2011-01-09, 00:36 | Link #2822 | |
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But anyway, there's nothing really concrete about how Jail was involved with Lutecia. All we know is that after they got Megane, Uno noted that she had a daughter that they could use(this is confirmed via a StrikerS flashback; Uno was talking to the brain council at the time). And from the Vivid mange in a flashback, we see Megane using a boost device, which could have been Asclepious. So there are a few ways of looking at it. #1. My personal pet theory, is that Lu had some magic potential, and Jail boosted that (she's S rank at age, which seems a bit out there). Thus, she's "artificial" in the sense that her magic was amplified and added to. Possibly switched Megane's magic to Lu, and thus Lu is actually summoning Megane's creatures. #2. A slight deviance from the above, where Lu has no magic, so Jail made her a mage. #3. The Lu that we know is a clone of Megane's daughter that died(probably died in an experiment); and probably only Jail, Uno, and Quattro know about it. And they ain't talkin'. So Lutecia is like Zest, but just a better-made clone. Possibly Zest was made first, found to be imperfect, and Jail corrected those flaws when making Lu. I'm sure someone can put out another theory or two, but those are my best guesses. |
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2011-01-09, 05:41 | Link #2825 | ||
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2011-01-09, 08:03 | Link #2826 |
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Don't know about numbers, Subaru and Zest, but Ginga, Lutecia and Vivio had both relic and control mechanism implanted. Whether "cyborg" circle under Lu-chan when Quatro activated control mechanism is because of that or not is unknown.
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2011-01-09, 12:19 | Link #2827 |
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Well, the relics themselves were the result of ancient Belkans trying to strengthen their bodies (magic powers, presumably). When Vivio got one, she got considerably more powerful. It's possible Lutecia (and maybe Zest) had one as well. It could have been removed, or Jail could have utilized another method of transferring a relic's power into someone.
It's possibly why Jail told Lu that she needed Relic #11 to awaken her mom. If there are subtle differences in the relics via number, and Jail got a hold of a database that listed them out, he probably felt #11 would best suit Megane (and thus turn her into another artificial mage along with providing a control mechanism). The other possible angle on this, is that only ancient Belkans had modified their bodies to be able to accept relics. So part of Jail's research could have been in finding a way to transfer a relic's power to a normal person of today. Since Vivio was technically the only ancient Belkan around, only her body could have taken a relic the normal way. Anyway, that's mostly my theories to have things make sense. You're pretty much left on your own to decide what the specifics are, since we're never really told what the exact details were. As far as we know, though, Ginga only had some sort of control/brainwashing in place. No relic emerged from her when Subaru blasted her, so there wasn't one within her. |
2011-01-09, 15:36 | Link #2829 | |
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Ginga was the one with the drill hand. Subaru ended that fight with a fairly massive (for her) Divine Buster. Afterward, Ginga was back to her normal self. Vivio was mostly back to herself after Quattro was knocked out, but her body was still controlled by the ship, probably because she had a relic. With that gone and the link cut, Vivio was herself again. |
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2011-01-09, 22:23 | Link #2831 |
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How old was Hayate when she was first able to freely walk again?
Edit: Per A's Sound Stage 3, Nanoha addresses Signum and Shamal both as "-san" (Yuuno and Chrono are "-kun"; Fate, Hayate, Suzuka, Arisa, and Vita "-chan"; Subaru and Tea don't get an honorific, but that might be because they're Nanoha's subordinates in the military sense; Rein Zwei doesn't get one either). I do note that in the StrikerS sound stages, Nanoha will regularly refer to Hayate, Fate, and Vita by their military ranks/positions when it's apparently appropriate to do so. I'm going to stop and thank Nagumo right now for leaving the honorifics in when she does her translations so this question can actually have an answer. (And hm, I just learned that Suzuka's mother is still alive, thanks to said Sound Stage. Which kind of makes sense, since she lived long enough in Nanoha canon to have a second child...) Last edited by DezoPenguin; 2011-01-09 at 22:35. |
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2011-01-11, 19:08 | Link #2835 | ||
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So that would put her around 12? Granted, it then goes on to talk about what seems like the events of A's SS 03, which occurred right as Hayate entered 4th grade, not 6th grade. But of course, Hayate did rehab with Nanoha, so 12 makes a lot more sense than 10. |
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