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Kyuu · 2012-05-19, 14:38

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Originally Posted by RegalStar

I didn't make any assumptions about hand value.

Yea. It's too difficult reading discards to make determinations on opponent hand values.

If there's one thing I noticed, you were more concerned about defending about the player to the left -- and I would be too. Better to lose points to someone else, ya? Though, personally: I hate getting "ron'd", even if it is a 1-han hand.

In any event...

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegalStar

is there something I could've done to try to deal into the right hand side without risking dealing into the dealer instead?

To answer your question: I suppose play tiles dangerous to the player on the right, by which, you actually did that for 3 turns: the 9-sou, Xia, 5-pin, and 3-pin.

And as always, hindsight is a bitch.

Especially for this scenario, this is one of those: "Holy #%!#$, WTF" situations.

RegalStar · 2012-05-20, 23:01

Spoiler for really wide picture:

I know I was taking a risk but it still sucks. =(

Kyuu · 2012-05-21, 16:08

Oh. Not as bad as this; what I did here is outright stupid. In fact, I fell into the player to the right by ron. Afterwards, I left the game in facepalming embarrassment.

NOTE: The dora.

Spoiler:

What's my excuse?

Spoiler:

That's an entire mangan right in my discards.

RegalStar · 2012-05-22, 11:41

Spoiler for I don't know why people do this:

Kyuu · 2012-05-22, 15:17

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Originally Posted by RegalStar

I don't know why people do this

I have a feeling: that player was still under "offensive" mode failing to account 2-called dragons; and seeing that there's already 1-chun on the board, by which: "Gee, that person can't possibly have 2 already" (LOL)

To be fair. Via live tile, I played into someone's dansaigen - despite knowing that it was a freakin' bad idea. He already had the other chun and hatsu called. I hold my haku tile, and I rememeber my words, "Oh, I know I shouldn't do this, but I'm dropping it anyways!"

Next thing I hear is "Ron", and I high-five the dude on his dansaigen.

To make things even, I cockblocked his kokushi last week. XD Ah, the fun things I do with this game.

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But now, try this example: Go to East 3:

http://tenhou.net/0/?log=2012050716g...-85fac029&tw=0

RegalStar · 2012-05-25, 01:15

Spoiler for I am a huge ****ing idiot:

erneiz_hyde · 2012-05-25, 01:31

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Originally Posted by RegalStar

Spoiler for I am a huge ****ing idiot:

Hello, I've been playing mahjong for a while, but only recently did I choose to learn about it more in depth. So enlighten me, how did you screw up there? Aside from having a single tile wait. Also cmiiw, you'd have toitoi, chanta, yakuhai x3, and at least 4 dora should you get that 1sou, right? Wouldn't you be 1 han short for sanbaiman, or did I miss something?

Kyuu · 2012-05-25, 01:54

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Originally Posted by erneiz_hyde

Hello, I've been playing mahjong for a while, but only recently did I choose to learn about it more in depth. So enlighten me, how did you screw up there? Aside from having a single tile wait. Also cmiiw, you'd have toitoi, chanta, yakuhai x3, and at least 4 dora should you get that 1sou, right? Wouldn't you be 1 han short for sanbaiman, or did I miss something?

Abortive Draw.

The hand ended as soon as that 4th kan was called. And I'm going to assume no Rinshan. So, that wiped out his potentially large hand.

erneiz_hyde · 2012-05-25, 02:44

Wow, so there's an abortive draw for too many kans. I only know the one where every players discard the same tile and where every player declares riichi.

Now I see why Regal screwed up there

Kyuu · 2012-05-25, 02:54

Yep. Four kans is the limit, unless they're all called by one player for Suu Kansu. Even then, a fifth kan results in Abortive Draw. To be fair, this doesn't happen often.

Finally his hand would have been: Toi Toi, Double Nan (south), Honroto, Hatsu, and Dora 5. Counting that up: 12-han minimum.

Had he not kan'd the 9-wan -- he'd get one more dora off 1-sou, and that'll bring it up to 13.

Oh the pain.

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Also: I called Riichi. What should this person drop?

Spoiler:

Don't mind my points. I was having a crappy game. XD

erneiz_hyde · 2012-05-25, 03:14

Oh right, I forgot to count the 1sou as doras

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Originally Posted by Kyuu

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Also: I called Riichi. What should this person drop?

Spoiler:

Don't mind my points. I was having a crappy game. XD

Hmm, I'd discard that 7man, but I take it that's your wait?

RegalStar · 2012-05-25, 03:24

6-pin, obviously.

EDIT: Actually, 7m. Not only is it suji, but there's only one of it left, so basically the only way to wait on it (in a way that can still ron off people) would be either 68m or 89m, and it's a jigoku wait as well. I'm not playing against Hisa am I?

Kyuu · 2012-05-25, 13:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by erneiz_hyde

Oh right, I forgot to count the 1sou as doras

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Hmm, I'd discard that 7man, but I take it that's your wait?

Quote:

Originally Posted by RegalStar

6-pin, obviously.

EDIT: Actually, 7m. Not only is it suji, but there's only one of it left, so basically the only way to wait on it (in a way that can still ron off people) would be either 68m or 89m, and it's a jigoku wait as well. I'm not playing against Hisa am I?

Spoiler:

When I selected that wait... I looked to "my left", and thought: "Oh, it'd be so frikkin' nice to get Chankan here".

Kyuu · 2012-05-25, 20:45

The existence of this video means...

... I don't have to make one myself.

Though, if you know of any people interested in learning, this may be a good place for them to learn.

RegalStar · 2012-05-26, 09:26

Spoiler for lol:

erneiz_hyde · 2012-05-26, 15:50

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Originally Posted by RegalStar

Spoiler for lol:

That's closer to a Renhou actually, if you're not a dealer, you would've scored a yakuman there

Oh, wait, you tsumo'd so that's not Renhou. It's closer to a Chihou then. But since you're dealer, then yes, it's like mini Tenhou

RegalStar · 2012-05-26, 19:46

Spoiler for Riichi tsumo, toitoi... right?:

kona~chan · 2012-05-26, 20:37

^
can't help to quoting mako quotes
"why did they do yakuman i loved"
i just can't remmember my last yakuman on tenhou

don't know if anyone has posted this but

YouTube

https://youtu.be/X0ftCbrJSZs

Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

dafuq did i just watch

erneiz_hyde · 2012-05-26, 21:34

So I recently play with some of my friends, and this would be my highest hand ever in tenhou......if only it was finished.

Spoiler:

When I shared that in a social site, my other friend posted this (he's nanaya):

Spoiler:

Kyuu · 2012-05-28, 13:23

Ugh. OK. I was playing with my mahjong group last night. One hand, I managed to develop a San Anko, and I was tenpai early on:

2-man, 3-4-5 (red) pin, 1-1-1 sou, 9-9-9 man, and kan of hatsu.

Eventually, I noticed a pair of 3-pin in my discard. So the hand coulda been:

2-man, 3-3-3 pin, 1-1-1 sou, 9-9-9 man, and kan of hatsu.

To make things worse, I changed the 2-main wait to a 2-5 pin wait. Only to draw a 2-man the turn after. Of course, another player wins the hand. In short, I could have drawn a double yakuman but got nothing.

Oh the errors of clinging to tenpai. Of course, it is a risk to break tenpai.

2012-05-21, 16:08	Link #1343
Kyuu =^^= Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 42° 10' N (Latitude) 87° 33' W (Longitude) Age: 45	Oh. Not as bad as this; what I did here is outright stupid. In fact, I fell into the player to the right by ron. Afterwards, I left the game in facepalming embarrassment. NOTE: The dora. Spoiler: What's my excuse? Spoiler: I was watching some sexy Ben-to (eps 8) again. Without paying attention to the dora, I dropped my single chun 'cause it was isolated. Automatic reaction. That's an entire mangan right in my discards. __________________ Japanese Mahjong Group \| Currently Watching List \| Click on this - I dare you.

2012-05-22, 11:41	Link #1344
RegalStar Mishaguji-sama Join Date: Oct 2010	Spoiler for I don't know why people do this: But hey, it was south 3, and I was trailing by a large number of points. I ain't complaining too loudly.

2012-05-25, 01:15	Link #1346
RegalStar Mishaguji-sama Join Date: Oct 2010	Spoiler for I am a huge **ing idiot: TL;DR: I ****ed up my own sanbaiman because I can't count kans.

2012-05-25, 02:44	Link #1349
erneiz_hyde 18782+18782=37564 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: InterWebs	Wow, so there's an abortive draw for too many kans. I only know the one where every players discard the same tile and where every player declares riichi. Now I see why Regal screwed up there __________________

2012-05-25, 02:54	Link #1350
Kyuu =^^= Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 42° 10' N (Latitude) 87° 33' W (Longitude) Age: 45	Yep. Four kans is the limit, unless they're all called by one player for Suu Kansu. Even then, a fifth kan results in Abortive Draw. To be fair, this doesn't happen often. Finally his hand would have been: Toi Toi, Double Nan (south), Honroto, Hatsu, and Dora 5. Counting that up: 12-han minimum. Had he not kan'd the 9-wan -- he'd get one more dora off 1-sou, and that'll bring it up to 13. Oh the pain. === Also: I called Riichi. What should this person drop? Spoiler: Don't mind my points. I was having a crappy game. XD __________________ Japanese Mahjong Group \| Currently Watching List \| Click on this - I dare you. Last edited by Kyuu; 2012-05-25 at 03:09.

2012-05-20, 23:01	Link #1342
RegalStar Mishaguji-sama Join Date: Oct 2010	Spoiler for really wide picture: I know I was taking a risk but it still sucks. =(

2012-05-25, 03:24	Link #1352
RegalStar Mishaguji-sama Join Date: Oct 2010	6-pin, obviously. EDIT: Actually, 7m. Not only is it suji, but there's only one of it left, so basically the only way to wait on it (in a way that can still ron off people) would be either 68m or 89m, and it's a jigoku wait as well. I'm not playing against Hisa am I? Last edited by RegalStar; 2012-05-25 at 11:10.

2012-05-25, 20:45	Link #1354
Kyuu =^^= Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 42° 10' N (Latitude) 87° 33' W (Longitude) Age: 45	The existence of this video means... <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/mh0brmqq4sk">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> ... I don't have to make one myself. Though, if you know of any people interested in learning, this may be a good place for them to learn. __________________ Japanese Mahjong Group \| Currently Watching List \| Click on this - I dare you.

2012-05-26, 09:26	Link #1355
RegalStar Mishaguji-sama Join Date: Oct 2010	Spoiler for lol: It's like a chibi Tenhou!

2012-05-26, 19:46	Link #1357
RegalStar Mishaguji-sama Join Date: Oct 2010	Spoiler for Riichi tsumo, toitoi... right?: Last edited by RegalStar; 2012-05-27 at 02:28.

2012-05-26, 20:37	Link #1358
kona~chan ヘタレ Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: [Zettai Ryouiki]	^ can't help to quoting mako quotes "why did they do yakuman i loved" i just can't remmember my last yakuman on tenhou don't know if anyone has posted this but YouTube https://youtu.be/X0ftCbrJSZs Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? dafuq did i just watch

2012-05-26, 21:34	Link #1359
erneiz_hyde 18782+18782=37564 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: InterWebs	So I recently play with some of my friends, and this would be my highest hand ever in tenhou......if only it was finished. Spoiler: When I shared that in a social site, my other friend posted this (he's nanaya): Spoiler: __________________

2012-05-28, 13:23	Link #1360
Kyuu =^^= Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 42° 10' N (Latitude) 87° 33' W (Longitude) Age: 45	Ugh. OK. I was playing with my mahjong group last night. One hand, I managed to develop a San Anko, and I was tenpai early on: 2-man, 3-4-5 (red) pin, 1-1-1 sou, 9-9-9 man, and kan of hatsu. Eventually, I noticed a pair of 3-pin in my discard. So the hand coulda been: 2-man, 3-3-3 pin, 1-1-1 sou, 9-9-9 man, and kan of hatsu. To make things worse, I changed the 2-main wait to a 2-5 pin wait. Only to draw a 2-man the turn after. Of course, another player wins the hand. In short, I could have drawn a double yakuman but got nothing. Oh the errors of clinging to tenpai. Of course, it is a risk to break tenpai. __________________ Japanese Mahjong Group \| Currently Watching List \| Click on this - I dare you.