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Old 2014-01-25, 20:33   Link #11641
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Old 2014-01-26, 15:09   Link #11642
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Got the T-15 haven't played with it yet, not sure if I will. Anyway EU servers were really laggy today I hope WG gets a third server sooner rather than later.
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Old 2014-01-26, 15:51   Link #11643
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The T-43 is awesome:

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Old 2014-01-26, 16:06   Link #11644
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Got the T-15 haven't played with it yet, not sure if I will. Anyway EU servers were really laggy today I hope WG gets a third server sooner rather than later.

Your lucky I can't even log in now.
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Old 2014-01-27, 06:57   Link #11645
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Urgh, so many T18 seal clubbers in SEA tier 2 games -.-". They were firing with derp guns again

I`m trying to grind a new line. I`m planning to get fully trained crew with fully trained skill once I have a tier 3 tanks in my other alt. I`m doing this slowly.

Downloading the test server now, this should be done tomorrow. I`ll be trying out the T110E4, FV4202, W.T E-100 and T110E5.

If you guys owned an IS-6, any tips on how to play it?
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Old 2014-01-27, 13:35   Link #11646
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The T-43 is awesome:
lol if that was me driving I'd probably resign myself to fate and rush the E-75 the moment I saw him.

Why do all the t7 mediums except the Panther and T20 suck so much?
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Old 2014-01-27, 14:25   Link #11647
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T20 is garbage as well, awful mobility and the DPM is way too low for tier 7. There hasn't been a tier 7 medium tank which I consider worth keeping, same with the tier 8 mediums.
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Old 2014-01-27, 15:40   Link #11648
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Why do all the t7 mediums except the Panther and T20 suck so much?
Don't ask me. I have a 67% winrate and 1400 DPG in my T-43. Perhaps it actually sucks and I was just lucky, or maybe it fits my style. I had some of my best battles ever in that vicious tank.
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Old 2014-01-27, 18:36   Link #11649
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So.... today has been a really bad day to play my alt. Won only 16 out of 46, and my WR dropped by a 0.80%. On other hand, I finally got the AMX 12t, it is so painful that the stock gun can't even pen reliable a Jgpanzer 4 on the back, also all dat disperssion when moving the turret even a little.
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Old 2014-01-27, 23:41   Link #11650
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T20 is garbage as well, awful mobility and the DPM is way too low for tier 7. There hasn't been a tier 7 medium tank which I consider worth keeping, same with the tier 8 mediums.
IMO Tier 7 mediums are in a bad spot. The only "good" one is Comet and T20 is a bit further back. Other ones are either super niche and don't have competition (Panther) or just bad compared to the competition (T-43, VK3002 DB). This is of course, my uninformed and outdated opinion.

Also because the T29 and to a lesser extent IS/Tiger dominate so much, medium tanks seem shafted in comparison. Want to do a serious tier 7 competition? Bring nothing but T29s.
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Old 2014-01-28, 01:02   Link #11651
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IMO Tier 7 mediums are in a bad spot. The only "good" one is Comet and T20 is a bit further back. Other ones are either super niche and don't have competition (Panther) or just bad compared to the competition (T-43, VK3002 DB). This is of course, my uninformed and outdated opinion.
It hasn't changed much so what you said isn't really that outdated. Comet is indeed the best one, but that's still not saying much.

Meanwhile DB still only has the 132 pen L/56(which has an unworkable gold pen of 171), even after losing the status as the "bridge" tank. As a non-optional member of a main medium line, I really believe it should get a different gun.
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Old 2014-01-28, 01:28   Link #11652
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The DB still makes me sad, even though I finished using it before the German medium line was altered to include the second branch.

I've seen people do some interesting work with the Chi-Ri, but so far I haven't seen enough of them, or unlocked one for myself, to form an opinion on it.

Meanwhile, back in seal clubbing land, I still think I made a good trade going from the T18's armor and enclosed cabin to open-topped deathtraps with good view range.

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I've been messing with the T82 at the next tier and so far I'm glad that I initially skipped past it on the US TD line. The 105mm derp was bothersome in the same way of the Alecto and Cruiser II's slow high-arc derpgun, and while I prefer the 57mm anyway, the T82 really must stay waaaaaaaaaay the hell back to make up for its terrible armor and sloppy maneuverability.
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Old 2014-01-28, 03:36   Link #11653
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IMO Tier 7 mediums are in a bad spot. The only "good" one is Comet and T20 is a bit further back. Other ones are either super niche and don't have competition (Panther) or just bad compared to the competition (T-43, VK3002 DB). This is of course, my uninformed and outdated opinion.

Also because the T29 and to a lesser extent IS/Tiger dominate so much, medium tanks seem shafted in comparison. Want to do a serious tier 7 competition? Bring nothing but T29s.
The problem with most tier 7 mediums is that their DPM increase doesn't compensate for the huge HP increase at tier 7. Combining this with as you said the huge popularity of the tier 7 heavies the medium tanks simply lags behind. Tier 8 doesn't improve the situation either.
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Old 2014-01-28, 06:25   Link #11654
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Lol there 50 bounces in my T95 when I was playing in test server. No damaged landed on it

I tried the T110E4 in test server, it suited my play style The T110E5 and T57 Heavy, I havent tried it yet since I have no time.
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Old 2014-01-28, 14:59   Link #11655
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Old 2014-01-29, 10:29   Link #11656
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The problem with most tier 7 mediums is that their DPM increase doesn't compensate for the huge HP increase at tier 7. Combining this with as you said the huge popularity of the tier 7 heavies the medium tanks simply lags behind. Tier 8 doesn't improve the situation either.
Tier 8 mediums get a healthy power boost, in my opinion. It's not so bad as tier 7 where its T29/IS/IS-2/Tiger or bust. Pershing is an awesome tank and perhaps my favorite out of the "classic" tier 8 tanks.

Also the penetration creep is stupid. I remember back when the Panther (1 back then)'s 203 penetration at tier 8 was godlike for a medium and listed as one of its strongest points. Now people whine if a tier 8 medium tank doesn't have 200+ penetration and is "useless" because it can't effortlessly penetrate Ferdinands from the front /oldmanrant
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Old 2014-01-29, 11:06   Link #11657
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Armor isn't as useful as it used to be... even for short periods of time. The AT2 was godly impenetrable for... one patch? Now it's only particularly good against lower-tier tanks with bad pen and people who can't aim.

Agree that the Tier 8 mediums are generally good. It's an interesting mix there of being at least tolerably decent at most jobs (as a medium should be) while also having at least some useful specialization.

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No, really, look at Pants's player stats, they're... nice. Unfortunately this meant that two-thirds of the team followed Pants south, and not one of them came back alive. I stayed near the base and helped clean up the stuff that got through. Our IS got knocked down to 7% within the first thirty seconds of combat, and the Tiger was idling on base... the enemy team didn't even kill off the useless *%#$&*hole (shooting at me instead), the server nuked him at the end of the game.

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So MM screwed around with us a little on this one. The S-51 is actually pretty bad to use on Tier 5 due to the reload time being very long and most Tier 5s usually moving around enough to make aiming difficult. We still won, but the aforementioned reload time meant that I missed a chance to multikill nuke the JP, Panther, and AT2 when they conveniently parked next to each other. (I'd also switched from the thermonuclear premium HE ammo to the normal HE ammo, since I didn't think I'd be making money off of this game shooting at low-tiers.)
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Old 2014-01-29, 11:26   Link #11658
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I'm more impressed by that E-25's XP than anything else.
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Old 2014-01-29, 11:52   Link #11659
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Hmm, should I be grabbing an E-25, then?

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Old 2014-01-29, 12:16   Link #11660
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Hmm, should I be grabbing an E-25, then?

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Hell yes. I think I like the E-25 more than the SU-122-44. The rate of fire is devastating, and the aim time and accuracy are spectacular, helping you zero in to snipe enemies right after braking or turning your hull. Gun control is great, too. A -12/+12 gun arc and 8 degrees of depression on a tiny German TD is a godsend. Equip optics and you get stupid levels of vision control and scouting opportunities despite an apparently meager view range of 396m, because with that insane camo you're still going to outspot almost everything else, and sometimes shoot the tanks you spotted from the open without being spotted (I like the camo net for this). It's even better when you triple-platoon it with blue/purple players and zoom around the battlefield together at 60+ km/h, focus firing on successive targets like a three-barreled machine gun.

Be warned that you need almost 100% gold ammo to do anything, though. It might seem to defeat the money-making purpose of premium tanks, but when I have so much fun in the E-25, I frankly don't give a damn. I go to my T34 to make credits.
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