(CR) White Album 2

[Akito Kinomoto]

You know what?

I rather liked White Album until the finale of the second half. I'll keep tabs on this thread and see if the ending isn't so bad.

[SaintessHeart]

Originally Posted by Natsu_

Yes.
There is no direct relationship between them.


Information that has been decided
Broadcasting season : This autumn

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all 13 episodes, only IC

There is. The songs. SOUND OF DESTINY and White Album will still be the character songs.

But what I want to hear is Tsuduru Omoi. But what I am really looking forward to is how they deal with the sudden changes in Opening and Closing Chapters.

[Shadow5YA]

The only thing I'll miss about White Album 1 is Nana Mizuki singing.

[relentlessflame]

I've had to hide multiple pages worth of posts because they're completely littered with game spoilers, and our Spoiler Policy is quite clear that no spoilers are allowed in anime threads (even behind spoiler tags). I may restore some of the posts after I have the chance to sort through them all in detail. I'd ask in the meantime that all the game players please create a game thread where this sort of discussion can continue.

[winkel]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

I've had to hide multiple pages worth of posts because they're completely littered with game spoilers, and our Spoiler Policy is quite clear that no spoilers are allowed in anime threads (even behind spoiler tags). I may restore some of the posts after I have the chance to sort through them all in detail. I'd ask in the meantime that all the game players please create a game thread where this sort of discussion can continue.

Can you modify them to just include the anime discussion posts? Because I think it was really more mixed instead of straight up game discussion in the posts...

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by winkel

Can you modify them to just include the anime discussion posts? Because I think it was really more mixed instead of straight up game discussion in the posts...

I'm not saying that I can't, but it's going to take some time to go through them all and clean it up. It's too intermingled.

Anyway, it's hidden for the moment until I can go through it.

[creb]

So, Romi Park's character isn't going to be in this one?

I mean, if I was this fictional protagonist, she'd have been the only one for me.

[Yume no Hana]

Originally Posted by creb

So, Romi Park's character isn't going to be in this one?

I mean, if I was this fictional protagonist, she'd have been the only one for me.

Romi Park? What do you mea... ah do you mean Shinozuka Yayoi from White Album? She won't be in WA2 because WA2 took place 10 years after WA and had almost no connection with WA except from three songs.

btw, listen to WA2's OST again today and once again realize how much better WA2's bgm is compared with WA1's despite its inferior vocal songs (or singers?).
My favorite track is "Kotoba dekinai omoi", the most emotional bgm in WA2 imo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAHYTrRxJPA

[Mazryonh]

When was the last time Hitomi Nabatame (Kazusa's seiyuu) had a starring role? It'll be great to hear her as a main character in this series--too bad she doesn't sing.

And I'm glad that Madoka Yonezawa's fortunes have improved, from being a supporting character in K-ON! to a main character in a series that also gets to showcase her singing talents. Still a mystery why she signed on for the original eroge though, given how much of a career liability that seems to be for female seiyuus in Japan . . .

[Key Board]

oh really?

I had the impression that a lot of seiyuu are doing eroge roles. Albeit under an alias

The best recent example I can think of is this game

http://www.eukleia.co.jp/eushully/eu14/eu14_des.html

Star cast there.. all under aliases.

and before this, there was Majikoi

I don't think otaku really care about "2D" shenanigans.
I think they only make a huge deal if the seiyuu is caught having a real boyfriend, and if that seiyuu is also an idol.

Also, didn't Kuribayashi Minami get her big start by voicing Suzumiya Haruka from Kimi ga Nozomu Eien?

edit:

http://www.kenproduction.co.jp/member.php?mem=w42

This site says that Nabatame Hitomi's most recent major role is Cure Heart from Doki Doki Precure. (Precure is a huge franchise)

[winkel]

Originally Posted by Yume no Hana

btw, listen to WA2's OST again today and once again realize how much better WA2's bgm is compared with WA1's despite its inferior vocal songs (or singers?).

I think it just strikes different notes... to me the most memorable songs (aside from the dramatic pieces) in WA2 are... the ones they ripped from WA1.

[Key Board]

Todokanai Koi is awesome

But yeah, I must say I don't remember any other WA2 exclusive vocal songs
maybe it's because of Todokanai Koi having too much of an impact?

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[hyl]

Originally Posted by Key Board

oh really?

I had the impression that a lot of seiyuu are doing eroge roles. Albeit under an alias

The best recent example I can think of is this game

http://www.eukleia.co.jp/eushully/eu14/eu14_des.html

Star cast there.. all under aliases.

Lots of seiyuu do voice eroges , but only the ones who seem to get less or no work or "newbie" seiyuu's. You won't be hearing too many " recent all star" seiyuu's in eroges unless they have done that prior becoming "famous"

You are severly exaggerating to call this a "star cast", because the only 3 noticable seiyuu's are Miki Shinichiro , Wakamoto Norio and Touma Yumi and all of these seiyuu don't even do that much voicework these days. Also neither of these 3 seiyuu's regularly voices for eroges.

And eventhough i have heard of most of the regular "eroge seiyuu cast" from this game, i don't even think this is a star seiyuu cast under eroge standards, because the only few "famous" ones are "Kitami Rikka" and "Kawashima Rino" and atmost a few more.

[Mazryonh]

Originally Posted by Key Board

I had the impression that a lot of seiyuu are doing eroge roles. Albeit under an alias.

Male seiyuus don't normally count for this, because for the vast majority of the time, they're not the ones who have to make (censored) noises.

You won't find super-famous seiyuu like Nana Mizuki or Yoko Hikasa caught dead voicing eroge or H-OVAs. And just look at how much flak the otakus give seiyuu who prove "less than pure," like Aya Hirano, or Aki Toyosaki who was confirmed to be living with her boyfriend Tom H@ck, or even Ayana Taketatsu who was spotted with a man (the otakus didn't even confirm the man's relationship, if any, to her before heaping abuse on her reputation).

Originally Posted by Key Board

And before this, there was Majikoi

The most famous female seiyuus in Majikoi who have to make (censored) noises are Yuu Asakawa and Shizuka Itou, and they still have to publicly deny ever acting in the 18+ versions. A damn shame, considering they're only using their voices--they're not pornographic actresses by any means.

Originally Posted by Key Board

Also, didn't Kuribayashi Minami get her big start by voicing Suzumiya Haruka from Kimi ga Nozomu Eien?

I believe Minami Kuribayashi is an exceptional case, and besides, have you seen her voicing major characters in any major anime series lately?

The situation for eroge voice actresses is normally much bleaker. Look at Ryouko Tanaka (AKA "Hikaru Isshiki") and Harumi Sakurai (AKA "Kazane"), who starred alongside each other and Ami Koshimizu for H2O: Footprints in the Sand. Tanaka's and Sakurai's acting abilities are beyond reproach (especially the latter's who starred as Yurippe in Angel Beats!), and yet they've hardly appeared in anime outside of 18+ OVAs and eroge adaptations. It's a crying shame.

Originally Posted by Key Board

This site says that Nabatame Hitomi's most recent major role is Cure Heart from Doki Doki Precure. (Precure is a huge franchise)

I stand corrected. Still, White Album 2 will be a nice new opportunity for Hitomi Nabatame to use her deeper voice rather than her cutesy high-pitched voice. If I had to choose between the two main heroines, I'd have to say I'm a fan of Kazusa.

[Key Board]

Originally Posted by hyl

Lots of seiyuu do voice eroges , but only the ones who seem to get less or no work or "newbie" seiyuu's. You won't be hearing too many " recent all star" seiyuu's in eroges unless they have done that prior becoming "famous"

You are severly exaggerating to call this a "star cast", because the only 3 noticable seiyuu's are Miki Shinichiro , Wakamoto Norio and Touma Yumi and all of these seiyuu don't even do that much voicework these days. Also neither of these 3 seiyuu's regularly voices for eroges.

And eventhough i have heard of most of the regular "eroge seiyuu cast" from this game, i don't even think this is a star seiyuu cast under eroge standards, because the only few "famous" ones are "Kitami Rikka" and "Kawashima Rino" and atmost a few more.

Ok, I admit it's not an all star cast like Majikoi.

but, there's also Mizuhashi Kaori doing this
http://www.eukleia.co.jp/eushully/eu...eu14_ch04.html

and Keiji Fujiwara doing this
http://www.eukleia.co.jp/eushully/eu...eu14_ch11.html

and I think there's Eri Kitamura in there somewhere

[hyl]

Originally Posted by Key Board

Ok, I admit it's not an all star cast like Majikoi.

but, there's also Mizuhashi Kaori doing this
http://www.eukleia.co.jp/eushully/eu...eu14_ch04.html

and Keiji Fujiwara doing this
http://www.eukleia.co.jp/eushully/eu...eu14_ch11.html

and I think there's Eri Kitamura in there somewhere

Missed Fujiware Keji, because i didn't bother listening to all the male characters while there are so many female ones
Mizuhashi Kaori is "more well-known", eventhough personally i don't think she should be listed as "famous" especially next to the 4 seiyuu's who were mentioned earlier.
I don't think i have heard KitaEri among any characters and i doubt she is doing any roles for eroges because she is popular enough to get regular anime roles

edit: because this doesn't deserve it's own post
Why are we almost going almost off topic with this ? The talk about how famous seiyuu's are is fairly pointless because White album 2 doesn't even have that well-known seiyuu's in it.

[Key Board]

Originally Posted by Mazryonh

Male seiyuus don't normally count for this, because for the vast majority of the time, they're not the ones who have to make (censored) noises.

You won't find super-famous seiyuu like Nana Mizuki or Yoko Hikasa caught dead voicing eroge or H-OVAs. And just look at how much flak the otakus give seiyuu who prove "less than pure," like Aya Hirano, or Aki Toyosaki who was confirmed to be living with her boyfriend Tom H@ck, or even Ayana Taketatsu who was spotted with a man (the otakus didn't even confirm the man's relationship, if any, to her before heaping abuse on her reputation).

I might be wrong, but as I said, it seems that otaku only give a damn if the seiyuu is an idol and is caught being with a real life man.

And Nana Mizuki has done at least one semi lewd scene. You can find it on nico nico douga.

The most famous female seiyuus in Majikoi who have to make (censored) noises are Yuu Asakawa and Shizuka Itou, and they still have to publicly deny ever acting in the 18+ versions. A damn shame, considering they're only using their voices--they're not pornographic actresses by any means.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. There's no need to deny it being a duck, I say.

I believe Minami Kuribayashi is an exceptional case, and besides, have you seen her voicing major characters in any major anime series lately?

I believe this is because she wanted to focus on her singing career and hope to one day perform for Gundam.. which she did.. (too bad it had to be Gundam AGE)

The situation for eroge voice actresses is normally much bleaker. Look at Ryouko Tanaka (AKA "Hikaru Isshiki") and Harumi Sakurai (AKA "Kazane"), who starred alongside each other and Ami Koshimizu for H2O: Footprints in the Sand. Tanaka's and Sakurai's acting abilities are beyond reproach (especially the latter's who starred as Yurippe in Angel Beats!), and yet they've hardly appeared in anime outside of 18+ OVAs and eroge adaptations. It's a crying shame.

I see. Quite a shame indeed. But is it because of their supposed association with eroge or is it because H20 and Angel Beats anime really aren't that good?

I stand corrected. Still, White Album 2 will be a nice new opportunity for Hitomi Nabatame to use her deeper voice rather than her cutesy high-pitched voice. If I had to choose between the two main heroines, I'd have to say I'm a fan of Kazusa.

I just noticed that she also played Cryska from Muvluv TE earlier. I knew that voice was familiar.

But anyway, yes, I know there is a certain line female performers must not cross. It's unfair like that. And this is basically the premise behind the first White Album and the recent arc in Bakuman. But to my knowledge it only applies to things they do in real life. I'm not sure.

[Kirayuki]

Originally Posted by Mazryonh

Male seiyuus don't normally count for this, because for the vast majority of the time, they're not the ones who have to make (censored) noises.

Not really, male seiyuu use alias too in eroge regardless what his role in the game. You don't even have to count the famous one like Wakamoto Norio or Shinichiro Miki, minor male seiyuu even use alias in eroge. The only possibility for one that doesn't use alias is probably someone who only have a few roles (in eroge world) or someone who just barely started. The general rule is if you ever hear that guy's voice several times in other works, most likely he will use alias whenever he do the next role in an eroge.

It is more about the fact that you are appearing in 18+ game rather than what role you do in that game.

[Nachtwandler]

Originally Posted by hyl

And eventhough i have heard of most of the regular "eroge seiyuu cast" from this game, i don't even think this is a star seiyuu cast under eroge standards, because the only few "famous" ones are "Kitami Rikka" and "Kawashima Rino" and atmost a few more.

BTW. I feel really bad that Rino Kawashima/Kei Mizusawa didn't get any real anime roles. She is great seiyuu IMHO.

[Mazryonh]

Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

BTW. I feel really bad that Rino Kawashima/Kei Mizusawa didn't get any real anime roles. She is great seiyuu IMHO.

I'll see that and raise you Mio Yasuda, whose only mainstream role of note is Yui Tabata from H2O: Footprints in the Sand. She has some nice eroge roles, such as Kazuna Kouzuki from Innocent Grey's Cartagra--in fact she plays the sunny and flowing-with-cheerfulness Kazuna and her yandere twin sister very well. Too bad she remains an undiscovered gem.

Originally Posted by Kirayuki

Not really, male seiyuu use alias too in eroge regardless what his role in the game. It is more about the fact that you are appearing in 18+ game rather than what role you do in that game.

Funny, I would think someone like Akira Ishida hasn't had his professional prospects diminished by his participation in H-OVAs.

Originally Posted by Key Board

And Nana Mizuki has done at least one semi-lewd scene. You can find it on nico nico douga.

I'll see that and raise you Youko Hikasa's rather suggestive promo for episode 10 of the first season of Seikon no Qwaser. I take it something like wouldn't be out of place for an eroge with a masochistic female character.

Originally Posted by Key Board

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. There's no need to deny it being a duck, I say.

To my knowledge the only "Western equivalent" is "Suzetta Minet" (widely speculated to in fact be Jodi Benson's pseudonym), who provided the English voice of EVA, the "Bond girl" heroine from Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater and its related games with that character.

But I think the shame that seiyuus get for making (censored) noises is just stupid.

Originally Posted by Key Board

I believe this is because she wanted to focus on her singing career and hope to one day perform for Gundam.. which she did.. (too bad it had to be Gundam AGE)

That's the funny thing about fame; it gives you opportunities, but not always the opportunities you want, or even the ones that will benefit you.

Originally Posted by Key Board

I see. Quite a shame indeed. But is it because of their supposed association with eroge or is it because H20 and Angel Beats anime really aren't that good?

H2O was popular when it was sold as a kinetic novel. But I don't know how much the anime adaptation sold. And I was under the impression that Angel Beats! was very well-received.

In any case, I do hope that Madoka Yonezawa and Yoriko Nagata (Setsuna's and Koharu's seiyuus in WA2, respectively) don't get too much flak from having had to make (censored) noises for the original game, and that their fortunes will improve after the entire WA2 anime has aired.