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View Poll Results: Should Sergay sacrifice his virture to save the world?
Yes, Sleep with Nina, sacrifice himself and save the world 49 54.44%
No, refuse Nina and watch the world burn. 41 45.56%
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Old 2006-03-17, 12:17   Link #1
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Talking [Spoiler]Should Sergay take one for the good of the world

Looking at the preview for Ep24 we see a naked Nina and Sergay the Harem master. Now i think we can all agree that Sergay will do the right thing and refuse Nina. But just for fun I like to see other opinion on whether Sergay need to sacrifice his virture and save the world form Dark Nina.

So the question is, shouls Sergay take one for the team and sacrifice himself to save the world?

Or

Refuse Nina and spank her for being a bad girl oh wait i mean Refuse Nina and do the right thing.
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Old 2006-03-17, 12:34   Link #2
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First of all, I don't think she's offering herself to him, she's just showing that she's all woman now.

Secondly, I don't think he'd bang her so as to make her essentially useless. If he decided to oppose Nagi, destroying her nanomachines isn't the best opening bet.

Finally, I think your question is inherently flawed. Who cares about saving the world? I'd hit that like the fist of an angry god no matter the circumstances.
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Old 2006-03-17, 13:05   Link #3
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You know, has it ever occured to you that Nina maybe got hurt somewhere or something and wants Sergay to take a look at it and by a "wardrobe malfunction" it just came off?

Just exploring other possiblities.
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Old 2006-03-17, 13:11   Link #4
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by a "wardrobe malfunction" it just came off?

Just exploring other possiblities.
i don't see Justin Timberlake anywhere int he background, so how could she has a malfunction.
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Old 2006-03-17, 13:19   Link #5
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Voted for Burn the world ... since my ass is fireproof (forum tested ) I should be ok with that

You know what would be grate ... if Mikoto activated her global cat-eye device while this wonderfull scene took place and Mai and Arika witnesed it ... oh how I would like to see they're faces

Franckily I think Nina is at the point of loosing it and this is her last bid for afection ... maybe Nina will be the one who refuses Sergay in the end
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Old 2006-03-17, 14:06   Link #6
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I don't think that Sergey will do anything wrong in the next episode, but I do expect him to die in the end. I think that he will betray Nagi again and, on Nagi's orders, Tomoe and her Valkyrie will kill him in front of Arika and Nina. His last words will be to tell Nina that he did it for her. Then we get to see how Nagi's forces stand up against two enraged Otome. And, while his bond to Nina will offer him protection against Arika, it will not offer any protection from Nina.
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Old 2006-03-17, 14:10   Link #7
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i rather watch the world burn(mai otome fantasy anime) than watching the anime becomes "M21" sergeiXnina special edition series..

hmm in my country we rated as m21(rating chart based on the policy of legal age watching porno in cinema) but in japan the legal age to watch pornography should be 18 ba...

i knows its anime..but i will curse him if he did it wif nina..
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Old 2006-03-17, 15:46   Link #8
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I'm thinking with either of the two options, the world will burn, one way or the other.

If he sacrifices himself to save the world...Arika might be upset but understanding...but what about Mai? Gave up on her for Nina??? Wait, that means a Kagu-revival... Go Sergay, Go! Bring back the ultimate kick-arse Kagutsuchi!!! XD oh yes, the world will burn either way...

Anyway, I see him taking on Smith in a nice Trigun/Cowboy Bebop-style gunbattle inside the castle and him 'dying' there...but with at least 2 Otome (can stretch upwards to 5 total) who at least think about him, I don't see him really dying...^^;
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Old 2006-03-17, 18:20   Link #9
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Creepy as it is, saving the lives of hundreds of thousands by banging his horny, 15 year old adopted daughter; would definitely be the right action. If I was someone caught up in the conflict, thatís the choice Iíd be rooting for.

However, looking her in the eye the next morning would probably be the hardest thing he'll ever have to do.
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Old 2006-03-17, 18:24   Link #10
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If Sergay was logical, he would do the deed.

But he is a hero. And heroes are idiots. (that doesn't make them bad people; just idiotic)

So he would save the world the hard way.

That's what heroes do, really. Their job is to ignore the big picture and to do what's the most correct action right in front of them.
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Old 2006-03-17, 18:34   Link #11
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Creepy as it is, saving the lives of hundreds of thousands by banging his horny, 15 year old adopted daughter; would definitely be the right action. If I was someone caught up in the conflict, thatís the choice Iíd be rooting for.

However, looking her in the eye the next morning would probably be the hardest thing he'll ever have to do.
Well if Mai happen to be watching then waking up next moring would be the last thing he needs to worried about It will be a very hot hot hot night.
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Old 2006-03-17, 19:06   Link #12
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Well if Mai happen to be watching then waking up next moring would be the last thing he needs to worried about It will be a very hot hot hot night.
After episode 23 I'm not even sure if Mai and Sergay were lovers.
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Old 2006-03-17, 19:24   Link #13
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although i said that sergey will sleep wif nina, i dont think that will h appen..
nina cant be an otome if she actually did that....
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Old 2006-03-17, 19:27   Link #14
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I think that's the point StellarL. Although I could be wrong.
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Old 2006-03-17, 19:49   Link #15
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I don't care if the world is destroyed either way, but I'd rather see Sergey stick true to his character. And for me, that means not sleeping with Nina. If he does this right, whether he dies in the end or not, he'll be among the memorable aspects of Mai Otome and I'll be content with the show whichever direction it heads towards.
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Old 2006-03-17, 20:07   Link #16
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I don't care if the world is destroyed either way, but I'd rather see Sergey stick true to his character. And for me, that means not sleeping with Nina. If he does this right, whether he dies in the end or not, he'll be among the memorable aspects of Mai Otome and I'll be content with the show whichever direction it heads towards.
I agree, but still...

We only say that because we know the good guys would win in the end. But what if this is the only chance he has in ending Nagi's plans? What if there is no Mashiro, Mai, Miyu etc to save the day?

It's not at all uncommon for many heroes to be stuck in this dilemma. To break one's principles to save the world, or not?

Those who break their principles, often become mentally broken themselves, and chose to disappear from history even though the world was grateful.

Those who stick to their principles, then had to hope there WAS another way. And that he/she didn't just abandoned the last chance to stop the apocalypse.

(A more realistic example than sleeping with one's daughter, is to assassinate the source of the calamity while under one's hospitality. Via poison, perhaps. Is it right? Or wrong? Who knows?)

Sergay DOESN'T know what we know, that a change of the tide has began, and many champions have united to bring down Nagi. All he knows is that the longer Nina serves under Nagi, the more people will die, and more importantly the more people Nina will kill.
He knows that, should he bite the bullet, Nina would be spared of further battles.

He won't, of course. He would look for another way. That's what heroes always do. And there WILL be another way, because this is a fictional story.

I just wish things worked out that nicely in the real world...
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Old 2006-03-17, 20:35   Link #17
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Well the thing is, I don't think Sergey would be making this choice from a hero's perspective, but rather from a father's. Let's look at it this way, her daughter has just suddenly confronted him with something that he may already know about but don't want to face it until he comes to that "bridge". Depending on how the circumstance comes about, it may be so sudden that he may have to deal with the situation at face value without thinking of the bigger picture. While it is clear that Sergey does not want his daughter to be used to bring about destruction, it is also clear that asssenting to this relationship the way Nina wants it to be is also not something he thinks is right for Nina either. On one hand, he's trained Nina to be an otome candidate, so he must have accepted somewhere in his heart that Nina will be used as a weapon as well, but on the other hand, he has never considered the possibility of sleeping with Nina. In other words, by confronting Sergey like this, Nina may have pushed all other thoughts away from Sergey's mind. I know some guys, when suddenly forced to make a sudden decision on the spot, unless they already know that they really want it, would reject the proposition before thinking it through.

Of course, if that scene is really part of Sergey's plan all along, as in he's thought about dissolving Nina's otome power and set this meeting up for that purpose, then that's a whole different story. But I won't know that until next week.
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Well the thing is, I don't think Sergey would be making this choice from a hero's perspective, but rather from a father's. Let's look at it this way, her daughter has just suddenly confronted him with something that he may already know about but don't want to face it until he comes to that "bridge". Depending on how the circumstance comes about, it may be so sudden that he may have to deal with the situation at face value without thinking of the bigger picture. While it is clear that Sergey does not want his daughter to be used to bring about destruction, it is also clear that asssenting to this relationship the way Nina wants it to be is also not something he thinks is right for Nina either. On one hand, he's trained Nina to be an otome candidate, so he must have accepted somewhere in his heart that Nina will be used as a weapon as well, but on the other hand, he has never considered the possibility of sleeping with Nina. In other words, by confronting Sergey like this, Nina may have pushed all other thoughts away from Sergey's mind. I know some guys, when suddenly forced to make a sudden decision on the spot, unless they already know that they really want it, would reject the proposition before thinking it through.

Of course, if that scene is really part of Sergey's plan all along, as in he's thought about dissolving Nina's otome power and set this meeting up for that purpose, then that's a whole different story. But I won't know that until next week.
Good point, but there is something else I didn't mention before; Miyu had told Sergay about Rena's corpse.

Now, this is a sign that Sergay is somehow going to betray Nagi. But to defeat Nagi runs the risk of killing Nina too, UNLESS the contract is broken somehow. So if Sergay went on with whatever he is planning, he would run a good chance of killing his daughter with his own two hands.

So... Sleeping with her? Or get her killed? That is the question.
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Old 2006-03-17, 21:05   Link #19
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So... Sleeping with her? Or get her killed? That is the question.
Knowing Sergey, that will be a tough decision to make. I don't know, if he really is going to betray Nagi... You're making me think too hard. I can't process all of this in my mind, so I'll just say if he's really sincere about it, then he may decide to sleep with Nina, then he'll ride away with Nina into the sunset and marry her as any honourable man would in a country that doesn't know about their past relationship. But like I said, that's if Sergey can afford to think about other stuff than his naked daughter standing in front of him.
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So... Sleeping with her? Or get her killed? That is the question.
Knowing Sergay, it might be that he made Rena take the same choice (ok ... I'm not suggesting he striped in front of her) and look were Rena is now ... maybe he'll join her soon (in death that is) ...
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