(L) C: The Money of Soul and Possibility Control (w/Kenji Nakamura)

[physics223]

@Sapphire

I didn't go into the nomenclature of the cards, just that it easily reflects the representative carriers of it from what we've seen. As the series goes on it may be rectified, but so far I'm just surprised at its congruence with the characters.

[ars89]

Spoiler for ep 4:

Luckily Kimmimaro was able to win with a little help from Mikuni. We get to see what happen's to an entre's future if they go bankrupt. That's a hefty price to pay. I want to know how that even do that.

So Mikuni's guild makes up about a third of the FD. I wonder why it's falling apart? That's what i guessed from Q's responses.

Got to see how badass and strong Mikuni really is. Seems like Kimmimaro has found his goal. So the idea is not to try to win too much and bankrupt someone else, because iif you do it will have a profound impact in reality.

[ARQ]

also of interest was Q's berserker looking mode when mikuni was about to lose. Since none of the other assets have done anything of the sort, i wonder what Q is that makes her different

[The Real Yellow]

this is one of the most interesting series so far when compare to the other on-going series

[SquirrelLuvsPnut]

Off topic, but I hope the show doesn't just go up to 10 episodes as the story page suggests.
http://www.noitamina-control.jp/05story/story3.html

[FlareKnight]

Spoiler for Ep4:

Was definitely interesting to see how bankruptcy affects a person's life. A pretty insane loss to have your children just vanish out of existence. They even managed to erase a child that was still in the womb, that's some insane ability. At least now Kimimaro has a way to approach fighting in that world. Though it's going to be pretty tough to win, but not win by blowing the guy away. Still going for only slight gains is still a good way since you are still making serious profits. Plus Mashu is a strong asset so that approach is possible if he can just avoid doing too much damage.

Crazy fight though from Mikuni. Plus the berserk mode of Q and seemingly bothered when he said she was his asset was interesting. I guess such a cold title isn't quite a good bonding word. It seems the one he called out is kept by Q's side to help keep her calm. She was only gone for a few moments but Q seemed ready to snap.

[Hiro Hayase]

Spoiler for ep4:

I felt sorry for the teacher, having 3 of his children disappear like that. Q is probably a special asset of some sort seeing that berserker mode of her's. Msyu might be just like Q too, her scorched earth seems quite special. Btw Mikuni's dog asset strangely resembles The Egyptian god Anubis.

After watching episode 4 some serious questions emerged. Assets have 10 stocks that they can sell, so what happens when another Entrés buys all the stocks of another Entrés? How many Assets does Mikuni have and how did he get them?

P.S. It's getting interesting now~ I wonder how Kimimaro will fight in his next battle? I expect to see more tarot card symbolism in the following episodes!

[Used Can]

Spoiler for EP4:

I really liked how this episode expanded on something so important like how the lives of the people who lost changed. It really allows us to have and try to speculate on some ideas how Midas takes away your future. This really makes me wonder if the people who commit suicide do so in order so that nothing else disappears.

But, that aside, I really like the development Kimimaro has had in these past two episodes. He's really finding a reason for himself to fight in the FD and how to do it in a way he'd feel at ease - although, it'll bring him for hardships, since it'll make his duels more difficult. Something I really liked was something his teacher pointed out. In anime, they generally like to go by themes that people who fight for others are strong, that hard effort pays off and the like, and while those themes can apply to real life, that's not always the case, and, in fact, it's possible that more often than not, things won't be how you want them to be. This was shown during their duel. The teacher had his knowledge, experience and a reason to fight. However, Kimimaro had a really good connection, and that was what allowed him to beat the teacher. Things like these apply to real life in many aspects, but especially in business. So, I think it was an interesting thing to show.

[doomknight]

Originally Posted by Hiro Hayase

Spoiler for ep4:

After watching episode 4 some serious questions emerged. Assets have 10 stocks that they can sell, so what happens when another Entrés buys all the stocks of another Entrés? How many Assets does Mikuni have and how did he get them?

Spoiler:

Probably if you buy the 10 stocks you get control of the Asset.

Spoiler for Episode 4:

This episode was kind of dark, Kimimaro fight with his teacher who needs win for is family yet he lost because of Mikuni's intervence saving Kimimaro and the teacher when bankrupt and lost his children... i thought he would go crazy and kill Kimimaro or beat him up yet he told him not to lose.. Cant wait for next episode..

[Hiro Hayase]

Originally Posted by Used Can

Spoiler for EP4:

I really liked how this episode expanded on something so important like how the lives of the people who lost changed. It really allows us to have and try to speculate on some ideas how Midas takes away your future. This really makes me wonder if the people who commit suicide do so in order so that nothing else disappears.

But, that aside, I really like the development Kimimaro has had in these past two episodes. He's really finding a reason for himself to fight in the FD and how to do it in a way he'd feel at ease - although, it'll bring him for hardships, since it'll make his duels more difficult. Something I really liked was something his teacher pointed out. In anime, they generally like to go by themes that people who fight for others are strong, that hard effort pays off and the like, and while those themes can apply to real life, that's not always the case, and, in fact, it's possible that more often than not, things won't be how you want them to be. This was shown during their duel. The teacher had his knowledge, experience and a reason to fight. However, Kimimaro had a really good connection, and that was what allowed him to beat the teacher. Things like these apply to real life in many aspects, but especially in business. So, I think it was an interesting thing to show.

Kimimaro's dad committed suicide so that the family wouldn't have to suffer for his collateral expense. That theory does make sense and your also right having "good connections" that could be the difference between a net loss or net income.

[QUOTE=doomknight;3601252]

Spoiler:

Probably if you buy the 10 stocks you get control of the Asset.

Spoiler for Ep4:

After re-watching episode 4 according to Msyu, you could sell 9 stocks and later buy them back.

On another note, I bet Hanabi will enter the financial district sooner or later as an entrepreneur.

[j0x]

Originally Posted by physics223

I think I figured something out in C: it's heavily based in tarot mysticism, but I can't defend it properly without pictures, so I elaborated here.

The credit cards reflect the personalities of the characters that possess them, and they are in synchrony with the Waite-Smith tarot deck.

i do not know that tarot mysticism but nice info you shared on your blog

as for episode 4, this episode shows what the entre will lost when they go bankrupt, the bankrupt Entre will lost everything that he spend/used the midas money for

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Huh, creepy episode, with the kids disappearing just because he lost . That makes it clear why many entres who lose would rather commit suicide than to go on though. It does raise an interesting issuse though: if you only lose that which you used Midas Money to gain then, if you NEVER use any of your Midas Money, would you just remain like you were before you became an entre then? Maybe not, because you suppsoedly bets your future by becoming an entre...

Originally Posted by Hiro Hayase

On another note, I bet Hanabi will enter the financial district sooner or later entrepreneur.

Quite possibly. Or maybe her boyfriend will

[Kanon]

Now that was an incredibly interesting episode. Masakaki wasn't kidding when he said he used the entre's futures as collateral. This is a hellish system, they're forcing people to either destroy someone else's life or be destroyed instead every single week. Thankfully, there is a loophole in this system, as Mikuni has shown.

Mikuni seems like a good guy so far. He and his group are planning to control the financial district in order to minimize its repercussion on the outside world. It's true that there's no telling what would happen if some as powerful as Mikuni were to go bankrupt.

And lol at the teacher basically telling Kimimaro he got NTR'd. Reminded me of all the debate here.

[Jarmel]

Extremely interesting. We now see the repercussions of going bankrupt and damn if it isn't serious. I thought it would be more realistic but the reality altering aspect is so much worse. I'm wondering how Mikuni becomes the villain in the show but right now he seems to be the hero.

Also I have a feeling the selling thing will come back to bite Kimimaro in the rear, viciously I might add.

It seems like whatever reason you have for fighting, you lose if you go bankrupt.

[konart]

Originally Posted by Jarmel

It seems like whatever reason you have for fighting, you lose if you go bankrupt.

People die if they are killed, aha

[TheGeekHuntress]

Originally Posted by Jarmel

Extremely interesting. We now see the repercussions of going bankrupt and damn if it isn't serious. I thought it would be more realistic but the reality altering aspect is so much worse. I'm wondering how Mikuni becomes the villain in the show but right now he seems to be the hero.

Also I have a feeling the selling thing will come back to bite Kimimaro in the rear, viciously I might add.

It seems like whatever reason you have for fighting, you lose if you go bankrupt.

You know, I have yet to see Mikuni as the hero but I guess its due to the OP and I just don't like him. LOL. I do find him cute, though.

Yeah, when you lose, you lose your future which makes sense that you lose your life. Pretty harsh.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Originally Posted by Jarmel

I'm wondering how Mikuni becomes the villain in the show but right now he seems to be the hero..

You don't need to be a baby-eating villain in order to be the antagonist, you know . There's a load of things that could happen that'd set him in as the villain. For example, what if Kimimaro finds out aspects of Mikuni's plan that he doesn't like? Or if Mikuni should, say, bankrupt Hanabi if she becomes and entre and fights him (remember the guy from the first episode - Mikuni might not bankrupt those who are so powerful that doing so would cause huge ripples, but a nobody who would barely make any larger ripple in the real world?)?

Originally Posted by Jarmel

Also I have a feeling the selling thing will come back to bite Kimimaro in the rear, viciously I might add.

Possibly. Anyway, I think Mikuni either waits wants Kimimaro as a member of his group, or possibly as just a pawn. One could also possibly suspect that Mikuni wants Kimimaro as his protege or eventual successor.

[SquirrelLuvsPnut]

Soooooo..... no one is curious about the actual episode count?

[Jarmel]

Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

You don't need to be a baby-eating villain in order to be the antagonist, you know . There's a load of things that could happen that'd set him in as the villain. For example, what if Kimimaro finds out aspects of Mikuni's plan that he doesn't like? Or if Mikuni should, say, bankrupt Hanabi if she becomes and entre and fights him (remember the guy from the first episode - Mikuni might not bankrupt those who are so powerful that doing so would cause huge ripples, but a nobody who would barely make any larger ripple in the real world?)?

Well yes a multitude of things can happen but right now Mikuni does seem to have relatively good intentions and seems to go about things pretty fairly. I'm sure if he does become the antagonist there will be a good reason behind it.

Originally Posted by konart

People die if they are killed, aha

Well I view it as some people view their life as being the thing most valuable to them thus they lose it. The Professor viewed his children as being the reason he was fighting and he lost them too.

[Forsaken_Infinity]

Interesting episode.