2012-06-23, 11:13 | Link #821 |
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The sum of money isn't a small amount. It's quite literally a bag of gold/cash. And this seems to be the usual payment. How do they expect the weak underclass; which is where most of the victims to come from, to come up with such money if not through questionable means?
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2012-06-23, 13:47 | Link #822 |
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Okay I think we are assuming a little too much based on that woman. To begin with I'm sure prostitution was not necessary unless she really wanted the money that badly. She was desperate and driven by revenge and rather that work up money in a year or 2 in a decent job, but took this instead. This was not something NR forced on her, it was her decision. She could have went after Ogre herself during his off-duty hours (when he was drunk) if she wanted.
NR isn't a charity nor is it exclusively open to the poor. They're part of an anti-imperial force who's main mission is weaken the Empire little by little and gather intel under the direction of the Rebel Army with what limited resources they have. Their line of work is already dangerous made only more so by these side missions. Tatsumi himself nearly died in fight against Ogre and they just lost Schere in one of these requests. It's high risk job that require high pay, like most assassins for hire. They're not out to solve everybody's problems nor can they. NR can only give temporary relief to masses that's within their means until Revolution Army can move. Last edited by Iron Maw; 2012-06-23 at 15:09. |
2012-06-23, 15:04 | Link #823 |
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Iron Maw@ Agree with this. I think was pretty clear this part ,with what they explain in the manga itself.
Although i find pretty funny that some people question about Nr and that they take money and let Esdes and Seyriu get away with they deed or not say something about what they do. Hell the same can be say about Kurome after re-read i think she know full well as well about the empire and yet she just enjoy do what she do. |
2012-06-23, 15:19 | Link #824 |
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Despite we understand, we still find the pain. Prostitution wasn't always so dark as depicted in today's culture, it used to be a respectable position. Wish I was kidding, when I was taking World History in my first semester of college I read about all types cultures and it included prostitution. During the middle ages, the Roman Catholic Church tolerated prostitution despite saying any sexual activities out of marriage is sinful. They allowed it because they believe it would dispel the evils of lust which include Rape, Sodomy (Oral), and Masturbation. In the history of Asian countries, Oirans (Courtesans) where prostitution went to new heights which include the arts of poetry, dancing, calligraphy, music, and well of course sexual activities though sometimes they were not included. Back then they were treated as Royals, some of the famous ones can influence Warlords. In Greece, the practice of Prostitution was called sacred prostitution which was sexual activities in Temples as for worship to the gods. In folklore, it been said it given birth to some of the princes of Hell. Time has change of course where prostitution becoming incredibly dark.
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2012-06-23, 15:45 | Link #825 |
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Reaper@ I know what you mean and I agree.Call me naive or what you guys want ,but i always thought that *do that* is something that you have to do with only some one you really love and trust.Is not something you do with everyone ,though I know pretty well that in our time is not this big deal anymore(at least for most people).So you can understand from this that I'm really again rape and prostitution.Although i can understand why that woman do that to gain the money to hire NR.And I think Tatsumi and the other have understand this as well and that's why Tatsumi have that kind of face that time and decide that he want do the mission(other ,because the other thing he said).
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2012-06-23, 15:50 | Link #826 | |
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@Reaper Kingx, Eh, this all well and nice, but that doesn't have much to do with the current conversation which is about morality of NR. In this case NR would be best described as "Anti-Heros", much some of those in Jaeger are Anti-Villains. I don't think is much more to it then that. |
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2012-06-23, 15:54 | Link #827 |
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Generally Nightraid accepts Reality they are living, it is really not all cut and dry as some people say it. We call it innocence, where some people believe Heroes are like Superman. Nightraid are basically the opposite well they shared some characteristics with each other, and I agree on all points made by Soji. Sometimes you have to use all means to perform your duty, even if it is in a shade of Grey.
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2012-06-23, 15:54 | Link #828 |
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Iron Maw@ True. That's why I always say depends they cross the line and enjoy do so.
Well if you look on twtropes they are described like that. Though say that all or some of the Jaeger are Anti-Villian is a little too much.XD I don't remember Anti -villian title where Esdes ,Kurome and Syriuu would fit in. Though I do agree that Wave is Anti-villian for sure. I remember one title from Anti-villian where he would fit pretty well. Last edited by Soji; 2012-06-23 at 16:07. |
2012-06-23, 16:20 | Link #829 | |
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As for Seryuu, outside her Knight Templar tendencies she wouldn't be that bad. Very misguided (If not brainwashed) but it's not she will like kill you on spot for looking at her funny. She been well meaning in her community for the citizens like with Tatsumi. Kurome at this point isn't much different than what Akame was like when she still an Imperial assassin. She has brought as Assassin it's natural that killing wouldn't bother her. I'd say her mind-set is way it because she doesn't know much beyond that. Last edited by Iron Maw; 2012-06-23 at 16:32. |
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2012-06-23, 16:34 | Link #830 |
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Iron Maw@ Wait no get me wrong. I said I don't know what *kind of anti-villian* she and the other would be . No that she is only a monster.
You know that from what you know about a Character you can say she /he is grade 1,2 ,3 ecc type Anti -Villian /hero. I was just wondering where Esdes,Kurome and Syriuu would fit in. That's all. No that Esdes is only a monster ,though you had to admit that she is evens selfish. And before you answer that i do agree with what you say ...but she is also Selfish we see this with River from how she answer him . Also the example about Akame and Kurome is a little off. Is true both are assasin and akame was doing the same thing at Kurome do when she was with the empire. But from what I see the difference between the 2 are. Akame seem just do her job she don't seem enjoy killing. While Kurome does hell she even sing. For the rest , I agree with you. |
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2012-06-23, 17:36 | Link #833 | ||
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Iron Maw@ I don't say her free him was selfish. I mean .......
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I put the pag under spoiler because is big. Anyway re-read the last part ,you see her answer to him? I think that line show that she can be pretty selfish when she want. Quote:
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Because that it's her style and the way she is. I doubt she was different on how she is in NR( i mean the way she kill and what she think about that).Is not something that you really change. Is part of you. Also for me the way they act to gain that result can change my opionion toward them .While the result is the same ,if they enjoy kill is a big deal. deadlystrike@ Thank's for the info.I was waiting to read ch 21. |
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2012-06-23, 18:01 | Link #835 |
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deadlystrike@ Yeah I was suprise when I read his name. So he is a human teigu or something similar or his teigu his part of him. I'm a little confuse about this. Though I like read the part when they kill the doctor. So was Tatsumi to point out to Akame where she can cut him ,i thought from the raw ,that she was the one to chose where attack.
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Anyway very good chapter, too bad we didn't see the new girl in action though. Last edited by Iron Maw; 2012-06-23 at 20:26. |
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Edit :Also ch 22 out. Also the foreshadowing in the end is pretty scary.I suppose that minus Tatsumi and Akame that need to finish the job Spoiler for spoiler:
Seem to me that this ch really make the whole side part clear especially with what Esdes say to Syriuu. Last edited by Soji; 2012-06-24 at 02:44. |
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