2013-05-31, 10:06 | Link #121 | |
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And where could sakura get a major fight? Just about anywhere Naruto or kakashi got one. The easiest places to have given her a fight would have been Pain's invasion where there was a total of 7 people to fight (summoner Pain would have given Sakura plenty of chances to show off her strength, and Konan might have made for an interesting challenge if Sakura's punch was ineffective against her paper-like body), and the war where there was no end to the number of potential fights. Other times would have required nothing more than kishi inserting another minion for the villains into the mix; Akatsuki and Orochimaru could have simply had some more jounin-level minions to help give other characters a chance to fight, especially sakura Really, most other manga shonen writer don't have this problem. One Piece and Fairy Tail each have like a half-dozen or so characters to juggle and they always find something for them to do in every single arc. All it takes is a little extra forethought. Heck giving sakura's chances to fight wouldn't have even taken that much more time; Sasori took ten chapters, but not everyone of sakura's fights have to be that big and long... in total, sakura's extra fights(depending on how many more you give her) might have added only a few of months to the series 10+ year long run
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2013-05-31, 10:32 | Link #122 | |
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2013-05-31, 12:17 | Link #123 | |
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In this case people just can't stand Sakura because she's in love with Sasuke instead of Naruto, so anything she does will be viewed in a bad light. I really think that if it was Hinata that tried to kill Sasuke on her own for how he's treated Naruto and to end the issue of him being a wanted ninja, some of the same people who condemn Sakura for it would praise Hinata. The scene of Naruto swooping in and holding her in his arms would send them on a frenzy. |
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2013-05-31, 12:51 | Link #124 | |
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Even there her whole smashy smashy thing is technically impressive but boring. Change her few pages of useless chatter into a cinematic composition of her running through the ranks of monsters tearing off limbs, slapping heads off shoulders, destroying the ground just to catch huge boulders off the air and use it as projectiles to crush the Juubimon or bury them underground. Make her purposely take deep wounds in order to protect her comrades and destroy her opponents, healing the damage with one hand while crushing her foes with the other without taking pause. And while she does all that (and it can be easily done in only two 2-3 pages) have Naruto and/or Sasuke react as if was just par for the course, something expected of her instead of surprising. Only then have her reveal her seal and show her do things truly humongous and jaw dropping for all the Alliance like baby shake the Juubi. No need for chakra scalpel or stuff like that, super strength in itself can give an endless supply of variety if used correctly. I mean would you rather see an Nth Rasengan from Sage-mode Naruto or a scene where he stops a Juubimoon punch with one hand, crush its fist into mush and use one of its mangled claw to split its own head before throwing the body so hard that it pierces through the Juubi's hide like a bullet? But anyway this chapter is just one instance among hundreds of chapter because beside the whole drama between shippers Sakura's main problem is that except for the Sasori fight her feats in part 2 up until now are to be knocked out by Kabuto's ass and by random rocks. To fail her objectives and require saving from the "real" ninja passing by and generally to be used as an off panel band-aid. Replace that with a few combats every now and then with meaningful and entertaining interventions helping to defeat the antagonists and her character would be mostly fine even if most people would be angry with her because she wouldn't rub herself against Naruto's leg like Hinata or at the very least express distaste at Sasuke's sight which always make for a popular stance. |
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tho technically the seal has to be activated for her to be that buck wild 2)exactly. super strength is enough. (still not sure why superman needed eye beams j/k
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2013-05-31, 14:01 | Link #126 | ||
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I usually don't even complain any more because of such things, often it's made obvious from the begining that someone will be used as a plot device in a scene or battle, and of course those who like that character can't do anything else than complain in the forums. For example Kabuto was insanely strong in his last battle, he could have beaten almost anyone alone, and if he even combined his power with a few of his kage level edo tensei zombies he would be able to beat anyone (the 5 kages he could beat easily), yet when Kishimoto decided that he has to face Itachi and Sasuke it became obvious that poor Kabuto can't show off how powerful he became, not even once. I was informed just a few days ago that those beams are very important: he can't shave his beard without those beams |
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2013-05-31, 14:07 | Link #127 | ||
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2013-05-31, 15:08 | Link #128 | |
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No, I revealed the reason why I feel nothing one way or the other for her character. That's how she could have been decent, as it is she is a waste of panel.
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2013-05-31, 16:22 | Link #129 |
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In many ways Naruto has changed from a (anywhere but Japan) 16+ to an 12+.
- The way how painful and tragic Haku and Zabuza died.... was rarely seen again. - How quickly and without any mercy fodder was slain by Gaara in the woods. Even after begging. - How Orochimaru in the woods seemed like a true kid molester. A pedophile. How he caused fear in Kakashi... making him tremble being unable to take action... Changed to... dbz where everyone got revived. Yes.. i've read most of the posts here and it is weird why they didnt open the barrier and attacked the Juubi with everything they had. (Long range attacks obviously). With another one bomb like that everyone of them will be reduced to dust. As some said: Madara no longer seems to care about what happens. Now everyone wants to become Hokage. The cheerfull faces even though thousands have died, their parents and friend Neji. Didnt seem to affect anyone after Sasuke joined in. Sasuke who also seems to have not changed at all. Dont get in my way bla bla. Naruto yelling and bragging again. Sakura having her glory and shining periode for just 2-3 pages. Then gets saved again. I am now slightly certain that Madara never wanted to destroy the world with his plan or just put everyone into some fantasy. It's just that he wanted someone to bring back Hashirama and Hashirama would only fight him seriously when the world would be in some sort of danger. Madara still somehow being a good guy. Just like Danzou. It's a matter of perspective. The possibilities that Sakura, Naruto and Sasuke become jounin-sensei's has been reduced to something that is illogical because of their insane abilities. All three of them poses abilities to reduce a village or small village to nothing but air. Sakura just punches a new grand canyon, Naruto can bijuu dama and nuke it... Sasuke can just burn it down for 7 days with Amaterasu.
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2013-05-31, 18:14 | Link #130 | |
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2- Kabutomaru did a lot of that recently. kisame slaughtered his team. hidan mowed down fodder and sacrificed them to his religion 3-he's still a pedo. just check the kabuto backstory 4-the fear thing is mostly gone but i think that would get stale after a while. especially since all the main characters are now at top levels. pain did it to kakashi and jiraiya a little. sasuke did it to sai and cee |
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2013-05-31, 18:51 | Link #132 | ||||
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Also you ever heard the phrase, "the best defense is a good offense"? If you can defeat an enemy early on, then he will hurt far fewer people and thus doctors won't need to heal as many people. Its something that kinda comes up when dealing with combat medics, especially when they are really powerful... Heck in other stories you might have a really powerful combat medic sitting on the sidelines doing nothing so they can heal the wounded, but as it turns out they probably could have prevented a lot of the damage had they fought because they are indeed, powerful enough to effect the battle. Another good combat medic would be Chopper from one piece and he ALWAYS gets fights while finding time to also take care of the wounded... for a medic their place is on the sideline, but combat medics can be a bit more flexible, especially in a shonen series; they can be where ever the author wants them to be whether it be healing the wounded, or fighting the enemy on the frontlines... and unfortunately for Sakura, Kishi decided to just keep her on the sidelines where no one could see her and give her no chance to show off her fighting ability Quote:
And really, the Pain invasion is not the only place. She has accompanied other characters into the field plenty of times that could have given her a fight if Kishi just added one more villain/minion to the mix. Like the battle at the bridge; Kishi could have used the bridge battle to be the introduction to sasuke's minions later on such as Karin and Suigestu. Karin's own obsession with sasuke could have lead to her and sakura having something of an antagonistic comedic rivalry that in turn could have actually gotten interesting after Karin is betrayed by sasuke and captured by the leaf. Suigestu on the other hand could have proved an interesting challenge for Sakura given his water like body makes him more resistant to brute force. Or Heck Sakura could have gone up against Kabuto; that fight could have acted as a call back to tsunade's fight with him... or orochimaru could have had anyother random minion. Same goes for Akatsuki; we know its not unheard of for the members to have jounin level minions and thus a fight against one or two akatsuki could have easily turned into a fight against 3 or 4 villains, thus giving Sakura someone to fight and show off I'd also note that sakura does not have to beat all of these people once and for all. She could win only for them to escape; they could fight to until their fight is interruppted and/or cut short... heck she could even LOOSE and still get credit so long as she put up a REALLY good fight (people enjoyed rock lee's fights against Garra and Kimimaro despite the fact that he lost both fights) Only a very small amount of rewritting a fore-thought would have been needed to give sakura the fights readers wanted to see. Quote:
Though what i did take issue with was Minato's Kyuubi-mode... that didn't make much sense at all considering that he was never a host for the kyuubi and the only reason Naruto was able to achieve such power was through his friendly relationship with the kyuubi. I mean how would minato even know he COULD do that much less how he did it; I mean konoha didn't even know that kind of control over the demons was possible since naruto had to learn it from the Cloud... Though i would have been nice for Naturo to have that was truly unique to himself, especially since kyuubi mode kinda shows how far Naruto has come since the kyuubi started off as a curse for him Quote:
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2013-05-31, 19:35 | Link #133 | |
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2013-05-31, 21:40 | Link #134 | |
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All of the named characters indeed died a tragic death but they really gave a good fight. Sometimes.... characters really dont stand a chance. Like Shizune who got her soul ripped out... but... the effect disappeared because she was brought back. Minato, Kushina, Asuma, Itachi, Zabuza and Haku died in a way where i could feel that it was really sad. The other deaths didnt move me that much. Probably because of the impact. Life is just too short and too unexpected especially if you face life and death situations but the endings are so predictable. Anyway... you brought up very good points and i agree with you.
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2013-05-31, 22:13 | Link #135 | ||
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but u may be right. minato simply sealed the kyuubis chakra within himself, while sealing the actual kyuubi in naruto. his process was much like the tug-of-war naruto had in the tail beast shrine, where he was able to use the nine tails chakra without consent... and as far as konoha not knowing how to tame the nine tails previously, im not so sure... every since it was mentioned that mito uzumaki could sense murderous intent ive wonder whether she had the glowy mode as well. madara, hashirama, and tobirama have all seen narutos/minatos cloak and no one has provided any insight so maybe she didn't.
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2013-06-01, 00:59 | Link #137 | |
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2. im thinking his version has a limit since naruto has the actual kyuubi who takes time out to knead chakra. 3. yes madara mopped the floor with the 5 kages, but what about the 5 HOkages!! show him that will of fire is real son! 4. if sasuke is not good for real, im calling flame sword/itachi dream sword to hashiramas back. the exact scene when he "killed' madara
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Naruto is silly kids' show and super annoying. It's even morally twisted.
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