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Mach56gs · 2016-10-03, 01:15

What the heck is this worlds, guys.

frivolity · 2016-10-03, 01:39

I watched FW vs SKT and CLG vs KOO. Seems to me like the Koreans don't seem particularly prepared to deal with Aurelion Sol, because they kept getting caught out in ganks.

Last Sinner · 2016-10-03, 01:40

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Originally Posted by Mach56gs

What the heck is this worlds, guys.

It's the first week of group stages with Bo1s and plenty of time to prepare. Wait until things get to Bo5 and having to prepare between games. Then the contenders will emerge.

Either way, an interesting day. Clearly even the Koreans can allow themselves to be victims of pride. Because for both of them to miss an obvious ban the day it was re-enabled is rather confusing otherwise.

Kotohono · 2016-10-03, 08:23

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Originally Posted by frivolity

I watched FW vs SKT and CLG vs KOO. Seems to me like the Koreans don't seem particularly prepared to deal with Aurelion Sol, because they kept getting caught out in ganks.

They probably undervalued the pick and didn't practice enough against it since it was disabled for a time.

Also Luna totally seems to have the potential to be the new M5/Gambit for Russia, they've performed way better than past wildcard teams. Too bad that Russia can't get Visas to play in the EULSC the region would probably be stronger with their presence.

And I still can't believe that no one is undefeated after first half of groups.

Eisdrache · 2016-10-03, 10:29

NA 6-3
Korea 6-3
China 5-4
Wild card 3-3

EU 1-8

I'm so proud of my region.

frivolity · 2016-10-03, 15:49

It will be a test for Korean teams to adapt to Aurelion Sol. It reminds me of TI3 in Dota 2 three years ago, when the Chinese teams were caught off-guard after Western teams successfully used Gyrocopter and Wisp against them - two heroes that the Chinese teams widely regarded as useless heroes.

I think it's more likely that the Koreans will do what everyone else will, which is to simply ban Aurelion, but I'd be more impressed if they, with their full teams of analysts behind them, can come up with a strategy to counter Aurelion.

Last Sinner · 2016-10-03, 17:39

You've assumed that Koreans have never played against AS in the LCK. Fly on KT Rolster was quite good on the champion. It isn't really the AS pick that is the bigger issue. It is more the point that teams are being very proactive and going 3v1 mid at regular intervals or going for early surprise gank spots. AS gave CLG a win balance out the fact they lost to the wildcard Albus Nox. And it gave Flash Wolves their first win. Ban/pick strategies and awareness of other lane movements will be upped.

DemonOfWrath · 2016-10-05, 06:58

Yeah it isn't so much Sol but other problems SKT/ROX have being exacerbated by the pick.

SKT: Blank is the weak link. When they aren't ahead he either lacks presence (his Olaf did nothing) or being in dumb places and being punished for it (his Nidalee game didn't look good until everyone else just smashed their lanes). I reckon they'll sub Bengi back in and crush week 2, their lanes are monstrous they just need their jungler to actually give them backup. Case in point, Faker is obviously awesome, but his playstyle is vulnerable to being camped so he needs at least some assistance vision-wise to avoid having his aggressive tendencies exploited.

ROX: Their macro and teamplay is awesome. Their first 10 mins is utter shit though so far, they've been thrashed early in all 3 games. They have to actually clean up their early game or pick more dominant lanes, there's way too many strong laning teams (SKT/TSM/RNG/EDG at minimum) that are potential opponents outside of groups that they just can't get that far behind against if they want to advance further.

Kotohono · 2016-10-06, 22:32

Spoiler for Rox Tigers vs Albus NoX Luna 2nd match:

IceHism · 2016-10-06, 22:43

Everyone's pick ems have now been clearly destroyed. That game was amazing.

Kotohono · 2016-10-07, 09:09

Spoiler for End of group A:

LoweGear · 2016-10-07, 09:33

So, can we get an anime now, preferably with magical girls?

YouTube

https://youtu.be/oorajmbSJUM

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There's also another version by Riot Japan that has a different song, which imho sounds much better:

YouTube

https://youtu.be/dqtjtJh3j-8

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Eisdrache · 2016-10-07, 15:48

Spoiler for Group A:

frivolity · 2016-10-07, 19:54

Did anyone just see that Baron steal with the Karma Q by AHQ.Albis???

Mach56gs · 2016-10-07, 20:20

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Originally Posted by frivolity

Did anyone just see that Baron steal with the Karma Q by AHQ.Albis???

Gave me a heart attack.

Group A wasn't too surprising, Aphro was too engrossed in trying to use Bard's R to evade the Jhin roots. The game really showcased how strong Jhin is at picking up people from far away - Alistar took care of the rest.

Last Sinner · 2016-10-08, 13:05

Well, one can't say these Worlds are really throwing some spanners in the works. As if Group A didn't really light up the works with its day, Group C lit an utter bomb.

What will Group D offer with its day when three teams are tied at the top?

But despite all this, I'm keeping thoughts in check. Bo5s are a very different scenario to Bo1s. And we all know what happened at MSI this year when SKT looked like they were in real trouble then went boss mode in the playoffs.

That said, if there is one thing coming out of this, it is that the other regions are finally giving some reason to believe that Korea won't be eternal world champions.

Eragon · 2016-10-08, 17:27

Spoiler for Worlds:

IceHism · 2016-10-08, 20:27

Spoiler for bleh:

Last Sinner · 2016-10-08, 22:45

Well, the results of D showed two things.

Spoiler for Group D:

Tomorrow we see what comes out of Group B.

Eisdrache · 2016-10-09, 00:04

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Originally Posted by Eisdrache

EU 1-8

I'm so proud of my region.

As it stands, EU has a team in quarters whereas other regions don't

2016-10-03, 01:15	Link #6561
Mach56gs Do-Gooder Join Date: Jul 2012	What the heck is this worlds, guys. __________________

2016-10-03, 17:39	Link #6567
Last Sinner You're Hot, Cupcake Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 42	You've assumed that Koreans have never played against AS in the LCK. Fly on KT Rolster was quite good on the champion. It isn't really the AS pick that is the bigger issue. It is more the point that teams are being very proactive and going 3v1 mid at regular intervals or going for early surprise gank spots. AS gave CLG a win balance out the fact they lost to the wildcard Albus Nox. And it gave Flash Wolves their first win. Ban/pick strategies and awareness of other lane movements will be upped. __________________

2016-10-07, 09:33	Link #6572
LoweGear Secret Society BLANKET Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 3 times the passion of normal flamenco	So, can we get an anime now, preferably with magical girls? YouTube https://youtu.be/oorajmbSJUM Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? There's also another version by Riot Japan that has a different song, which imho sounds much better: YouTube https://youtu.be/dqtjtJh3j-8 Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________ Against all the evil that hell can conjure, all wickedness that mankind can produce... We will send unto them, only you.

2016-10-07, 15:48	Link #6573
Eisdrache Part-time misanthrope Join Date: Mar 2007	Spoiler for Group A: Huhi's play was really bad in the game against ROX and Aphro had literally zero impact on his Bard. Meanwhile NOX just got smashed in the tiebreaker game and got steamrolled against G2 as well. PvPStejos has had very questionable routing and Likkrit sometimes just gets randomly caught in places he should never be.

2016-10-08, 13:05	Link #6576
Last Sinner You're Hot, Cupcake Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 42	Well, one can't say these Worlds are really throwing some spanners in the works. As if Group A didn't really light up the works with its day, Group C lit an utter bomb. What will Group D offer with its day when three teams are tied at the top? But despite all this, I'm keeping thoughts in check. Bo5s are a very different scenario to Bo1s. And we all know what happened at MSI this year when SKT looked like they were in real trouble then went boss mode in the playoffs. That said, if there is one thing coming out of this, it is that the other regions are finally giving some reason to believe that Korea won't be eternal world champions. __________________

2016-10-03, 10:29	Link #6565
Eisdrache Part-time misanthrope Join Date: Mar 2007	NA 6-3 Korea 6-3 China 5-4 Wild card 3-3 EU 1-8 I'm so proud of my region.

2016-10-05, 06:58	Link #6568
DemonOfWrath Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011	Yeah it isn't so much Sol but other problems SKT/ROX have being exacerbated by the pick. SKT: Blank is the weak link. When they aren't ahead he either lacks presence (his Olaf did nothing) or being in dumb places and being punished for it (his Nidalee game didn't look good until everyone else just smashed their lanes). I reckon they'll sub Bengi back in and crush week 2, their lanes are monstrous they just need their jungler to actually give them backup. Case in point, Faker is obviously awesome, but his playstyle is vulnerable to being camped so he needs at least some assistance vision-wise to avoid having his aggressive tendencies exploited. ROX: Their macro and teamplay is awesome. Their first 10 mins is utter shit though so far, they've been thrashed early in all 3 games. They have to actually clean up their early game or pick more dominant lanes, there's way too many strong laning teams (SKT/TSM/RNG/EDG at minimum) that are potential opponents outside of groups that they just can't get that far behind against if they want to advance further.

2016-10-06, 22:43	Link #6570
IceHism Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014	Everyone's pick ems have now been clearly destroyed. That game was amazing.

2016-10-08, 17:27	Link #6577
Eragon Still Alive Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Somewhere far far away Age: 30	Spoiler for Worlds: China is trash. Like literally no brain power to play any kind of macro if they are behind. __________________ Signature courtesy of rikikai

2016-10-08, 20:27	Link #6578
IceHism Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2014	Spoiler for bleh: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooo tsmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm EDG ma boys. please win worlds. or maybe rng. I'm fine with them too.

2016-10-08, 22:45	Link #6579
Last Sinner You're Hot, Cupcake Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 42	Well, the results of D showed two things. Spoiler for Group D: 1. First for Worlds where no team ended up winless in group stages. 2. Korea really means business. Samsung really came to play today, meaning they've got another three-pronged assault on the playoffs if SKT perform like they usually do. Pity TSM couldn't get over the line, but I get the feeling that being 2nd, they would end up facing either ROX or SKT, which would be fatal. RNG get over the line but their dependence on Uzi will get exploited hard. Tomorrow we see what comes out of Group B. __________________