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germanturkey · 2016-05-02, 00:29

i'm meh about Jon coming back. everyone knew it was going to happen. i'm so much more hyped for the flashbacks we're going to get through Bran.

Chosen_Hero · 2016-05-02, 00:36

Spoiler for Season 6 episode 2:

All in all not a bad episode.

MrTerrorist · 2016-05-02, 02:37

We all knew it but it was good to see it.
Also love the flashback of a young Ned and his sister Lyanna.

Wargumm1i · 2016-05-02, 11:38

I wonder what Bran will be like after his big "change"? Superpowers? Become OP in the art of magic?

james0246 · 2016-05-02, 12:47

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Originally Posted by germanturkey

i'm meh about Jon coming back. everyone knew it was going to happen. i'm so much more hyped for the flashbacks we're going to get through Bran.

Kind of agree. Jon coming back was expected (though I was hoping somewhat for Jon to come back as a Whitewalker - there could be some interesting tension if Jon is somehow now connected to the Whitewalkers, or at least some otherworldly force)). Still, the Bran flashbacks was interesting; They aren't moving the plot along quite yet, but the sheer volume of information is enlightening and fun.

My biggest moment of excitement, though, was the reintroduction of Pyke and the Greyjoys. This has been a loose thread for years now, and for so much to occur in the story all at once, it was a lot of fun. (It should be noted how well the episode's structure works the Greyjoy storyline into Melisandre's loss of faith - her biggest moment of triumph, her curse against the Kings, comes to fruition just as she has lost faith in her powers and her God (which leads me to wonder if her powers weren't diluted somehow while her curse against the 5 Kings was taking its time to be fully enacted.).)

Guardian Enzo · 2016-05-02, 12:57

Whatever else you think of his return, it was inevitable because there's a mountain of evidence Jon is crucial to the final resolution of the story (and GoT has quite distinctly left all those hints in). We'll see how they play it - I quite liked Beric Dondarrion, actually, and Buffy certainly showed this premise can be executed for great dramatic effect.

sunset · 2016-05-02, 13:07

Spoiler:

sayde · 2016-05-02, 19:51

Can't believe she actually pulled that off without a catch! Or maybe not. There's got to be a catch. Right? I mean I was almost certain that if he was coming back, it'd be at the expense of someone else since the last time we saw someone attempt a resurrection ritual it required a sacrifice...and still didn't end well.

I feel like Daenerys would be pretty salty about this. And Drogo would probably roll over in his grave. lol

Anyways, I'm excited to see where Jon and the Stark children go from here. Lastly, I have a feeling Ramsay's father foreshadowed how Ramsay is going to die. And god, I hope he's right.

velvet nightmare · 2016-05-02, 19:59

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Originally Posted by sayde

Can't believe she actually pulled that off without a catch! Or maybe not. There's got to be a catch. Right? I mean I was almost certain that if he was coming back, it'd be at the expense of someone else since the last time we saw someone attempt a resurrection ritual it required a sacrifice...and still didn't end well.

I feel like Daenerys would be pretty salty about this. And Drogo would probably roll over in his grave. lol

Anyways, I'm excited to see where Jon and the Stark children go from here. Lastly, I have a feeling Ramsay's father foreshadowed how Ramsay is going to die. And god, I hope he's right.

there's precedence for lord of light type revival.

in previous season beric of the brotherhood without banners was revived at the cost of his memories

whether or not this applies to jon, we will see, because the ritual was different altogether

sayde · 2016-05-02, 21:44

^^Point taken. I forgot about that.

MrTerrorist · 2016-05-03, 02:16

I wonder if Balon's death was the catalyst that allowed Jon to be resurrected?
After all, Melisandre did curse the others Kings during the War.

Galaxian · 2016-05-03, 13:58

The only surprise in here is how quickly he was brought back to life. Honestly, I was expecting for it to happen halfway through the season.

GDB · 2016-05-03, 14:27

They really needed to do it as quickly as possible. It made sense not to do it in episode 1 so as to create the potential he might actually be dead. But in reality, everyone knew he'd be coming back. And leaving him for too long would not only stagnate that storyline, but also break immersion for why he didn't become a White Walker. It really had to be done in this episode or the next episode, and they opted to not pretend that the viewers were tricked.

Jaden · 2016-05-04, 15:20

There won't necessarily be any cost for the resurrection, perhaps Melisandre just has incredible power when it comes to making sure her visions come true. Though it seems like she's lost her faith because she misinterpreted those visions.

The show is still good but I did like the earlier seasons more. The writing was more about just building the world and characters, but now that it's heading towards some conclusion, it's lost some of its nuance.

Maxulous · 2016-05-05, 23:59

Why didn't Melisandre just trim his pubic hair? Everyone knows a man's life force is in his nuts.

Sheba · 2016-05-06, 02:28

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Originally Posted by Galaxian

The only surprise in here is how quickly he was brought back to life. Honestly, I was expecting for it to happen halfway through the season.

Melissandre was the elephant in the room. Dragging the matter of Jon Snow's possible resurrection would have been insulting to the intelligence of the audience.

GDB · 2016-05-06, 12:30

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Originally Posted by Maxulous

Why didn't Melisandre just trim his pubic hair? Everyone knows a man's life force is in his nuts.

Meta reason: Kit had cut his hair after the previous season to make people believe that John Snow was dead. He's been wearing extensions thus far this season. Those extensions were what got cut. They're basically providing an in-universe reason for why he'll have shorter hair, which he only has as a means of trying to sell the "John is dead" thing.

Galaxian · 2016-05-06, 14:16

YouTube

https://youtu.be/y685gVGRQ98

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That last scene...

Maxulous · 2016-05-07, 07:39

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Originally Posted by GDB

Meta reason: Kit had cut his hair after the previous season to make people believe that John Snow was dead. He's been wearing extensions thus far this season. Those extensions were what got cut. They're basically providing an in-universe reason for why he'll have shorter hair, which he only has as a means of trying to sell the "John is dead" thing.

It ended up being quite debilitating to that scene.

MrTerrorist · 2016-05-09, 02:01

Spoiler for S6E03:

2016-05-02, 00:29	Link #1801
germanturkey Udon-YAAAAAAAA Join Date: Jan 2008 Age: 35	i'm meh about Jon coming back. everyone knew it was going to happen. i'm so much more hyped for the flashbacks we're going to get through Bran. __________________ Aria is the best series EVER. Rewatch Origination with me. Blessed are those who listen to headphones, for they listen to the sound of heaven.

2016-05-02, 00:36	Link #1802
Chosen_Hero Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014	Spoiler for Season 6 episode 2: Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssssssssssssss!:bo w::hy per-^v^: All in all not a bad episode. __________________

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MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	We all knew it but it was good to see it. Also love the flashback of a young Ned and his sister Lyanna. __________________

2016-05-02, 13:07	Link #1807
sunset Twilight Impersonator Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: a zoo	Spoiler: Good God, nobody will be able to stand the swagger on the Red Woman now....

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MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	I wonder if Balon's death was the catalyst that allowed Jon to be resurrected? After all, Melisandre did curse the others Kings during the War. __________________

2016-05-02, 11:38	Link #1804
Wargumm1i Hentai Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Iceland	I wonder what Bran will be like after his big "change"? Superpowers? Become OP in the art of magic?

2016-05-02, 19:51	Link #1808
sayde Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Can't believe she actually pulled that off without a catch! Or maybe not. There's got to be a catch. Right? I mean I was almost certain that if he was coming back, it'd be at the expense of someone else since the last time we saw someone attempt a resurrection ritual it required a sacrifice...and still didn't end well. I feel like Daenerys would be pretty salty about this. And Drogo would probably roll over in his grave. lol Anyways, I'm excited to see where Jon and the Stark children go from here. Lastly, I have a feeling Ramsay's father foreshadowed how Ramsay is going to die. And god, I hope he's right.

2016-05-02, 21:44	Link #1810
sayde Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	^^Point taken. I forgot about that.

2016-05-03, 13:58	Link #1812
Galaxian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	The only surprise in here is how quickly he was brought back to life. Honestly, I was expecting for it to happen halfway through the season.

2016-05-03, 14:27	Link #1813
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	They really needed to do it as quickly as possible. It made sense not to do it in episode 1 so as to create the potential he might actually be dead. But in reality, everyone knew he'd be coming back. And leaving him for too long would not only stagnate that storyline, but also break immersion for why he didn't become a White Walker. It really had to be done in this episode or the next episode, and they opted to not pretend that the viewers were tricked.

2016-05-04, 15:20	Link #1814
Jaden Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	There won't necessarily be any cost for the resurrection, perhaps Melisandre just has incredible power when it comes to making sure her visions come true. Though it seems like she's lost her faith because she misinterpreted those visions. The show is still good but I did like the earlier seasons more. The writing was more about just building the world and characters, but now that it's heading towards some conclusion, it's lost some of its nuance. __________________

2016-05-05, 23:59	Link #1815
Maxulous mono no aware Join Date: Jun 2014	Why didn't Melisandre just trim his pubic hair? Everyone knows a man's life force is in his nuts. Last edited by Maxulous; 2016-05-06 at 00:52.

2016-05-06, 14:16	Link #1818
Galaxian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	YouTube https://youtu.be/y685gVGRQ98 Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? That last scene...

2016-05-09, 02:01	Link #1820
MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	Spoiler for S6E03: Ser Arthur is a badass. The guy was able to kill almost all of Ned's party and was owning Ned before Howland stopped that. And Nightwatch Munstinners are given a painful execution; death by hanging. Qyburn, despite being a Mad Scientist, is a nice guy and is friends with Varys's little birds. __________________