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Because he saw Nezuko refusing to eat Tanjiro even though she was in a circumstance where she should have done so.
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For example, if someone who you trust and respect tell you that the Earth is flat, do you believe him?
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2019-09-01, 12:59 | Link #483 |
Les Pays Bass
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Full version of From the Edge is finally out. I definitely like it more than Gurenge!
-- These Hashiras may be good demon slayers, but they're so narrow-minded. Even after their master sanctioned the Tanjiro/Nezuko situation, even told them that Tanjiro made contact with Kibutsuji and explained how the two siblings are potentially significant to taking him down, they're still adamant about the rules. Like, come on. |
2019-09-01, 13:20 | Link #484 | |
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Tomioka let Nezuko go because she protected Tanjirou rather than eating him, despite being injured and newly turned, and thus starving. That Nezuko's love over her brother won over her demonic instinct made him curious and compassionate. There's more, but that'll be covered way later if the anime continues. |
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2019-09-01, 13:34 | Link #486 |
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I'm honestly baffled how you've managed to come to that conclusion given how clear Scarface made his intentions: He flat out stated that he intended to prove that Nezuko will attack a human just like any demon. I mean it is vindictive to stab her as well and I know the author doesn't explain things well but is it really that much of stretch to assume that the stabbing is done deliberately to goad her into attacking him?
But even if he wasn't doing it for a reason then I still wouldn't understand what your point is. Does there have to be a reason when hate and dehumanization are involved? Are you disagreeing with my point about dehumanization or agreeing with it?
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2019-09-01, 14:24 | Link #487 | |
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Tomioka only began to have some modicum of faith in Nezuko when he saw her prove herself in front of his eyes. Even then, she is one of very few exceptions, not the rule. |
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2019-09-01, 16:02 | Link #490 | |
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These hashiras have seen many shits caused by demons. They saw demons turned on their friends and families. Sanemi is trying to prove that Nezuko is the same as the rest. |
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2019-09-01, 20:02 | Link #492 |
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I think what Anh_Minh is trying to get across is that while he understands why the Demon Slayers are cautious and skeptical of Nezuko given the nature of their work. He doesn't approve of them acting in away he preserves as needless cruel.
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No, the way they treated Nezuko was not necessary, but did anyone say it was? This isn't a peaceful society punishing a criminal - this is a group in a war for survival with personal investment in the outcome. |
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If he can prove that she's violent, then Nezuko no longer as any moral protection. Quote:
Second, yes it would actually prove they are dangerous because they are still retaliating with violence. In your words, "Understandable but not excusable." Third, it's not just the act of violence, as considering their lifestyle they are already aware that humans can be violent too. What Sanemi wanted to see was Nezuko drinking blood, which will prove that she is not human and is something entirely different. Quote:
Considering Sanemi doesn't believe Nezuko to be an exception, she does not deserve to be treated kindly. If anything, he shouldn't be judged for being cruel - but foolish instead. Let's say that he was right and Nezuko attacks him and drinks his blood: why risk setting her free to attack other people in the village? She wasn't even restrained like Tanjiro was. |
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2019-09-02, 03:15 | Link #497 | |
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Even if he couldn't, there's no way she could escape the rest of them. |
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2019-09-02, 04:56 | Link #498 | ||
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He wants to make Tanjiro realize what he believes to be the truth "demons are deceptive, and having affection or attachment for them, is nonsense" It's more than just, let's torture an evil demon, than, let's make this newbie realize the cruel truth of the world. Probably Sanemi had an hard life, so seeing someone being so positive, and naive from his point of view, upsets him personally, so he thinks he needs to correct that attitude of Tanjiro. I'm more curious about the snake hashira, is he sympatizing with Sanemi, or does he have other reasons for supporting him? The snake pillar looked specifically opposed to Tomioka, so maybe he doesn't care as much about the nezuko issue, nor sanemi, rather he cares about having an excuse to damage the water breath lineage. (tanjiro + tomioka) Quote:
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2019-09-02, 05:30 | Link #499 | ||
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Every living being has a survival instinct, with the basic run or fight when facing a danger, but if you corner a living being and remove them the option of running away, they will fight, as that's their only option out of danger. That's basic survival instinct, and it has no moral value. If anything, it's less about reacting, but about identifying other humans as a danger. An evil demon, would see any human as either, food if they're weak, a danger if they are strong. While an hypothetical good demon, in the eyes of the hashiras, would not see other humans as food, nor sense strong humans as danger. But Sanemi going about it by stabbing Nezuko, leaves little room for her not to see him as "danger", so Sanemi made his own point moot. That's the most moronic thing he did, he made the humans=danger an invalid point to be verified, because of his actions. Though, with the offering of blood he is making a valid point over humans=food. |
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2019-09-02, 08:22 | Link #500 |
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I only know it's on Japanese iTunes Store and a couple other platforms for purchase. I don't know about streaming
https://lisa.lnk.to/PHyO4 |
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