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Old 2020-11-16, 23:31   Link #1121
Cosmic Eagle
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New era for cancer vaccination might spring from this since now big industry will finally be willing to adopt en masse nanocarrier delivered payload systems. BioNTech's original goals were cancer therapy after all.

The adenoviral vector side from Gamaleya and Oxford might also see some new applications in future
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Old 2020-11-17, 11:18   Link #1122
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How the heck did though than it could be the case?

BUt then again, malaria was once used as a treatment against syphilis...
What I meant to say is to take care, not because we are under a pandemic means other seasonal diseases have disappeared (or that you can only get one infectious disease at a time).
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Old 2020-11-17, 20:53   Link #1123
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What I meant to say is to take care, not because we are under a pandemic means other seasonal diseases have disappeared (or that you can only get one infectious disease at a time).
Sorry, I never though of the dengue as a seasonal disease, only as a mosquito-born one.

Oddlly enough, I just finished to read a old roman (The Betrothed) and its description of the plague than struck Milan made me think than our anti-maskers's idiocy is not a modern thing.
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Old 2020-11-18, 09:51   Link #1124
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our anti-maskers's idiocy is not a modern thing.
Masks were controversial during the 1918-1919 pandemic as well.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/u...ests-1918.html
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Old 2020-11-20, 11:43   Link #1125
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12 days ago from Pfizer: Our vaccine is over 90% effective.

4 days ago from Moderna: Ours is 94,5% effective.

2 days ago from Pfizer: Final analysis shows that ours is 95% effective.

how long until we're at 100% ?
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Old 2020-11-20, 12:16   Link #1126
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how long until we're at 100% ?
How long until "after the vaccine has been applied worldwide, it has been discovered as a side effect that recipients are turned into zombies" >_<
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Old 2020-11-20, 21:40   Link #1127
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unsurprisingly, Don Jr tested positive for covid
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Old 2020-11-30, 18:51   Link #1128
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101-year-old Maria Orsingher survived Corona three times

https://www.de24.news/en/2020/11/101...ree-times.html

Nope, they don't mean the beer Any younguns here want to bet her record? >_<
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Old 2020-11-30, 20:12   Link #1129
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Will she go for nine Coronas?
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Old 2020-12-01, 12:00   Link #1130
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I went to the pharmacy to look for some vitamin b3 (niacin) and got by mistake vitamin d3 (my mask and face shield in a street with high noise level due to cars were at fault). We are getting plenty of vitamin D out of walks in the sun, but the climate suddenly got colder (so we have to cover up) and found this just published study:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-77093-z

Vitamin D deficiency markedly increases the chance of having severe disease after infection with SARS Cov-2. The intensity of inflammatory response is also higher in vitamin D deficient COVID-19 patients. This all translates to increase morbidity and mortality in COVID-19 patients who are deficient in vitamin D. Keeping the current COVID-19 pandemic in view authors recommend administration of vitamin D supplements to population at risk for COVID-19.

So no, it wont prevent you from getting infected with the disease, but it might prevent you from dying from it and imo that is as good as it gets until we get most people vaccinated. imo medical personnel should get this on their daily diet.
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Old 2020-12-02, 04:42   Link #1131
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55145696

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The UK has become the first country in the world to approve the Pfizer/BioNTech coronavirus vaccine for widespread use.

British regulator, the MHRA, says the jab, which offers up to 95% protection against Covid-19 illness, is safe for rollout next week.

Immunisations could start within days for those who need it the most, such as elderly, vulnerable patients.

The UK has already ordered 40m doses - enough to vaccinate 20m people.

Around 10m doses should be available soon, with the first 800,000 arriving in the UK in the coming days.
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Old 2020-12-02, 17:21   Link #1132
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And of course the Tory government can't resist politicizing this in a ridiculous way again.

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In a series of media appearances on Wednesday morning, the UK health secretary, Matt Hancock, erroneously claimed that emergency authorisation had been possible “because of Brexit”, contrasting the UK approach with the “pace of the Europeans, who are moving a little bit more slowly”.

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Alok Sharma, the UK business secretary, claimed the authorisation was a British success story. “In years to come, we will remember this moment as the day the UK led humanity’s charge against this disease,” he said.
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Old 2020-12-03, 03:35   Link #1133
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And of course the Tory government can't resist politicizing this in a ridiculous way again.
Fuck them, EU Health Care System is not unified, everyone doing things on they own for years. If I were English I would vote those nuts out without a second thought, nothing good will come with kind of mentality on the top.
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Old 2020-12-07, 09:40   Link #1134
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Long a Holdout From Covid-19 Restrictions, Sweden Ends Its Pandemic Experiment

https://www.wsj.com/articles/long-a-...nt-11607261658

So where are all those people that hailed sweden as an example to follow?
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Old 2020-12-09, 22:17   Link #1135
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Ask the anti-China camp...

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https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/investiga...cine-1.5223851

Anyway, this one's a black eye for the Canadian Army. Was hoping to enlist after my Masters in the Reserves, assuming I can move back.
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Old 2020-12-15, 14:17   Link #1136
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I've got a bit of a trivial question. Those vaccines, are they frozen solid and then melted before injection, or are they in a solvent that stays liquid at -70°C?
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Old 2020-12-15, 18:27   Link #1137
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AFAIK they melt and can even survive at rom temperature for some time, so yeah, not only you need a special fridge, you need time for each dose to reach room temperature.

AFAIK injecting you with a liquid at -70C can't be good for human health.

Of course, this I heard on some newsfeed, any proper infodump from a health professional would be appreciated.
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Old 2020-12-15, 21:56   Link #1138
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The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines come with synthetic liposome structures, which resemble the envelope of a virus. That's to promote uptake by cells and give a better immune reaction.

There is no aqueous solvent in the ingredient list, though maybe once warmed up, they are diluted with something for easier handling. So I'd guess they have a milky consistency. When frozen, it could be like a powder or a cream.

They're also loaded with sugar and salts for cryoprotection and pH buffering.
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Old 2020-12-16, 01:14   Link #1139
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The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines come with synthetic liposome structures, which resemble the envelope of a virus. That's to promote uptake by cells and give a better immune reaction.

There is no aqueous solvent in the ingredient list, though maybe once warmed up, they are diluted with something for easier handling. So I'd guess they have a milky consistency. When frozen, it could be like a powder or a cream.

They're also loaded with sugar and salts for cryoprotection and pH buffering.
Thanks.

(A frozen cream loaded with sugar and salt? That's not a description I'd have guessed pointed to a vaccine.)
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Old 2020-12-16, 01:47   Link #1140
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How long until "after the vaccine has been applied worldwide, it has been discovered as a side effect that recipients are turned into zombies" >_<
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