2011-02-16, 15:44 | Link #3021 |
Blissfully Ignorant
Join Date: May 2009
Location: London, UK
Age: 36
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I have a bit of a weird relationship with my religion. I consider myself a Roman Catholic but at the same time, I don't always agree with the decisions or policies of the Vatican and don't really go to church as frequently as I should. If you wanted to be technical about it, I guess I'm not particularly devout given that my motivations for remaining with the Church are respect for my upbringing and culture, and because the scripture, symbolism, and impact on western society all fascinate me. I have this thing about cathedrals, for example. They're just so...cool. At the same time I disagree on issues like abortion (people have free will for a reason, perhaps it would be more constructive to work towards a world where abortions are unnecessary), birth control (ties into the above), euthanasia and other such issues. Huge fan of separation of church and state, freedom for all kinds of opinions, even those that I disagree with, y'know, all that fun secular stuff.
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2011-02-16, 20:42 | Link #3022 | |
PolyPerson!
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Northern VA
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Walking into a place of worship is no different (for those not adhering to the faith) than walking into the grocery store, IMO; I have a fondness for the old churches in DC, and used to go to work early to meander around and visit in them. Seeing as I never burst into flame, and also attended my now ex bf's Easter service with his Catholic family, that's that. I think nothing of going into a church for moral support for a friend, or a wedding, or funeral or whatever. Their faith and way of life isn't mine, and vice versa, but that's OK; it doesn't prevent us from supporting each other, even if that means sitting through a 3 or 4 hour Catholic church service and leaving my Baphomet at home
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2011-02-17, 13:19 | Link #3023 |
Charlotte`s Knight
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Mostly earth, and off course beside Charlotte-tan`s side
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Well, to be honest, i don`t have any religion. But it doesn`t mean that I`m atheist, because I`m believe there is a God, and why I don`t have religion? It`s a troublesome for me I think.
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2011-02-17, 22:41 | Link #3026 |
Dictadere~!
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: On the front lines, fighting for inderpendence.
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Existential Infinitism.
Haak, Deism is the belief that God created the laws of our universe and let it run itself. Just because Shion says he/she doesn't "do" religion doesn't mean that he/she's Deist.
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2011-02-18, 04:42 | Link #3028 |
Observer.
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: My bed. You have no idea...
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Well Haruhiism of course lmao
But if we are talking realistically I dont have a religion. My parents never put me in one nor have they ever talked about it to me. I dont know why but it was probably to let me choose for myself, or at least thats what my friend said to me. So the question remains do I believe in a God? I dont really believe there is a God, with everything I've seen a God existing just doesn't make sense to me. EDIT : I deleted a lot of stuff I said when I was emotional lol But my original point remains <3 |
2011-02-18, 18:13 | Link #3030 | ||
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: New Zealand
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2011-02-18, 21:09 | Link #3032 |
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physics hasn't gone as far as to explain why the universe exists, not beyong the big bang theory. (so what was BEFORE the big bang and WHY and HOW?) then there is the quantum thing, where the world exists only as long as its perceived by someone. then there is hinduism, which says that the world is an illusion, and only after death we can reunite with the one thing that is not illusionary - atman. the person asked a good question. "why existence exists?". think about it. why should anything exist at all? why can't it not ? why should it?
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2011-02-18, 22:47 | Link #3033 |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
Age: 66
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Physics is about "how things happen". "why" is a metaphysical question that depends on the baggage you brought with you to the observation.
Time is an aspect of spacetime and not extricable as a separate property. Asking what happened "before" the Big Bang is somewhat like asking "what is North of the North Pole?" or "where is the 91st latitude?". But this is the religion thread so that's as far as I'm going to go with that.
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2011-02-18, 22:53 | Link #3034 |
Juanita/Kiteless
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: New England
Age: 40
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Well, it is interesting to think what it was like before the big bang. The universe as we know, is that all there is to reality? I think not. Heck, the big bang could have been one of very many.
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2011-02-19, 00:28 | Link #3035 | |
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and sure as heck, scientists would love to find out what was before the big bang. its just that so far their theories are boring. like - there were particles, they collided - bang! its actually one of the things that is supposed to prove the existance of god. when u come to an end, when you can't answer "where did this come from?" or "what made this phenomenon happen?", you come to god. because he is eternal blah blah you know the rest. its just a theory i like...
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2011-02-19, 00:37 | Link #3036 | |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: New Zealand
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Now what? We have our "God" but what else can we say about it, other than it had the power to bring the known universe into existence? We can't infer anything about its nature, not even that it continued to exist after doing its job: maybe the Big Bang was to God as a supernova is to a dying star? We certainly can't get from First Cause to "God loves you and takes a personal interest in your life unless of course you're homosexual or watch anime" (or, to be fair, that God is invisble, pink, and suspiciously unicorn-shaped).
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2011-02-19, 00:42 | Link #3037 |
Dictadere~!
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: On the front lines, fighting for inderpendence.
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The fact that there are several worshiping religions with completely different stories across every continent but Antarctica only serves to prove that none of us are right.
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2011-02-19, 00:53 | Link #3038 | |
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2011-02-19, 01:18 | Link #3039 | |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
Age: 66
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2011-02-19, 01:35 | Link #3040 | |
I don't give a damn, dude
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In Despair
Age: 38
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