AnimeSuki Forums

MK-95- · 2013-11-03, 10:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow1296

y'know i am beginning to wonder if lise is the final boss and everything that cain has done till now has been under her orders

Something like that is right up Valvrave's alley. The show has a rep of surprising people, so Lise being the Lasboss would be quite a shocker & would make for a good plot twist...lol

shadow1296 · 2013-11-03, 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangakid95

Something like that is right up Valvrave's alley. The show has a rep of surprising people, so Lise being the Lasboss would be quite a shocker & would make for a good plot twist...lol

it would also be the reason why she disintegrates in the opening, its symbolizes the loss of the innocent light that l-elf sees her in

MK-95- · 2013-11-03, 10:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow1296

it would also be the reason why she disintegrates in the opening, its symbolizes the loss of the innocent light that l-elf sees her in

Oh, good eye. Yea, that would make complete sense. The symbolism of her turning into light & shattering could either be L-Elf's perception of her being crushed or a death flag or maybe even both.

Kurohane · 2013-11-03, 12:02

I doubt Lisselotte is a villain, though of course that's just my opinion. From what I interpreted from that scene is that she gives her support to New JIOR, though she lacks any power to actually aid them.

Irenesharda · 2013-11-03, 14:20

I don't think she's the villain either, simply for the fact that if she was, they wouldn't have revealed it so early. This is her first real appearance that is not in flashback, if they really wanted to make her the ultimate boss, they would have kept her sweet and innocent until later in the show when she would reveal her true colors to have the maximum impact.

The more I think about it, the more I think her appearance her was a red herring, a way for us to begin to suspect her, only for the real truth to be revealed later.

MisaoFan · 2013-11-05, 14:43

Someone from SeventhStyle (the site where I mostly work as a writter for anime reviews) tell me that a show like Valvrave that started to become good only halfway into the series is the sign of "subparity" but I really don't think that's much the issue since season one is introduction season and the second story only started to get in the boot, I'm really starting to feel a bit hesitated about the story direction.

Kurohane · 2013-11-05, 15:07

People are always going to say what they think they know. Let the show itself prove its worth.

zztop · 2013-11-06, 09:15

Does anyone know how popular Valvrave is among the Japanese fandom?

Because shows like Kill la Kill seem to be getting a lot of attention plus super-good fanart, while Valvrave seems to get rather subpar-looking sketches.

Key Board · 2013-11-06, 21:17

Kill La Kill is definitely more popular

Valvrave is.. polarizing

MeggieMay · 2013-11-07, 21:27

Ok, after today's rune info dump, I just wanted to say that this plotline reminds me of Anne McCaffrey's The Crystal Singer books. The idea of doing something that extends your life, while making you lose your memories, was a main plot point in those books. It doesn't work the same way in Valvrave as it does in the books (for one thing, The Crystal Singer isn't about Mecha's

)but it's similar enough to make me think someone might have read the first book at least. McCaffrey was a major SF writer in the 20th Century and her works have been alluded to in other anime I've seen, so I believe she is a known author in Japan. I don't think using a similar theme to these books is a bad thing but I did think it was interesting that they are so similar thematically on this issue

.

Winterson · 2013-11-09, 04:15

So late!

Okay, here I’d say at this point that both Dorsia and Jior both shared the same purpose of harvesting runes as to stashing away livestock or the utilization of modified humans though, these nations had different objectives apparently. The magius are the real evil that governs the world from the shadows, and they toy with humans, using them to satisfy their needs and treating them like nothing but a food. They manipulate and create chaos within human affairs through the use of surrogates or vessels, and this can only happen if a magius ever posses someone and steal that person’s dentity.

This just me, but the temporary partnership with the Dorssian Royalists is ********. That’s a ploy to get their attentions diverted with the given information as to that phantom sub, a maneuver to commence their insidious mission in space. Cain, the kamitsuki… I can’t say he’s a holy spirit, had seen this coming. Well, he knew that someday H-Neun would betray him and L Elf would screw up their plans. As luck would not have it, the new food source this time would be the people from the Sakimori high or probably all people on the moon. Given that the Sakimori student have great aptitude on piloting a Valvrave, they are still humans, much less they are young, healthy and have a lot of good memories together as well tragic ones. They are indeed the best source of runes since Pino also find these modified JIORians delectable unlike L-Elf who kinda makes her feel sick.

Key Board · 2013-11-09, 04:45

I've thought about the possibility of Magius intentionally leaking information

but if they did, I'm sure they would at least secure the rune supplies on board

Winterson · 2013-11-10, 03:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Key Board

I've thought about the possibility of Magius intentionally leaking information

but if they did, I'm sure they would at least secure the rune supplies on board

They probably wouldn't mind losing or sacrificing theirs if they will profit on something much bigger.

Javiersansano · 2013-11-24, 19:48

The new ending just made me think that Haruto *will die*

Spoiler for ending:

Kurohane · 2013-11-24, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Javiersansano

The new ending just made me think that Haruto *will die*

Spoiler for ending:

I consider it synonymous of Haruto and L-elf floating in space without space suits in the OP.

zztop · 2013-12-01, 08:50

How many eps will Season 2 be having? 12?

Because there are still quite a lot of plot threads to tie up in 4 more eps, I think.

Kurohane · 2013-12-01, 13:44

Season 2 will have 12 episodes like the first season. Four episodes are left. With the remaining plot threads, a third season is highly likely.

HighGuard · 2013-12-02, 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurohane

Season 2 will have 12 episodes like the first season. Four episodes are left. With the remaining plot threads, a third season is highly likely.

haha. I came in here wondering that myself. I'm wondering if Valvrave is a 52 episode series after all.

Irenesharda · 2013-12-02, 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarineCorps

haha. I came in here wondering that myself. I'm wondering if Valvrave is a 52 episode series after all.

I don't know about a whole 52, but at least I'm hoping a 36-48. Actually, I'm thinking that they might cut it off here, and then start an actual, official second season (this is really just the second half of the first season) with a new subtitle and a time skip. We'll then be seeing our characters and their fight going on in the future, as well as more about this very long-lasting empire that they built. And if they actually do that, it would be one of the extreme few Sunrise mecha series that has reached this far into space.

Raxnom · 2013-12-02, 12:40

I more of interested what will Haruto do after this Magius stunt. He strikes me the type of guy that is like a fire. Difficult to fire him up, however if done successfully the whole forest could burn. Future will show if Magius successfully did that.

2013-11-03, 12:02	Link #3504
Kurohane Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012	I doubt Lisselotte is a villain, though of course that's just my opinion. From what I interpreted from that scene is that she gives her support to New JIOR, though she lacks any power to actually aid them. __________________

2013-11-03, 14:20	Link #3505
Irenesharda Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Chicago	I don't think she's the villain either, simply for the fact that if she was, they wouldn't have revealed it so early. This is her first real appearance that is not in flashback, if they really wanted to make her the ultimate boss, they would have kept her sweet and innocent until later in the show when she would reveal her true colors to have the maximum impact. The more I think about it, the more I think her appearance her was a red herring, a way for us to begin to suspect her, only for the real truth to be revealed later. __________________ "Someone who cannot forgive lies or secrets, will never trust another." - Major Kyosuke Hyobu

2013-11-05, 15:07	Link #3507
Kurohane Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012	People are always going to say what they think they know. Let the show itself prove its worth. __________________

2013-11-06, 21:17	Link #3509
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	Kill La Kill is definitely more popular Valvrave is.. polarizing __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2013-11-09, 04:15	Link #3511
Winterson Wrath of Her Fury Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Earth's last post of defense	So late! Okay, here I’d say at this point that both Dorsia and Jior both shared the same purpose of harvesting runes as to stashing away livestock or the utilization of modified humans though, these nations had different objectives apparently. The magius are the real evil that governs the world from the shadows, and they toy with humans, using them to satisfy their needs and treating them like nothing but a food. They manipulate and create chaos within human affairs through the use of surrogates or vessels, and this can only happen if a magius ever posses someone and steal that person’s dentity. This just me, but the temporary partnership with the Dorssian Royalists is ******. That’s a ploy to get their attentions diverted with the given information as to that phantom sub, a maneuver to commence their insidious mission in space. Cain, the kamitsuki… I can’t say he’s a holy spirit, had seen this coming. Well, he knew that someday H-Neun would betray him and L Elf would screw up their plans. As luck would not have it, the new food source this time would be the people from the Sakimori high or probably all people on the moon. Given that the Sakimori student have great aptitude on piloting a Valvrave, they are still humans, much less they are young, healthy and have a lot of good memories together as well tragic ones. They are indeed the best source of runes since Pino also find these modified JIORians delectable unlike L-Elf who kinda makes her feel sick.** __________________ WORDS ARE JUST WORDS UNLESS YOU PUT MEANING INTO IT.

2013-11-06, 09:15	Link #3508
zztop Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013	Does anyone know how popular Valvrave is among the Japanese fandom? Because shows like Kill la Kill seem to be getting a lot of attention plus super-good fanart, while Valvrave seems to get rather subpar-looking sketches.

2013-11-07, 21:27	Link #3510
MeggieMay Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004	Ok, after today's rune info dump, I just wanted to say that this plotline reminds me of Anne McCaffrey's The Crystal Singer books. The idea of doing something that extends your life, while making you lose your memories, was a main plot point in those books. It doesn't work the same way in Valvrave as it does in the books (for one thing, The Crystal Singer isn't about Mecha's )but it's similar enough to make me think someone might have read the first book at least. McCaffrey was a major SF writer in the 20th Century and her works have been alluded to in other anime I've seen, so I believe she is a known author in Japan. I don't think using a similar theme to these books is a bad thing but I did think it was interesting that they are so similar thematically on this issue .

2013-11-09, 04:45	Link #3512
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	I've thought about the possibility of Magius intentionally leaking information but if they did, I'm sure they would at least secure the rune supplies on board __________________ "Legitimacy is based on three things. First of all, the people who are asked to obey authority have to feel like they have a voice—that if they speak up, they will be heard. Second, the law has to be predictable. There has to be a reasonable expectation that the rules tomorrow are going to be roughly the same as the rules today. And third, the authority has to be fair. It can’t treat one group differently from another.” Malcolm Gladwell

2013-11-24, 19:48	Link #3514
Javiersansano Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Chile	The new ending just made me think that Haruto will die Spoiler for ending: but, as L-Elf only has vengeance and "make her dream true" as motivators, maybe Haruto will endup hijacking his body permanently, after "evolving" and making a body unnecessary. The "Majesty" kid that Rukino and the STUCO President were taking care off in one of the many Flash forward might not necessarly be a Dorssia Royalty... Hell, he might be Haruto x Shoko kid, and with the permanent bodyjacking of L-Elf's Body, it might make sense that the kid resembles L-Elf

2013-12-01, 08:50	Link #3516
zztop Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013	How many eps will Season 2 be having? 12? Because there are still quite a lot of plot threads to tie up in 4 more eps, I think.

2013-12-01, 13:44	Link #3517
Kurohane Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012	Season 2 will have 12 episodes like the first season. Four episodes are left. With the remaining plot threads, a third season is highly likely. __________________

2013-12-02, 12:40	Link #3520
Raxnom 気疲れ Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Baltics Age: 30	I more of interested what will Haruto do after this Magius stunt. He strikes me the type of guy that is like a fire. Difficult to fire him up, however if done successfully the whole forest could burn. Future will show if Magius successfully did that. __________________ "In peace Vigilance. In war Victory. In death Sacrifice."