2015-01-14, 19:52 | Link #35402 |
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Is it true that Muslims are flocking to European countries with the intent to immigrate in large numbers plus start big families, in an attempt to one day have a significant Muslim population in those countries, with the intent to be able to vote in Muslim leaders and then have enough voters to dictate national laws and policies, thus making governments which favor Islamic principles (basically, end goal = bring sharia law to England, France, etc.)?
I heard that in the past, and I wouldn't doubt it being true with all the discontent Muslims in England (if you hate the country, why the eff are you moving there/living there?), but I just want to make sure that...well, that they really do have a diabolical plot, or if what I heard was just b.s. from Fox News.
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2015-01-14, 20:55 | Link #35404 |
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The Muslims who migrated to Europe are looking for better living conditions, but they insist on their right to religion because they are made to believe that Islam is the one true religion above all since young.
One easy way is to screen religious studies and squeeze out any portion that dictates them to kill someone of another religion. Another way is to redesignate Islam as a sect/denomination under Abrahamism. Children Caged To Keep Streets Clean For Pope See? Even the Catholics are evil.
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2015-01-14, 21:20 | Link #35406 |
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@SH I just wanted to know. I was told that was a 'plot' Muslims were doing by mass migrating to Europe, and I had wondered if that was true or something from Fox News.
I really wondered because I would sometimes read about Muslims going over to European countries, but then being very discontent in those countries and hating the governments there. For example, this one video I saw of Muslims protesting in some small town in England. Some Muslim woman was arrested because they apprehended a terrorist plot and she was thought to have known about the terrorist plot but withheld info and did not tell authorities. So I saw in this video a bunch of Muslims angrily protesting and one guy was shouting in the megaphone "British police go to hell! British police burn in hell" and some woman was interacting with them on camera, and she asked them questions, and these guys were responding with things like "Of course you'll go to hell, you are a non-believer" and some Muslim lady was disgusted with the British lady interacting with them and was disgusted by the dress she was wearing (nothing risque, it just showed about half her legs and her arms were visible, no big deal). So seeing something like that, and reading about some other things which were kind of similar...seeing all these Muslims migrate over to European countries, only to be discontent and hate the governments there...these things made me really wonder about what I heard...I guess it was sort of about "If so many of you hate it over there, why the heck are so many of you migrating?" in combination with that thing I heard.
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2015-01-14, 21:24 | Link #35407 | |
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The people you quote are products of failed social integration and marginalization rather than religion
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2015-01-14, 21:30 | Link #35408 | |
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See my follow up post. It is just something I heard and had wondered about due to some reasons. It now seems that what I heard was most likely something from Fox News.
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2015-01-14, 22:26 | Link #35409 | |
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The discontent of most Muslims centers around integration in European societies. Many of the first generation immigrants were uneducated laborers who brought their families over. When the European economies started to move away from traditional industry, these immigrants were hit hardest in terms of employment. The second and third generations are literally stuck between cultures which breeds discontent. Their traditional upbringing doesn't prepare them for the challenges of life in a modern service based economy. They struggle in the labor market and are overrepresented in crime figures and match up poorly compared to other immigrant groups in terms of economic success. Wide spread job discrimination is common but also the result of bad experiences by employers and coworkers. Some turn to faith to help them deal with hardship. Some come to resent their new country and connect with more militant forms of religion. The countries of origin are no help as they often try to influence and keep strong ties with migrants as they represent an important source of income. They send back money to relatives and buy real estate and products. In some cases they also have influence on which clergy move over. So no, any reports of a Muslim conspiracy to colonize Europe are nonsense, but there are serious problems. |
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2015-01-14, 22:37 | Link #35410 | |
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I really do hate Fox News. So many times they will distort truth or straight up lie, giving to their audiences what they want to hear, not accurate reporting instead. Fox News spreads so much misinformation.
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2015-01-15, 03:33 | Link #35411 | |
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Just something to think about. |
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2015-01-15, 03:50 | Link #35412 | |
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They exploit people's charity, is more luxurious than most people (has appliances despite not having a decent house) and can be incapable of following the simplest local laws.
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2015-01-15, 07:25 | Link #35413 | |
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Recently they had an "expert" on air who seriously said this: "In Britain, it's not just no-go zones, there are actual cities like Birmingham that are totally Muslim where non-Muslims just simply don't go in". The British Prime Minister, David Cameron, replied to this: "When I heard this, frankly, I choked on my porridge and I thought it must be April Fool's Day," Cameron said, "this guy is clearly a complete idiot." And this is no exception. After 9/11, when they found out that one of the terrorists came from Hamburg, I had the very same situation: There, another "terrorist expert" blabbered around that the terrorist came from a "islamistic cesspool in Hamburg that police doesn't dare enter anymore". He actually lived 500 meters away from my home, a peaceful area within Harburg (part of Hamburg) in which lots of students live. Guys, seriously. Fox News doesn't inform anybody about facts, it never has. It feeds you what a particularly unpalatable part of the GOP wants you to believe. Disinformation from the malicious to the ignorant masses. Simple as that. And to answer your question: No, there is no "mass invasion" of muslims in Europe. People who live and work here tend to get their families over, as well. Also, birthrates of families of the muslim faith tend to be higher than those of the locals. So, the percentage of inhabitants of muslim faith are gradually growing. In the UK, it's around 5%, in Germany, it's around 6%. In France, it's 8-10%. |
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2015-01-15, 08:53 | Link #35415 | |
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Also the fact that they don't yet have many viewers means they don't devote as much time to advertising either!
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2015-01-15, 09:21 | Link #35416 | |
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Speaking of which, I found this : Evidence that sheds doubt on the official story regarding the Charlie Hebdo shootings. Oh goodness, the stupidity.
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2015-01-15, 09:29 | Link #35417 |
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Turkish premier equates Israel's Netanyahu to Paris attackers
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0KO0Q920150115 Swiss central bank shocks markets with currency 'tsunami' http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0KO0XK20150115 Exclusive: U.S. lawmakers push ahead on Iran sanctions - senior senator http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0KO01X20150115 The right thing to do... if you want to kill the current nuclear talk.
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2015-01-15, 10:58 | Link #35419 | |
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Ohio man arrested for planning attack on U.S. Capitol
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2015-01-15, 21:22 | Link #35420 |
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That U.S. ISIS sympathizer...I know people like to say this a lot on the internet, but seriously, lock him up and throw away the key and let him rot away in prison for the rest of his life. No sympathy for him. If you have sympathy for those evil, barbaric savages from ISIS and then also want to carry out a terrorist attack and commit mass murder...yeah, f--- those kinds of people, lock them up, let them rot to their dying day in prison.
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