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Originally Posted by BetoJR
Really? Did you read the series' bible or something, so you can outright state something like that? Would someone who has never seen the series be able to interpret his past like that? No? Then we're through with this argument, right here.
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I was asking that question to
you. Do
you have any proof that Alto's history changed? No... no? Then drop that. If there is no
proof his history was changed, then it remained the same as the series.
Besides, Kawamori did state that it was a rewrite of the series storyline, not their pasts; so we are left to realize their pasts are pretty much the same.
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Originally Posted by supernaps
Sheryl and Michael often teased Alto who responded in a similar way of imma-angry-face, but that does not equal 'treated them the same.'
They are all different people, therefore they get different treatment.
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No, Alto treated Sheryl the same way. Blushed and was flustered because she's a woman at times, but otherwise, he gave her the same irritated replies just like with Michael. He seriously treated her, in an argument, like she was one of the boys.
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Alto knew that Ranka is a young, innocent and sensitive girl so he was being there for her, encouraging her and all this jazz shit.
With Sheryl, at first she comes across as a strong individual relying on her musical career and stuff, and later when she breaks down he is also there, reaching out on her and helping her.
Point. He was there for both of them, but the difference lies in the fact, that he got intimate with one. That's the difference between friendship and romance.
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Except, when he met Sheryl, he didn't give a rat's ass about her or her career. He was there to do his job. Until he messed up his stunt and had to catch (and carry her) through the crowds; he didn't even acknowledge how good a singer she was.
With Ranka, he met her; they clicked right off the bat. Ranka may have talked him to death but her good first impression was inviting him into her life by saying "come by Nyan-Nyan sometime and I'll repay you" hence giving him a "come see me again" line. This was a welcome mat.
Sheryl's was not.
So it took him a
long time to warm up to Sheryl.
And actually, until I read the light novel for myself, I don't believe Sheryl and Alto ever got intimate. I don't see any physical proof. A kiss, touching, maybe; but I doubt he'd be stupid enough to have sex with her and possibly get the virus himself. I don't think Alto is that stupid.
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Originally Posted by Tak
He was trying very hard to resist. I doubt its appropriate to be staring at someone's boobies even if they are very erm... visually enticing...
Actually, don't try to put yourself in our shoes... you fail every time.
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Ah, where's the actual screen shot when I want it:
He ist staring at her face, not her boobs; and he don't even look happy she's there either.
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Originally Posted by Tak
Hi, there was no date. There was... a tag-along.
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Her exact words: "I heard from Onii-chan that the S.M.S. is taking a vacation on Mayan island. I was hoping we could meet..."
And, a few clips later, Alto is
waiting for her.
Ranka: Wait long?
Alto: Not really.
If you really look at Alto and Ranka's first words here, you already know that this is an implied date. Whether either party takes it that way is up to them. But their actions at the beginning here are boyfriend waiting on girlfriend, she arrives, apologizes for being late, and they head out.
Plus, to knock it out of the park, they spend the entire day doing things that couples normally do. I'm surmised to say that seeing Alto and Ranka eating snow cones was a big smile for me. It has a similar effect (though opposite in my case) of watching Alto and Sheryl with the hot dogs in movie 1.
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Originally Posted by Tak
And what did Alto learn in both universes about little queen? Not very much. That is despite Ranka spewing forth her story over and over and over again every single time she had a conversation with Alto. Alto actually learned more about Ranka from the NUNS than he ever did from her.
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Take into account that Ranka didn't know much about herself to begin with. She knew somewhere that she had a connection with the Vajra, but she didn't know why or how. So of course he had to learn that from N.U.N.S. because she didn't know it herself.
What part of
amnesia do you not understand there?
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Originally Posted by Swampstorm
I don't think that being independent is at odds with having romantic relationships. If you have two fiercely independent people, they intrinsically understand the value of having dreams and ambitions. If they respect each other and are willing to make compromises, they can push each other to become much more than they are individually, and to make those dreams into a reality. They're strong apart, yet even stronger together. In fact, I'd argue that this is the only sort of relationship worth having.
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I was meaning, in a certain case when I stated Sheryl was better as an individual that Kawamori originally gave her out this way. I think I remember at one point, Kawamori had been interviewed by Endo and joked about Sheryl being find as a stand-alone character, because she was strong enough to be by herself; unlike some of the other characters. So I was basically saying that whether Alto ended up with Sheryl or not, Kawamori's stand-alone choice was for Sheryl to be by herself (and I think that influenced his end of Sheryl ending up by herself - though Alto
might return one day).
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Originally Posted by MichiNekoChan
haha yea its hilarious that she thinks that. Wow, wish she would of seen my boyfriend and I when we first met. We disliked each other greatly and argued tons. And now here I am with him and coming up on our 4th anniversary together :P
My personal belief if that you actually learn MORE if you argue with someone since the feelings come across that much stronger. It doesn't matter what its about, true feelings show when arguing. (albeit its not always pretty)
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The more you argue with someone, the more you're inclined to dig deeper wounds and cause problems in the future.
Now, take, for example, my father's parents. They married when they were young (grandmother = 18, grandfather = 23). My grandmother died when she turned 78, my grandfather's still kicking; they'd been married that long. But they had arguments and disagreements like no other, ones that even affected how their kids saw them, but that's the same type of love that Alto and Sheryl have (arguing over stupid things like dishes). But he eventually decided to treat her like trash because he felt she was doing so to him. And, in the end, he became conceited, forced all the responsibilities onto her, and she died because she couldn't take anymore of the pressure. Because of how they acted around their kids, my father refuses to see eye-to-eye with him, nor does a lot of the kids in his family.
Take into account that their arguments, in the beginning were like Alto and Sheryl's. Now this arguing they're doing now... it's only gonna grow. I'm sure you don't want to see them repeat my grandparents now, do you? If Alto is to be with Sheryl, they have to do some serious molding, otherwise, I can already tell there will be some issues when they hit financial problems (and everyone does sooner or later even the richest people).
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Besides, a healthy fight is good for any relationship. 
Just ask Beto. 
