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And even if your theory is right, and that the AMF only activated when Nanoha and Vita entered, it changes nothing. Quoting the DVD booklet: The high concentration field filling the Cradle that prevents magical bonding. The reason for not doing a complete cut off is because magic is an extremely efficient and good energy source for Midchildra, and thus is essential to the daily activities and machinery usage of the people on board. It is thought that the Cradle's crew and knights are trained to resist AMF, and thus can use magic against intruders who are having difficulty using magic, thus increasing the defensive capability of the ground. "Filling the Cradle." Whether or not the rounds were not around Nanoha doesn't matter. Whether or not they activated the AMF doesn't matter. The AMF fills the entire ship, thus the round would have been inevitably affected. The only reason it didn't disappear was because Nanoha kept pumping more energy into it. Quote:
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The theory 'the speed calculations show that couldn't have happened' is irrelevant to begin with, considering we've seen the same thing happening in A's. With earth-made concrete. So those speeds are speeds that aren't realistic to begin with, showing that your calculations are not reliable. Quote:
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You, however, are suggesting that this AMF was turned off. Never was this mentioned, so why should we assume this change happened? Quote:
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Except that it's been kind of, you know, stated that it is ship-wide. Last edited by Keroko; 2009-04-17 at 11:30. |
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"High". One of those relative words that are almost useless without a absolute reference. Even if you say Nanoha is very l33t, if this "high concentration" AMF is not breaking up her dinky little scout rounds or the 500m long extension cords even under conditions of drastic geometric advantage, well then this "high" can't be very "high" relative to the standards that count. It is also clear that even though this is supposed to be a "high" setting, it is still (at least normally) set low enough to not interfere with activities and usage of magical equipment. Which puts a lot of things in perspective. Quote:
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[quote]You, however, are suggesting that this AMF was turned off. Never was this mentioned, so why should we assume this change happened? Why should we assume the 500m extension cords ... etc that would be required to support the other scenario existed? At least here, the controls are already in place (since they clearly had not turned it up to the "Complete Cutoff" setting, so there are settings). Quote:
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2009-04-17, 22:31 | Link #2024 |
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Even diesel-powered warships carry at least three radars. The Aegis CGs carry five. Nimitz-class carriers carry seven. On top of all the juice needed to run the systems, including EW which sucks up a lot of power.
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It is not so much me seeing the light or not. It is the power of canon. It is inadmissible to pick a solution outside the boundaries of canon.
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2009-04-19, 14:56 | Link #2031 |
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Might be better to ask someone else but all I know is that they're corpse weapons, and that they release vile substances when they explode...
Kinda like the Boomers in L4D... and hence the reason I like the idea of crossing over Nanoha with L4D...
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2009-04-19, 16:17 | Link #2032 |
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Alright, it's been a LONG time since I've posted in this thread. I came in here a couple minutes ago, plugged Gundam into the search box, and see what it came up with. One of the posts mentioned a Nanoha/Gundam SEED crossover.......anyone mind shedding some light on that?
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@Hayashi: Never actually seen it bear fruit, but I did notice 1/2 chapters in Fanfic thread... and that's about it. Never read them myself. Hope that helps.
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2009-04-20, 03:04 | Link #2035 |
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They are also able to form thier arms to blades and grenade launchers (or something similiar at last) as it is stated thier weaponry is composed of "Swords and Explosives".
And they are all linked by an network without any individuality (They even look all the same).
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2009-04-20, 03:36 | Link #2036 |
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I'll throw in my 2 cents into the W.A.S. scout round argument. Instead of constantly supplying mana to the scouts, couldn't it be that Nanoha made the scout rounds with a certain amount of energy included with it to transmit data as well as protecting them from the AMF? Like IRL drones that has its own power supply if I'm not mistaken.
If I remember correctly, Nanoha did not deploy all the drones at the same time but one after another. Possible that she was gathering energy from her linker core to create the scort + 'battery'? I also believe that due to this ("scout and battery"), she resorted to the blaster system just to force more power from her linker core to power her attacks. So while she has a lot (and I do mean a lot as in tremendous amounts) of power, it still wasn't enough after creating so many scouts. |
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Also, if Nanoha has to continuously pump in more mana, would the AMF in the Cradle erode the mana as it travels from Nanoha to the scout round, hence wasting more mana? Perhaps I need to describe how I view the scout round. Currently my opinion of the scout round consist of a few parts. The scout itself, a dense packet of energy, a renewable shield protecting both scout and energy source and a transmitter. The scout itself is protected against AMF by the shield which is constantly eroded but draws energy/mana from the packet to renew it. It searches the area until the last bits of mana where it simply transmitted a not found to Nanoha before expiring or a target located with the coordinates. |
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There is a limit of how much nanoha can pack into her W.A.S i believe. Edit: Of course, there is a possibility that it can dissolve a shooter by catostophical failure (i mean it attacks a point hat dissolves everything else), in which case it might be quite a bit slower. |
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