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View Poll Results: Fate/Zero - Episode 11 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 87 | 50.88% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 54 | 31.58% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 14 | 8.19% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 4.09% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 1.75% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 3 | 1.75% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.58% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 1.17% | |
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2011-12-10, 15:28 | Link #44 |
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Shit episode. My god... ufotable gave us shit. Not just normal shit, but stinkingly bad one.
ufotable. You called this climax of the first cour? No. It was totally anticlamatic. You do this in place where you supposed to give the most tension and emotional development, along with various explanation for a lot of unexplained stuffs. Everything - CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT CUT... I can't even imagine how horrible it would... OH MY EYES... and... Sakuga. You said your staffs were not sleeping, Aoki Ei. I say this, SHAFT is better if you are going to do this. I would rather have you guys re-working on this episode for another week then having this shit. Such a horrible episode... just horrible.
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2011-12-10, 15:32 | Link #46 |
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Ok, I think we need a non-novel reader opinion to balance out this thread.
Personally I came here without knowing what to expect, and I was rewarded with an interesting diatribe that, while I don't agree with it it did shed a light on Gil, Saber and Ishkandar's character and made them all the more interesting. The second half, while Assassin;s arrival did feel a little disconnect it was impressive non the least. Personally I'm rather pleased with what I saw, and I'm looking forward to what ufotable has in store for the remaining episodes.
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2011-12-10, 15:43 | Link #48 | |
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The reason for Iskandar finding Saber was cut, The reason for Assassin coming was also cut, Gil's theory of becoming King was cut, characterisation of caster couple was cut......cut cut cut cut... Many important foreshadowings/ impacts/ plots points/ emotional devices were all cut, along with horrible direction with horrible Sakuga. That's why I'm calling this episode painful. At least I didn't do that.
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2011-12-10, 15:47 | Link #49 | |
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2011-12-10, 15:53 | Link #51 | |
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2011-12-10, 15:54 | Link #52 | |
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I do know they are planning to edit things on Blu-ray, but this is just too much. It's not just plot that is in trouble, it is script and direction itself, too. Those are not something that I expect to have it changed in BD. Caster part? That was actually, supposed to be in loli Rin or even before Loli Rin. Everything that made Uryuu one of my favourite psychopath character - was all cut. As I said, I can see nothing good with that excuse. At least SHAFT had all there scripts on properly. Fate/Zero? Cut just about everywhere. I can't accept that. I'm not buying BD if Aoki Ei is really working on that mind-set.
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2011-12-10, 16:00 | Link #55 | |
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And when I say cut, I don't mean "not animating the content at all", I mean things like TV-versions of movies where they edit out existing footage so that they could fit in the credits/commercials. This is the same thing. |
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2011-12-10, 16:14 | Link #56 | |
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I keep saying this - what presented in screen is what that matters. I also said this, there was more bad things other than cut that cannot be edited or changed unless they totally redo this episode - which cannot happen.
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2011-12-10, 16:23 | Link #57 |
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That was a damn good episode. And omg Gilgamesh....
I thought Rider was clowning everyone... but the biggest clown of them all was Gilamesh lol loved how he summoned the golden wine. But man, the little witty remarks Gil was throwing at Saber after Rider left was priceless. She was definitely wet. |
2011-12-10, 16:28 | Link #58 | |
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2011-12-10, 16:28 | Link #59 | |
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And again, if they hadn't padded the scene with Rin and adapted the story as-is, the scene would be cut anyway and we'd be having a different conversation about how ufotable ended the episode in the middle of a dialogue scene when it makes more sense to dedicate the entire episode as they did here. ufotable already stated that their goals for the series was to adapt it around the episodic television format, so they did. However, due to the restrictions of the format they had to make compromises to make it work for TV. It might piss you off since there's a lot cut out from the television broadcast, but the most important aspect of that scene was that dialogue between Rider and Saber. It works as a "television" adaptation, and the full version will be released later for people that want to watch everything. |
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2011-12-10, 16:31 | Link #60 |
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Nope. What appears on the blu-rays is what matters since that's ultimately the definitive version. I couldn't care less what did or didn't appear during the TV airing of an anime from 2001, since I'm only going to have access to the DVD release, anyway. If a scene was censored from the 2004 airing of Elfen Lied, for instance, then I don't know and I don't care. If these scenes aren't going to appear on the blu-rays then that's another matter, but given the evidence presented by Archer, that's highly doubtful. Anyway, great episode in my opinion. This more than made up for the disappointment that was episode 10.
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