2010-12-29, 08:20 | Link #101 |
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We know plenty about Juugo and Kimimaro's relationship and it's an interesting enough relationship to wonder what will happen if they're forced to fight.
Atleast, I've always been interested in Juugo and wanted to know more about him.
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And, once again, this is a silly question. You are not asking "Who" cares (the fact that the issue is even being discussed obviously means that someone cares), but rather "Why should I care", which is a personal question I have no reason to care to answer (and see no reason why you are even asking). But, to answer your question (and to repeat myself), Lee and Kimimaro have a background, but it is obviously far less than Juugo and Kimimaro's (even if Juugo and Kimimaro are relatively undefined and the fight between Lee and Kimimaro covered more actual pages than the background between Juugo and Kimimaro). Consequently, the emotional conflict between Juugo and Kimimaro (even if not fully developed) is a more interesting conflict (to me at least), than that between Lee and Kimimaro (who have no real conflict beyond Lee proving himself). Last edited by james0246; 2010-12-29 at 10:08. |
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We are talking here about the whole alliance, that is the whole ninja world, there must be a lot of not yet named ninjas from the other 4 villages that are very strong. Otherwise it will be too much one sided in favor of Konoha, which would look stupid since the other villages are supposed to be equals of Konoha in the past ninja world wars. Of course i expect that each new character introduced will not get more than a page or two of battle and his name and special powers being told. As you said they are just "plot devices" for this war. But it's nice to see a real war where hundred of powerful ninjas use thousands of jutsu and we experience the intensity and messiness of a real war. |
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Also, this being a war, none of the fights have been strictly 1-on-1. Why assume it'd be just Juugo vs Kimimaro or Lee vs Kimimaro? For all we know, through some strange series of events it could end up Lee, Juugo, Suigetsu and Sakura vs. Chiyo, Kimi and Hanzo with a jinchuuriki or two thrown in there. These fights have been a complete mash-up. Quote:
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Completely different.
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On top of that, the Gates have become the pinnacle of taijutsu techniques, so any variance achieved, no matter how different/unusual, will be completely overshadowed by a few gates opening. I'd really rather not see Lee in a 1on1 fight again.
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2010-12-30, 05:18 | Link #108 | ||
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^ Juugo and Suigetsu seemed to be interesting around 2008. But it's been downhill since then. Part of the problem is that we saw them fight which removed much of their mystery. We saw Juugo go all out against the Raikage and use his biggest attack. And it barely dented A. We already saw a lot from Sui. Then he got one paneled by Darui. That took a lot of steam out of them.
Karin is probably the most interesting Taka member now and that isn't saying much. As for Lee, I notice a surprising number of Naruto fans aren't interested in him now. I am trying to understand why since he seemed popular at one time. I believe his biggest problem is how does he stand out from Gai? They are just too damn similar. And unfortunately, Kishimoto and the anime, have played this up in Shippuden for comedy. What am I going to see from Lee that I can't see from Gai? How will Lee ever top what Gai did to Kisame? The best thing that can happen to Lee is for Gai to die so he can stand on his own and be the only real gate user in Konoha. But that is not going to happen. So Lee will continue to be Gai's mini-me. Which is a shame because the character had a lot of potential at one time before he become a comic relief character. Quote:
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2010-12-30, 09:18 | Link #111 | |
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The only moment when i would think that Naruto is near to down the curtain is when he saves Konoha from some danger being Hokage.
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2010-12-30, 09:22 | Link #112 | |
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The manga itself might not end, but the hole "story of Naruto" and the demons might.
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2010-12-30, 12:09 | Link #113 |
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It's not difficult to imagine: we see that there is only one continent here. What if Kishi makes another continent which invades this one. Of course this would be after Naruto defeated Madara, saved Sasuke and became someone who is even higher standing than a kage, also a timeskip can be added if Kishi wants to show us an 18 year old Naruto after a 12 and 15 year old. In DB/DBZ we have seen Goku as a kid, as a young teenager and as a father too. We also learned in DBZ that his roots are on another planet. After DB ended it seemed that there's nothing more, but there was in DBZ. There are manga and comics where we learn that the main hero is from another world, sometimes in the beginning (superman) and sometimes at the end of the first story (DB/DBZ, Hokuto no ken). I'm not that much interested to see armies/people from other continents but i'm interested to see Naruto as a family man too, that was good in DBZ and i think it would be good in this story too.
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2010-12-30, 12:44 | Link #114 |
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Now not that I wouldn't want to see that, but just to nit pick wasn't it made very clear what the worlds bounds are? As I understand it this IS the only continent. That said, I do remember a ruined "modern" city, and the hole "nobles" and how they fit into the ninja world was never explained. But that might be just sugar to keep at least some mystery alive.
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2010-12-31, 00:28 | Link #119 |
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Speaking of Orochimaru, he's, technically speaking, sealed in Totsuka, right? "In a dreamlike state", if I recall correctly. We don't actually know what happened to those weapons when Itachi died, did we?
Because, if my memory serves correctly, they weren't at Sasuke's disposal. Do you think it possible that Kabuto somehow retrieved the sword or the ability and is using a sealed Orochimaru to power the technique in the first place? Hence the 'This technique has no drawback!' claim? It might be technically true if Kabuto is merely facilitating the jutsu and using Oro as a shield for the drawback. Would also explain why Orochimaru never used the jutsu again after doing it on the 1st and 2nd Hokages.
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