(L) Infinite Stratos - Light Novel/Manga Discussion

[HasuMasu]

perhaps, he noticed a blurred reflection of his own-self into her eyes, and thought: "who the hell is that? aah, whatever... I feel strangely attracted to it.."

perhaps you're not too far off

considering

he seemed to be more attracted to charles

rather than

charlotte

[zeroknight03]

The whole "Houki being an S rank like the first pilot Chifuyu" seems to be a pretty big plot point/mystery that would lead to the revealing of some of the secrets of IS so it'd be fair to not expect it to get resolved quickly. Let's give the author a few more volumes to explain on whether Tabane just used magic on Houki to make her potentially one of the best or if Houki was already that way at the start.

Personally, the events are still acceptable since it was just about aptitude. Aptitude entrance exam scores can be easily hacked/rigged and people can have average skill levels (from lack of experience like Houki) while still having a high aptitude (if by aptitude we mean the highest potential level you can reach + ability to improve quickly).

And just to be sure, she was just talking about aptitude right? Because I would agree that it'd be really messed up if Tatenashi was talking about actual skill level (that Houki at that moment in time suddenly became one of the best pilots on par with Tatenashi after a little modification from Tabane).

And out of curiousity, what was the context when Tatenashi said it's impossible for Houki to raise her aptitude from C to an S? I'm sure she can know someone's previous aptitude by looking at the school records but how did she know Houki suddenly became an S at that moment?

Did she just use a scanner which told her so or was it just from a gut feel like "Based on the skills she just showed and how fast she's improving from when I last saw her fight, she has to be at least an S rank"? Was it done just after she showed off her new move or was it done after the battle and Tatenashi's in some computer room examining Houki's data?

[kuroishinigami]

She just use a scanner to do a check after she trained together with Houki. She give her advice to do it because Tatenashi's going to pair up with Houki, and she said that everyone should do a physical check once in a while to make the IS tuning suit the pilot even better.

The context when Tatenashi said it's impossible is because there's never been such a case before. Aptitude is decided from birth, and although it's possible to increase it through training, there's never been a person who manage to go up that many level.

One thing I don't like about this deus ex machina explanation is one deus will lead to another

Houki's not good enough in IS -> change her aptitude to S(already done)
Houki not good enough at long range -> give her new hax long range weapon out of nowhere(already done)
Houki can't break through AIC -> give her new AIC breaking weapon
Houki's not as good as nano-machine using IS -> give her a new nano-machine weapon or nano machine jammer
The reason for all that? A certain genius inventor wants her to have it

I sure as hell wouldn't want to see these kind of power up happen to Houki or Ichika or anyone else in that matter. Give them the potential to grow(already done by giving Houki 4th Gen IS and Ichika a one-hit-kill weapon) and let them grow themselves by thinking how to make use of that potential damn it. Don't hand them the power-up just like that.

Anyway, I'm home already, will do the summary continuation soon.

[justpassingby]

Houki's not good enough in IS -> change her aptitude to S(already done)
She and Rin were the only person to break Silverio Gospel's wings in vol 03 IIRC before it went 2nd Shift

Houki not good enough at long range -> give her new hax long range weapon out of nowhere(already done)
She already has Amadzuki (close range) and Karaware (middle range). Ugachi (long range) was initiated when the computer deemed Houki has reached certain battle experience (may be training battle using those 2 swords included), it doesn't mean she's suddenly good at long range. And every one else has long range, so why not her. Houki only took a Golem's left arm

Houki can't break through AIC -> give her new AIC breaking weapon
Houki's not as good as nano-machine using IS -> give her a new nano-machine weapon or nano machine jammer
I'm too tired too find the pages. So hint?

It perplexes me how you can cut some slack for the author for not explaining the battle sequence (which should be explained in the same book), but mad at him for not explaining the aptitude, where he can do it later.
Also, did you count the number of training that Houki and other students undergo? I don't . Because we can just imagine it and doesn't have to be shown in the book, right

Edit: Let me tell you what I think about this power ups that Houki being getting. It may be Yumizuru last attempt to make Houki looks good, before giving her bad ends. Why do you think her confession attempts always met with failure, and what's with the dream of meeting a prince on a horse? Savvy?

[zeroknight03]

Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

She just use a scanner to do a check after she trained together with Houki. She give her advice to do it because Tatenashi's going to pair up with Houki, and she said that everyone should do a physical check once in a while to make the IS tuning suit the pilot even better.

Why does this sound to me like Houki never even did a check up on herself after she got her entrance exam results? Did we ever get an event where the girls (primarily Houki) had a check up done? Well, it makes sense for her not to go for check ups considering that Houki wasn't even that enthusiastic about using IS since recently.

If Houki hasn't had a check up in between the entrance exam results and Tatenashi's recent discovery, this makes me even more suspicious that the entrance ranking was faked and that she was originally an S rank (of course, just a speculation). If there was a check up in between, then the idea that Tabane modified Houki is more viable.

And thanks for the spoilers. Much appreciated.

[kuroishinigami]

Originally Posted by justpassingby

Houki's not good enough in IS -> change her aptitude to S(already done)
She and Rin were the only person to break Silverio Gospel's wings in vol 03 IIRC before it went 2nd Shift

Yet it was stated in vol 5 that she was the least skillful in piloting IS compared to the other.

Originally Posted by justpassingby

Houki not good enough at long range -> give her new hax long range weapon out of nowhere(already done)
She already has Amadzuki (close range) and Karaware (middle range). Ugachi (long range) was initiated when the computer deemed Houki has reached certain battle experience (may be training battle using those 2 swords included), it doesn't mean she's suddenly good at long range. And every one else has long range, so why not her. Houki only took a Golem's left arm

Again, not a matter of whether she got the weapon or not, but how she got it. Not to mention that the weapon is very strong which make her have great short, middle, and long range weapon.

Originally Posted by justpassingby

Houki can't break through AIC -> give her new AIC breaking weapon
Houki's not as good as nano-machine using IS -> give her a new nano-machine weapon or nano machine jammer
I'm too tired too find the pages. So hint?

This one is just my fear of what the author will do. Not that it will happen for sure.

Originally Posted by justpassingby

It perplexes me how you can cut some slack for the author for not explaining the battle sequence (which should be explained in the same book), but mad at him for not explaining the aptitude, where he can do it later.
Also, did you count the number of training that Houki and other students undergo? I don't . Because we can just imagine it and doesn't have to be shown in the book, right

Author not explaining the battle sequence is a problem with author's approach in storytelling, but sudden increase in ability is a a problem with plot device. In this series we already have a character who already close enough to be called a god in the world(Tabane) so falling into overusing deus ex machina plot device as an explanation for a power-up is very easy for the author to do. I'm not exactly mad at the author(would I still give summary if I was mad at the author ), I just think that once he touches plot device like that, he will be in danger of using it over and over again(think about Bleach and the author's overuse of powering-up through training). Which is why I want this to be resolved sooner than later so at least I know that the author already have an explanation whenever he uses something similar like this.

I'm pretty sure Houki trains a lot(it was even mentioned that she trained with Ichika a lot since she acquired Aka-tsubaki although before she manage to activate Kenran Butou at will it was more or less a draw), but we don't really see the other acquire such power up right? What's more, even one of the character said that it's almost impossible to get that kind of aptitude power up looking at past graduate who I'm sure already trained much more compared to her in less than 1 year, which means unlike the golem event where we're not told of what happened at all, here we get told implicitly instead that normal training is unable to upgrade aptitude like that. If she need to get that hax power-up, it will have to be through a major event or special training that's being told or at least mentioned in the story.

Originally Posted by justpassingby

Edit: Let me tell you what I think about this power ups that Houki being getting. It may be Yumizuru last attempt to make Houki looks good, before giving her bad ends. Why do you think her confession attempts always met with failure, and what's with the dream of meeting a prince on a horse? Savvy?

That's what I first think too. I even think Houki will be the last boss to beat . It's not a matter of Houki for me, it's a matter of the plot device the author use to power her up. Even if Tatenashi(my fav character so far) suddenly get a power-up this way(probably from Russia's military or from the academy's headmaster), I will still complain about it.

Originally Posted by zeroknight03

Why does this sound to me like Houki never even did a check up on herself after she got her entrance exam results? Did we ever get an event where the girls (primarily Houki) had a check up done? Well, it makes sense for her not to go for check ups considering that Houki wasn't even that enthusiastic about using IS since recently.

If Houki hasn't had a check up in between the entrance exam results and Tatenashi's recent discovery, this makes me even more suspicious that the entrance ranking was faked and that she was originally an S rank (of course, just a speculation). If there was a check up in between, then the idea that Tabane modified Houki is more viable.

And thanks for the spoilers. Much appreciated.

It's implied that way. She never bother to renew her physical data it seems.

Anyway, that was just a long rant from me since I invested so much time translating this series and was made disappointed with the latest development. Just think of it as someone who do research for something for so many times and doesn't get the result that he expects I'm really sorry if my point is getting repetitive and annoyed some people, especially justpassingby *bowed*. I enjoyed the debate though . I'm going to hold commenting about my qualms with this series until next vol come out, unless somebody else wants me to(which I doubt)

Now to fulfill my promise, next part of vol 7 summary.

Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

Spoiler for vol 7 chapter 1 summary:

The story continued where it left off last time in vol 6. Ichika was shot, but Laura manage to shield him using her IS AIC ability. Laura was there because she stalked him to find some time alone with Ichika. Anyway, Madoka manage to run away by creating a diversion through throwing Laura's own knife to herself.

The scene change to the next day, where Ichika is having dinner with his harem as usual. The other harem beside Ichika is very surprised knowing Ichika get attacked by Silent Zephyr's pilot, but Ichika doesn't tell the other about Madoka's name. Cecilia once again make use of her wound to get Ichika to fed her by ordering a dish that has to be eaten using chopsticks. Of course, the other harem make some noise, and Chifuyu is angry at them. One interesting happened for Chifuyu end shipper, Chifuyu seems worried seeing Ichika always hang out with the same girls(his harem) and Yamada-sensei seems to notice this and make a comment to Chifuyu. Of course Chifuyu indirectly deny this by asking Yamada-sensei to a combat practice(in other word, if she keep mentioning it, Chifuyu gonna beat Yamada-sensei to a pulp during the practice :P)

After dinner, all his harem followed him to his room since they're worried he's going to get attacked again. Harem antics happen as usual, this time Charlotte get the good mood with Ichika. After they leave, this time Sarashiki onee-chan come to the room. Ichika tried to resist her entering his room, but onee-chan just cut through the door using the water blade. Onee-chan teased Ichika first of course, but then she make a request to Ichika in the end, to make a group pair with her imouto, Kanzashi, without telling imouto that it's a request from onee-chan.

Now we're introduced to her imouto Kanzashi, which seems to be a gloomy person. Imouto-san is Japanese representative candidate, but she hasn't got her personal IS since the lab that's supposed to develop imouto-san's personal IS happened to be the same lab that developed Byaku-shiki, which means the reason she hasn't got her personal IS is partly Ichika's fault(according to onee-chan's logic :P). We also found out that onee-chan and imouto-san doesn't get along well, and onee-chan become strangely reserved when talking about her. Ichika cured onee-chan's reservedness by giving a massage. After hearing that Ichika agreed to take her request, she left and Ichika is left with fixing the door.

Scene change to Madoka. Squall scold her for acting on her own by confronting Ichika. We found out that Madoka's real target is not Ichika, but Chifuyu, but when Squall make fun of Chifuyu by saying that Chifuyu is weak since she doesn't have IS currently, Madoka throws her knife to Squall. Squall also told Madoka to try being prudent till the next mission which will be some time later. In the end, we also see that Madoka hate Chifuyu enough to feel pleasant when hurting her face, which is the same as Chifuyu(foreshadowing on their relation IMO).

Scene change to the school again, this time the news club president, Mayazumi Kaoruko-senpai, ask Ichika and Houki to have an exclusive interview and photo shoot session with her older sister who works as a reporter in an IS related magazine. Houki and Ichika reject the request at first, but Houki has a change of mind after Kaoruko-senpai told them that as a reward for the interview, they will get a free dinner ticket at a high-class restaurant, of course a pair dinner at that. Since this is Houki and Ichika's first time to a photo shoot(although Cecilia already showed Ichika her modeling photo wearing a frilly dress), they were a little nervous. Rin butt in and said she'll show her photo when she do a photo shoot(if you read my vol 6's translation, a representative candidate is kinda like an idol, they're usually get asked to become a model or for a photo shoot). Ichika reject at first since he thought Rin will only wear strange clothes at the photo shoot, but Rin force him to look at her photo and he find out that she looks quite nice with a casual clothes. Of course, Rin get too absorbed showing Ichika her photo and doesn't here the bell ringing, which get her a smack from Chifuyu.

Next scene, Ichika get lent to Kendou-club next, and a lot of members come to the club activity even though they usually attend the club activity. Of course, they try to request for an Ichika-massage, but Ichika reject the request. The other club member find out about the pair dinner that Ichika and Houki get and tease Houki about it.

Spoiler for vol 7 chapter 1 summary continued:

We have our heroine trying to invite Ichika to form a pair team with them. First is Charl. She tried to invite indirectly by inviting him for lunch first, but Ichika just bluntly reject her by saying he has prior engagement. Before Charl can press further, the other girl inside the class led by Nohohon-san(anime watcher might remember her as the girl with long sleeve that cover even the palm of her hand) take Charl away for lunch with them instead since she rarely have lunch with other people beside Ichika and his harem group.

Next is Rin. She confront him on his way to class 4 and directly ask him to form a pair with her. Of course he reject it and said he already promised someone else. At first Rin thought the one he's pairing with is Charlotte, and she force Ichika to tell her who is the one he promised to be his tag partner with so she can force Ichika's partner to change partner with her. Of course, Ichika ran away.

Ichika finally reach class 4 and found imouto-san playing with the hologram projector inside the class. It seems the other class member don't like imouto-san since she's been skipping school from the start and they think the reason imouto-san become a representative candidate and personal IS user is only because of her great onee-chan. So Ichika approached her and ask her to be his partner for the match, which she bluntly reject. Before he can persuade her further by saying that everyone else already have partner, Rin arrived and take Ichika to her class instead. It seems she already make a lunch for Ichika. Ichika refuse eating the lunch at first since he already half-eat the yakisoba bread he bought earlier, but Rin force him by eating his half eaten yakisoba bread instead(while aiming for the indirect kiss :P). After finishing the lunch, Rin once again force him to pair up with her. Of course Ichika refuse again, and he run away to his own class before Rin manage to challenge him into a duel to decide if he will pair up with Rin or not.

Back to his class, this time it's Laura's turn to invite him for a pair. Ichika refused her too, and she partially deployed her IS to attack Ichika. Chifuyu stepped in and stop Laura before she make a mess. When Laura said to Chifuyu that this is a husband-wife quarrel, Chifuyu pull the final weapon on Laura by saying that she doesn't want a sister in law that doesn't know manner like Laura. This make Laura dispirited so much that she can't even return to her chair, so Chifuyu tell Ichika to carry Laura back, which he does by princess-embracing Laura, even with cheering from the other girls inside the class.

Next scene is training between Houki and Ichika. Since Houki can activate Kenran Butou at will right now, she has the upper hand against Ichika. The training ends with Houki's win. Houki thought it's decided that Ichika will pair up with her since she won the match against him(even though she hasn't brought up that topic even once). She met with Cecilia in the dressing room, and it turn out Cecilia has the same thought as Houki(that Ichika will pair up with her even though Cecilia never brought up the topic even once). They both think in their heart that they've got the upper hand in the race for Ichika's heart this time.

Later that night, Houki and Cecilia tried to confirm the pairing matter with Ichika in his room, but Ichika also tell them that he already pair up with someone else. They get violent of course and partly deploy their IS to attack Ichika, but suddenly Chifuyu blow up the door of Ichika's room to stop the 2 of them. Of course, she also punish them by having them running laps in their IS form. Of course they can't fly using their IS, and they can't use any help from the IS' assistance program, so everything in manual. She also scold Ichika for always making fuss every time and tell him to decide which girl she want to stop the fuss.

There's also a small part about how Houki and Cecilia look at each other as rival, but that marks the end of chapter 1

Spoiler for chapter 2 part 1:

Scene opened with imouto-san setting up her IS in maintenance room. She tried to outfit her IS alone instead of asking someone specialized in this. Just as she finished up because she stumbled on something and about to go back to watch some anime, Ichika already wait for her outside and bring a drink for her. He once again ask her to be his partner. Imouto-san asked Ichika why he wants her to be his partner, in which Ichika respond(of course a lie, because he can't tell imouto-san that onee-chan ask him to do it) that he want to see her IS. He got slapped for it and left dumbfounded.

After Ichika returned to his room, he starts to think why imouto-san is mad with him. He thinks that it's because her IS is not completed yet. He then open the academy introduction pamphlet, and we as the reader get told that 2nd and 3rd year can choose specialization class between "Development", "Research", or "Outfitting". For the tournament, everyone can ask for help from the senpais by making a team to help adjust their IS.

Just as he was thinking about that matter, Sarashiki onee-chan visits him again. She bring a cream puff with her as a treat for Ichika. When she sees Ichika holding the pamphlet, she asks if Ichika wants to ask for maintenance help. Ichika said that he actually think about asking for help for imouto-san. Onee-chan said imouto-san probably doesn't want help, because onee-chan also outfit her IS herself, although Tatenashi said that she only able to do it because it was done more than 70% in the first place. She also added that she asked for Kaoruko's and Utsuho's opinion who respectively is 2nd year Maintenance class ace and 3rd year Maintenance class president. Onee-chan then ask how's Ichika progress with imouto-san, which he responds by saying that he got slapped. She teased Ichika by saying maybe he got slapped because he do something ecchi to imouto-san, which of course Ichika denied. She then asked that girls is weak to an aggressive boy. She then left him with that advice, of course not with the final tease. The puff cream earlier was filled with mustard instead of custard.

Next scene turns to imouto-san. It seems the reason she slapped Ichika wasn't because she's mad at him, but because she's not used to being treated nicely. And we found out imouto-san already start falling for Ichika.

Next is the photo shoot time for Ichika and Houki. At first, she's still mad at him about the pairing things, but after Ichika praise her clothes, she starts to go dere on him. When Ichika said that today is cold and suggest to go to a coffee shop on the way, Houki tells him that she will let him hold her hand instead if he feels cold.

They finally meet with Sakurako's sister, Mayuzumi Nagisako. The interview start and the first question asked toward Ichika is what's his thought about being the only boy in a girls school. Ichika answered that with "the number of toilet she can use is little so it's troubling". Nagisako said that Ichika really is "Harem king who has no interest in woman" just like her sister said. Next is Houki's turn. When she's asked bout her sister, Houki's a little upset, but with the reward of pair dinner in front of her, Houki reluctantly answer the question. The interview continued with several more question such as who's stronger between them(Houki quickly answer she is) and even friendly topic such as Tatenashi. The interview is then over and they have to change their clothes for the photo shoot.

Well, that's all for today. Sorry for only continuing a little. Will continue more tomorrow. For people only waiting for the summary, sorry for the long post *bows*

[HasuMasu]

Well, that's all for today. Sorry for only continuing a little. Will continue more tomorrow. For people only waiting for the summary, sorry for the long post *bows*

your summaries rock

much appreciated

on another note

i think the reason i'm not disappointed with the "recent events" is because

i am so obviously a houki fan

it blinds meehh

[justpassingby]

Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

I enjoyed the debate though

It wasn't much a debate though, when your arguments only assume the worst

[n0m@n]

I wouldnt mind if the enemy were powered up to the max, so the battle would be more intense and harder for the main characters. But now it seems like there are no villains who can beat Houki/ on 1 on 1, so it loses the seriousness. Also i thought it was mecha/harem series but now its going to look like mecha/romance since it is focusing on Houki.

[kuroishinigami]

Originally Posted by justpassingby

It wasn't much a debate though, when your arguments only assume the worst

Eh? But wasn't that the point of a debate? to talk about people's different point of view? I was looking on Houki's power up by assuming the worst, but on the battle part I assume the best instead I always give a part of the text to back my point up too right? Or, at least I think so

Anyway, like I said, it was just a rant from the feeling I get after reading about Houki's power-up. Without much thing to go on from the lack of material right now, I won't debate much further I guess when later in the volume Houki keep getting power-up like this, I can just say "Sigh, it's just like what I predicted", and when she doesn't I can always just say "Ooh, looks like I was wrong. I'm glad as a follower of the series though"

[justpassingby]

^
Regarding Houki's upgrades:
- My best: Rigged exam (I bet many people saw this as plausible); Houki is genius in hardworking so that's why she is rewarded;
- My worst: Author needs to tell who's the main heroine, and wants to give her bad/bitter end

- Your best: Nothing
- Your worst: Everything

Regarding the battle
- My best: Nothing; because there was nothing

Your best: Needs to imagine, and give the author the chance
Your worst: Uhh, nothing

[Flere821]

About Houki's aptitude thing, how is the aptitude measured again? Since if it's something to do with the bond between IS personal machine and user, than I have a idea:

Spoiler for idea:

Houki having S aptitude isn't because of how good she is, but is because of Akatsubaki. Kinda like how Ichika isn't the only male in the world that can use a IS because of something innate, but it's because Byakushiki is made from the White Knight and it can be piloted by a male.

ref Vol3 ch4

[FreedmAngl]

@justpassingby cryptic much?

@kuroi yes the authour is giving houki hax power ups and i dun like it either

[Javiersansano]

Originally Posted by Flere821

About Houki's aptitude thing, how is the aptitude measured again? Since if it's something to do with the bond between IS personal machine and user, than I have a idea:

Spoiler for idea:

Houki having S aptitude isn't because of how good she is, but is because of Akatsubaki. Kinda like how Ichika isn't the only male in the world that can use a IS because of something innate, but it's because Byakushiki is made from the White Knight and it can be piloted by a male.

ref Vol3 ch4

Then, you are saying that the IS that was plantd by Tabane in the Entry Exam where the whole mess began, also had the White Knight Core?

Spoiler for about Houki:

Houki is showing her "true" potential.........so far, because of her mental restrictions (bad relationship with Tabane, self-hating because of her indiscriminated use of violence, etc), sh could only do so good as a C class. But slowly, she has been getting rid of those issues, and is finally showing what she has got...............unfortunately, I think that Ichika doesn't fall in the same problem............In other words, he hs to improve through hard work only, and also, by "connecting" more with his IS, so as ti learn how to not WASTE what he's got.........I mean, come on, if using the fold out/ one off all the time consumes your shield all the time, then fight using the solid sword, and in "specific and calculated" strikes, unleash the one - off, you damn moronic........you know what I mean

[justpassingby]

Originally Posted by n0m@n

I wouldnt mind if the enemy were powered up to the max, so the battle would be more intense and harder for the main characters. But now it seems like there are no villains who can beat Houki/ on 1 on 1, so it loses the seriousness. Also i thought it was mecha/harem series but now its going to look like mecha/romance since it is focusing on Houki.

Come again? She probably can sweep unmanned ISes by herself, but I doubt if she can win against Squall, Autumn, Madoka or even Kuu-chan at this time. Although I'm expecting Houki to take her place beside Tabane as her new apprentice and join the Phantom Task (speculation :P, and there need to be Original 7)

Also, one of the reason I pitied Houki is because she has the lamest name (Broom) while her sister is 'Control'.

Just saying...

[Javiersansano]

Is tabane really part of phantom task?

[justpassingby]

Like I said, speculation.

Spoiler for Hotel:

It comes from the event when Squall met Ichika. Ichika couldn't get into the restaurant inside Hotel Theresia because he wore inproper attire, so she bought him a suit and a bouquet of roses to be given to Houki. How did she knew Ichika was there? I'm speculating she has Houki detector or Akatsubaki & Byakushiki radar courtesy of Tabane Tech©

Also, people are making Tabane looks like omnipotent. I'm sure she has her own people and contacts here and there that she can use. She adopted a daughter, also may be for her own agenda (making burnt bread ?)

[kuroishinigami]

Originally Posted by justpassingby

^
Regarding Houki's upgrades:
- My best: Rigged exam (I bet many people saw this as plausible); Houki is genius in hardworking so that's why she is rewarded;
- My worst: Author needs to tell who's the main heroine, and wants to give her bad/bitter end

- Your best: Nothing
- Your worst: Everything

Regarding the battle
- My best: Nothing; because there was nothing

Your best: Needs to imagine, and give the author the chance
Your worst: Uhh, nothing

Well, what can I say, I'm an extremist like that, either think the best or worst possible scenario(usually the worst though, cuz I always think when you already expect the worst, you can no longer get disappointed) . I get where everyone's argument come from and it's not like that thought not crossed my mind before, but like I said, I usually assume the worst so I won't get disappointed when the worst come through

@justpassingby : no hard feeling right? I might seem hard-headed, but all your point is saved inside my mind

Originally Posted by Javiersansano

Is tabane really part of phantom task?

I'm not sure about this one. Tabane can create an IS core right?(already proven by the number of unregistered IS core in the unmanned IS), if it's so, why do phantom task need to do the dangerous task of stealing IS from other country's military(there's the risk of they losing the IS they already own right now). I wouldn't discount the possibility of Tabane helping Phantom Task to further her own agenda though.

Originally Posted by Flere821

About Houki's aptitude thing, how is the aptitude measured again? Since if it's something to do with the bond between IS personal machine and user, than I have a idea:

Spoiler for idea:

Houki having S aptitude isn't because of how good she is, but is because of Akatsubaki. Kinda like how Ichika isn't the only male in the world that can use a IS because of something innate, but it's because Byakushiki is made from the White Knight and it can be piloted by a male.

ref Vol3 ch4

Also not sure about this. From what we told, it's highly possible that aptitude solely depend on the pilot, not what unit she used. This is probably not true though. The reason I make this conclusion is because you scan aptitude like body scan instead of scanning it while riding your IS(how can the system know with which IS your aptitude is supposed to be scanned if you're not riding it currently). But, I still wouldn't discount the possibility of the S aptitude is because of Aka-tsubaki. In fact, it also crossed my mind before that the C aptitude is Houki's aptitude with other IS beside Aka-tsubaki while the S aptitude is only because she's using Aka-tsubaki.

[HasuMasu]

Also i thought it was mecha/harem series but now its going to look like mecha/romance since it is focusing on Houki.

i have no beef with this

*ahemahemcontinueplease*

I wouldn't discount the possibility of Tabane helping Phantom Task to further her own agenda though.

i wouldn't put it past her

[FreedmAngl]

IF tabane was part of PT then that'd be a gigantic twist in the story, shes portrayed a little bit weird but no where im gonna take over the world, and if she were then why'd she give Houki her IS which is compatible with bykaushiki?