. I guess you can say it's sort of a failsafe in case Whitebeard doesn't die from the stab would alone (which he most likely won't). Besides, it would only make sense for a spider-themed pirate to attack with poison, would it not? |
2009-10-31, 13:47 | Link #131 |
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I think that some people are just having a hard time accepting that the all-mighty Whitebeard can be wounded. He was totally caught off guard and therefore did not see that sword thrust coming. That's all there is to it. The only thing that's remaining is an explanation for Squado's actions next chapter.
The moral of the message in this chapter was, it doesn't matter how omnipotent you are, for if you let your guard down even for a second on a battlefield, it could potentially cost you your life. One must always be at the ready in case of such contingencies.
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2009-10-31, 16:46 | Link #133 |
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i feel this chapter was both awesome and dissapointing
awesome for all the stuff going on but dissapointed that we wont see whitebeard going at it wound free from the get go, w/e he does now i dont feel itll show his true potential but o wel nvm |
2009-11-01, 02:02 | Link #135 | |
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It seems plausible that Robin would return by the Revolutionaries assistance. Providing they want to do so. Who knows what's going to happen with Franky after he found Vegapunks old lab. I'm thinking some major upgrades there. I'm not sure if Nami would ride of a cloud. Those kinds of clouds can't remain their density at lower altitudes. The way the Cloud Dials Usopp got wouldn't work at sea level. I do remember that Nami still has the Vivre Card from Lola's mother, but is she even on that side of the Grand Line? This does mean that Nami and Luffy are the only people in the crew that carry two different Vivre cards. About Sanji, can he ever show his face again after he wore a dress and pranced around??? Heaven help him if Zoro ever got hold of that bit of intel. Right now, Luffy is the closest to his destination. Marineford isn't too far off of Shabondy Archipelago. I'm really curious if the reunion will be everyone at once, or will they have to go and find a few at a time? I don't see how Rayleigh could find everyone, by himself. The Vivre Cards that were handed out only lead to him, since they were most likely made from his fingernails. Luffy is easy enough to find right now. I'm unsure if the news of Luffy was also broadcasted, and if any of the crew are watching?
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2009-11-01, 09:27 | Link #136 | |
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The fact he never moved from his ship, standing still, letting his men getting crushed without reacting, adds to this theory. So maybe WB was already dying from unknown disease. And this betrayal was in fact a secret order from WB himself. He prefers to die by the sword on the battlefield, than an old dying man in front of the enemy. Like a pirate version of Benkei. A awful traitror being in fact a most loyal friend would totally be Oda's style.
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Also, given everything we know about Whitebeards values and behaviour, it would be extremely out of character for him, if he were to lead his forces into a fight without being able to take the toughest opponents himself. Thats just the nakama-thinking he, Shanks, Luffy and many more value so much: you gotta be able to protect your nakama, especially as the captain. No, i think Whitebeard saw himself as in proper condition to do some garp/sengoku/admiral-ass-kicking. |
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ch552 p18-19 ch553 p3 ch556 p5 ch562 p16-17 But I recognize it's hard to determine if it's an indication of a decreasing life force or a dark state of mind. I'm not sure it's a wise move to stay behind while your troops are being crushed by stronger opponents. In this blitzkrieg type of battle, speed is determinant. You need to strike quick and strong, and get away with your objective as quickly as you came in. Not really fancy for the shounen ways (you take down one enemy at a time with sheers numbers), but more realistic. Continuing on the Benkei analogy, WB holds a naginata, is tall, share a fatherlike relationship with Ace/Yoshitsune and is facing an allout battle. I can't help but feel a strong look alike with Benkei's rumored last battle.
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2009-11-01, 15:39 | Link #139 | |
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Really, until the kuma's showed up, Whitebeard's side was doing alright... Jimbei and iva were covering two shicibukai's, Marco can counter an admiral, Vista could clash with Mihawk, and so forth... sure joze was in a bit of trouble, but they weren't by any means "being crushed"... it was only when the Kuma clones showed up did things start looking grim... and THAT's when Whitebeard decided to join the fight... and get betrayed... |
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