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EthernalRain · 2011-11-25, 22:39

@ Eratas: So each of the protagonists has a certain theme keeping them from moving on:

Ichika - Redemption

Kyuukai - Honor

Irish - Vengance

And until they overcome these things, they won't be able to move on, right?

How do you think Ichika would redeem himself in the future, and move on? Same about Irish, and Kyuukai?

I'm betting the final battle has a big revelations moment.

ZeroXSEED · 2011-11-25, 22:44

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Originally Posted by demino_hellsin

What kind of data are we talking about?

We're talking about a machine who's comprised of billions of nanomachine.

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EDIT: It just occured to me. Isn't the AIC derived from the IS PIC? and all IS have PIC? If I follow this train of thought then I can have another source for AIA?

Yes, but you can use the reason that it's purely USA's invention, not stolen from other country. It makes much more sense than having them observe from combat data, like saying USA can copy a MiG or Sukhoi based on various engagement.

Eratas123 · 2011-11-25, 22:51

@ Rain - The first one would be the destruction of their main tools (Byaku shiki, Reapers sonata and Skull suit) which is the main thing binding them.

The most important one is the LI's though. So far, they've been living life following their ideals and how to do them. Their romantic partner proves to be just as important as those flawed viewpoints and they're willing to let go of their obsession in order to be happy with them.

The final battle and the moments leading up to it are the parts that they see what's more important to them: Following their flawed ideals or living for themselves and being happy. Irish's case is regaining his will to live and fear of death since he doesn't want to lose his connections while Ichika's is knowing that his friends want to see him for who he is, not the hero he aants himself to be.

Do you have a suggestion for Kyuukai?

ZeroXSEED · 2011-11-25, 22:53

Eras, who's gonna be Ichika's final girl?

Eratas123 · 2011-11-25, 22:56

@ Zero - That'll depend on where the plot goes, any suggestions?

ZeroXSEED · 2011-11-25, 22:57

Not Charlotte, that's my only suggestion, but then again... that'll make Shadow unpopular to certain part of the fandom....

Eratas123 · 2011-11-25, 23:00

@ Zero - I'm making a balances harem setup so all the girls have an equal chance. Hell, it could be Kanzashi for all I know.

blitz1/2 · 2011-11-25, 23:07

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Originally Posted by Eratas123

@ Zero - I'm making a balances harem setup so all the girls have an equal chance. Hell, it could be Kanzashi for all I know.

chifuyu is the true route girl.

HasuMasu · 2011-11-25, 23:08

On the subject of breasts a few pages back, it's not at all impossible to achieve Charlotte's size at that age, I know 14 year old girls who are much shorter than the cast but manage to get close to that size.

Not Houki or Tatenashi's though, that's a bit...

Eratas123 · 2011-11-25, 23:09

@ Blitz - I'm keeping her as an option, Ichika really isn't her brother in the traditional sense.

@ Rain - No suggestions for Kyuukai's revelation?

@ Box - Why do you think Irish calls her a cow? It's pretty accurate for him.

EthernalRain · 2011-11-25, 23:19

@ Eratas: I've got two ideas, drafted up for the end of HotM. You could use them.

First one, after the final battle and Laura graduates:

Kyuukai takes Laura to meet his father. Basically, visit his father's grave, having never set foot there for the last 3 years. He's a man now, 20 years old. He talks about his life over the past three years, explaining everything he's felt, the people he's met, the experiences he shared. And he introduces Laura. He tells everything he feels about her, everything they've done to gether, tells him how much he loves her, how much she means to him. And after all's said and done...

He presents Laura with an engagement ring.

She says yes.

Second one, before the final battle:

Kyuukai's getting ready to go fight. After packing up, and having his night with Laura, he's left with Tabane. They talk, they say goodbye. She leaves with Koyomi. Laura visits him, they talk. Selvaria enters the room, lingering in the corner without them noticing. She listens in to what he says to her daughter (if their relationship is the same as HotM). He proposes. She accepts. And her daughter tells him one shocking thing.

Spoiler for Spoilers! WARNING! SPOILERS!:

Kyuukai's revelation happens in both. He realizes what he has isn't worth risking on a gamble. So after the final battle, he's stepping down. And he's going to live his new life.

No more battles, no more pain.

But then again, he realizes. It was all worth it to get him where he is now. I'm personally planning to use the second one as the ending.

Eratas123 · 2011-11-25, 23:24

@ Rain - I'll use the grave scene then. He'll realize that no matter how much heroics he does, it won't help Laura any if he ends up as a cold body underground so he makes the last operation the final one before moving on with his life and telling his dad goodbye.

I have to meet my friends, so I'll be gone for about an hour or so. See you later/tom (depending if you're still awake)

ZeroXSEED · 2011-11-25, 23:40

@ Rain

Does PT use specific type of I.S. for their duplicate unit or just common type?

demino_hellsin · 2011-11-25, 23:41

@zero: Can I just say that the AIA is inspired from the Scwarz Regen's AIC?

ZeroXSEED · 2011-11-25, 23:44

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Originally Posted by demino_hellsin

@zero: Can I just say that the AIA is inspired from the Scwarz Regen's AIC?

Or designed specifically by USA to counter it.

MeisterBabylon · 2011-11-25, 23:44

~~~IS-Type Magazine~~~

The DSN Copernicus was a special ship built by Prof Thongudompen to compliment the Vandam Joaquim and the other MPIS which were being brought in to the Foundation. It was designed to be multi-role, combining submarine, carrier, gunship, and close ground support. This complexity proved to be its downfall, as by the time the Professor completed it, the Caliphate had been all but crushed. Its only role during the campaign against terror was helping ragged DART forces chase down the last of the nuclear devices launched by Imam Arizallah.

Being made almost entirely of IS-derived technology, the Copernicus was to be transferred to the ISA after the war, where further refinement of the ship was to be undertaken. However, the fleet escorting it was ambushed by an unnamed battle group which intel believe provided the Caliphate with their monstrous Chastity Engines. The entire DART task force was sunk within minutes. To prevent the Copernicus from falling in to enemy hands, the mortally wounded Prof sunk his ship together with his new Vandam I, taking with him to the bottom of the Pacific.

The ship is said to resemble a "flying dwarf torso". The bridge and sensor mast form the "head" which is sunk into the "chest" behind a pair of battleship guns. If one would take mecha shoulders, mount 3 guns on the top of each, then fold it such that the veniers point backwards, that forms the port and starboard artillery sections. Numerous smaller AA guns dot the hull of these sections, providing 360 degree bullet shield coverage. The "backpack" is the long fuselage stretching backwards with a flat top for the flight deck. The "pelvis" houses the main levitation and propulsion systems. It cannot land, but instead splashes down and berths like a ship.

If it helps, imagine the Macross Quarter stripped of the BASTER-L, BASTER-R, Macross weapons, arms and legs, leaving just the torso, then modify the back such that it becomes a flight deck. This gives a rough idea of what it looks like.

The deck layout is based on the Silvius, which can be found here: http://www.lastexile-fam.com/mecha.html

demino_hellsin · 2011-11-25, 23:45

I could say that... but the rules tell me no... I have to rewrite my logic circuits if I made such a statement

ZeroXSEED · 2011-11-25, 23:48

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Originally Posted by demino_hellsin

I could say that... but the rules tell me no... I have to rewrite my logic circuits if I made such a statement

Well then I can't help, maybe Meister could help you?

Anyway Meister, do you know how A.I.A. (Active Inertial Amplifier) would work in I.S.-verse?

Also @ Rain, my question.

EthernalRain · 2011-11-25, 23:56

@ Eratas: I'm not so sure, actually. I think the grunts or the basic troops in PT use common type, mass produced IS.

But the special operatives, such as Squall and Autumn use Personal IS.

ZeroXSEED · 2011-11-25, 23:58

^ Hahaha, so like Uchigane, Rafael, and the unnamed MPIS unit then?

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Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Rain - The first one would be the destruction of their main tools (Byaku shiki, Reapers sonata and Skull suit) which is the main thing binding them. The most important one is the LI's though. So far, they've been living life following their ideals and how to do them. Their romantic partner proves to be just as important as those flawed viewpoints and they're willing to let go of their obsession in order to be happy with them. The final battle and the moments leading up to it are the parts that they see what's more important to them: Following their flawed ideals or living for themselves and being happy. Irish's case is regaining his will to live and fear of death since he doesn't want to lose his connections while Ichika's is knowing that his friends want to see him for who he is, not the hero he aants himself to be. Do you have a suggestion for Kyuukai? __________________

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ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Eras, who's gonna be Ichika's final girl? __________________

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Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Zero - That'll depend on where the plot goes, any suggestions? __________________

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ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Not Charlotte, that's my only suggestion, but then again... that'll make Shadow unpopular to certain part of the fandom.... __________________

2011-11-25, 23:00	Link #9587
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Zero - I'm making a balances harem setup so all the girls have an equal chance. Hell, it could be Kanzashi for all I know. __________________

2011-11-25, 22:39	Link #9581
EthernalRain Head of FRACTURE R&D Join Date: Oct 2011	@ Eratas: So each of the protagonists has a certain theme keeping them from moving on: Ichika - Redemption Kyuukai - Honor Irish - Vengance And until they overcome these things, they won't be able to move on, right? How do you think Ichika would redeem himself in the future, and move on? Same about Irish, and Kyuukai? I'm betting the final battle has a big revelations moment.

2011-11-25, 23:08	Link #9589
HasuMasu Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Middle Way	On the subject of breasts a few pages back, it's not at all impossible to achieve Charlotte's size at that age, I know 14 year old girls who are much shorter than the cast but manage to get close to that size. Not Houki or Tatenashi's though, that's a bit... __________________

2011-11-25, 23:09	Link #9590
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Blitz - I'm keeping her as an option, Ichika really isn't her brother in the traditional sense. @ Rain - No suggestions for Kyuukai's revelation? @ Box - Why do you think Irish calls her a cow? It's pretty accurate for him. __________________

2011-11-25, 23:19	Link #9591
EthernalRain Head of FRACTURE R&D Join Date: Oct 2011	@ Eratas: I've got two ideas, drafted up for the end of HotM. You could use them. First one, after the final battle and Laura graduates: Kyuukai takes Laura to meet his father. Basically, visit his father's grave, having never set foot there for the last 3 years. He's a man now, 20 years old. He talks about his life over the past three years, explaining everything he's felt, the people he's met, the experiences he shared. And he introduces Laura. He tells everything he feels about her, everything they've done to gether, tells him how much he loves her, how much she means to him. And after all's said and done... He presents Laura with an engagement ring. She says yes. Second one, before the final battle: Kyuukai's getting ready to go fight. After packing up, and having his night with Laura, he's left with Tabane. They talk, they say goodbye. She leaves with Koyomi. Laura visits him, they talk. Selvaria enters the room, lingering in the corner without them noticing. She listens in to what he says to her daughter (if their relationship is the same as HotM). He proposes. She accepts. And her daughter tells him one shocking thing. Spoiler for Spoilers! WARNING! SPOILERS!: She's pregnant. Really. She is. Blame certain conditions. And a faulty condom given to him by Tabane. Selvaria steps out of hiding. And so, Kyuukai gets down on his knees. And in one cliched moment, he decides he's going to walk away. Not from Laura. No, he gets down and asks Selvaria for her daughter's hand. She says yes. But he is going to walk away. Not from commitments. But he's going to walk away from his old life. And make a new one with the family he already has. He's not going to fight anymore. His turn is over. And in a spoiler for future plot: And fifteen years later, it's Aria Reimi Tokiwa's turn to play. Kyuukai's revelation happens in both. He realizes what he has isn't worth risking on a gamble. So after the final battle, he's stepping down. And he's going to live his new life. No more battles, no more pain. But then again, he realizes. It was all worth it to get him where he is now. I'm personally planning to use the second one as the ending.

2011-11-25, 23:24	Link #9592
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Rain - I'll use the grave scene then. He'll realize that no matter how much heroics he does, it won't help Laura any if he ends up as a cold body underground so he makes the last operation the final one before moving on with his life and telling his dad goodbye. I have to meet my friends, so I'll be gone for about an hour or so. See you later/tom (depending if you're still awake) __________________

2011-11-25, 23:40	Link #9593
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	@ Rain Does PT use specific type of I.S. for their duplicate unit or just common type? __________________

2011-11-25, 23:41	Link #9594
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	@zero: Can I just say that the AIA is inspired from the Scwarz Regen's AIC?

2011-11-25, 23:44	Link #9596
MeisterBabylon ~ Your Smile ~ Author Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 346Pro Age: 38	*~~~IS-Type Magazine~~~* The DSN Copernicus was a special ship built by Prof Thongudompen to compliment the Vandam Joaquim and the other MPIS which were being brought in to the Foundation. It was designed to be multi-role, combining submarine, carrier, gunship, and close ground support. This complexity proved to be its downfall, as by the time the Professor completed it, the Caliphate had been all but crushed. Its only role during the campaign against terror was helping ragged DART forces chase down the last of the nuclear devices launched by Imam Arizallah. Being made almost entirely of IS-derived technology, the Copernicus was to be transferred to the ISA after the war, where further refinement of the ship was to be undertaken. However, the fleet escorting it was ambushed by an unnamed battle group which intel believe provided the Caliphate with their monstrous Chastity Engines. The entire DART task force was sunk within minutes. To prevent the Copernicus from falling in to enemy hands, the mortally wounded Prof sunk his ship together with his new Vandam I, taking with him to the bottom of the Pacific. The ship is said to resemble a "flying dwarf torso". The bridge and sensor mast form the "head" which is sunk into the "chest" behind a pair of battleship guns. If one would take mecha shoulders, mount 3 guns on the top of each, then fold it such that the veniers point backwards, that forms the port and starboard artillery sections. Numerous smaller AA guns dot the hull of these sections, providing 360 degree bullet shield coverage. The "backpack" is the long fuselage stretching backwards with a flat top for the flight deck. The "pelvis" houses the main levitation and propulsion systems. It cannot land, but instead splashes down and berths like a ship. If it helps, imagine the Macross Quarter stripped of the BASTER-L, BASTER-R, Macross weapons, arms and legs, leaving just the torso, then modify the back such that it becomes a flight deck. This gives a rough idea of what it looks like. The deck layout is based on the Silvius, which can be found here: http://www.lastexile-fam.com/mecha.html __________________ 白露型駆逐艦の４番艦、夕立です。第三次ソロモン海戦では、けっこう頑張ったっぽい★？

2011-11-25, 23:45	Link #9597
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	I could say that... but the rules tell me no... I have to rewrite my logic circuits if I made such a statement

2011-11-25, 23:56	Link #9599
EthernalRain Head of FRACTURE R&D Join Date: Oct 2011	@ Eratas: I'm not so sure, actually. I think the grunts or the basic troops in PT use common type, mass produced IS. But the special operatives, such as Squall and Autumn use Personal IS.

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ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	^ Hahaha, so like Uchigane, Rafael, and the unnamed MPIS unit then? __________________