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Nanya01 · 2013-03-29, 07:45

Um, yeah, Uno... Olivie was kind of super rape, Vivio's her clone, but not her.

Not to mention that Vivio had to have a Relic AND the Cradle powering her up in StrikerS AND the AMF field to do what she did.

Keroko · 2013-03-29, 08:08

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Originally Posted by Uno Scaglietti

You forget Keroko Olvie was that powerful without the Cradle or her saint kaiser armor

..... No she wasn't? Seriously, where do you get that?

Olive was powerful, sure, but there's no hints anywhere that she was this superpowerful god-empress you claim her to be.

Uno Scaglietti · 2013-03-29, 08:45

Well I'm obviously not saying that the current Vivio is all powerful I'm just saying that she has the potential to even be more badass the nanoha or anyone in the franchise is while still not making her mary sue the ff 8 wannebe's just aren't doing it for me they use broken powers and relay purely on that over used concept

Keroko is established that using the Cradle is pretty much akin to suicide there for by logical Olvie could not have gained her reputation by relaying on a ship that would pretty much kill her she has no control once she actually gets on the throne its like being a puppet as claus put it so by that logic her power and reputation had nothing to do with the cradle it self it was merely the Ultimate weapon on which to actually end the war but it required a sacrifice that hunts Einhart even to this day

remember her legend don't come from using the cradle her term Saint King most likely comes from ending the war her legend as the ultimate warrior most likely came from actually fighting

and saying Vivio will have a peaceful life is unlikely all hints to the Saint War restarting is actually there depending on how they write the story force may not ultimately matter in terms of story telling the whole ff 8 wannabe's may ultimately end up falling into the saint war if anything vivid will mostly just be the for shadowing but keeping the darker elements to force since it takes place like 2 years later

Lhklan · 2013-03-29, 08:53

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Originally Posted by Uno Scaglietti

Well I'm obviously not saying that the current Vivio is all powerful I'm just saying that she has the potential to even be more badass the nanoha or anyone in the franchise is while still not making her mary sue the ff 8 wannebe's just aren't doing it for me they use broken powers and relay purely on that over used concept

Yeah, she have the potential. Problem is, if I remember correctly, she wished to become a scholar. So chances are that her full potential won't be accessed.

As for the FF8 wannabes as you calls them... they're just too hax for me to care. Except for the hot ones. Hey, I'm a guy. What do you expect?

Uno Scaglietti · 2013-03-29, 08:57

nah she wants to master striker arts despite the fact that people keep insisting she's not suitable for it since she maybe lost her Saint Kaiser armor which i always found kinda weird since her Data card after Strikerx actually state that Saint Kaiser Armor is actually one of her Abilties

Keroko · 2013-03-29, 09:08

Uno, I'm carrying this over to the Vivid thread, if you don't mind. It's more appropriate there.

Uno Scaglietti · 2013-03-29, 09:09

that's fine sorry if I seem insistent but it's most likely this will all tie over anyway that or it's one of my many insane ideas

Keroko · 2013-03-29, 09:17

Right, carrying over.

Justin_Brett · 2013-03-29, 12:09

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Olivie was kind of super rape

Super rare, surely?

Rising Dragon · 2013-03-29, 12:18

Pretty sure he meant rape. Whatever Olivie was, she most certainly had to be a powerful and dangerous combatant.

00-Raiser · 2013-04-02, 17:07

Spoiler for 30:

Sansker · 2013-04-02, 17:18

So Eclipse Drivers can lose limbs like one loses nails, being stab, shot, set in fire and have their hearts pull out of their chest without any of that being more than a minor problem. Well… there it goes my hopes that something good will came from Hardis powers. Now is all downhill from here. Still a part of me hopes Veyron just combust in to ashes.

LostSome · 2013-04-02, 17:28

Hardis is so arrogant ! So kill him already !

lol at Veyron`s shirtless.
So Curren is shrinking and Fortis got surprising big(I don`t remember him being this tall).
So Veyron`s heart is still beating ! Crap !

Keroko · 2013-04-02, 17:36

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Originally Posted by Sansker

So Eclipse Drivers can lose limbs like one loses nails, being stab, shot, set in fire and have their hearts pull out of their chest without any of that being more than a minor problem. Well… there it goes my hopes that something good will came from Hardis powers. Now is all downhill from here. Still a part of me hopes Veyron just combust in to ashes.

Eclipse users are like zombies. You gotta aim for the head.

00-Raiser · 2013-04-02, 17:38

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Originally Posted by Sansker

So Eclipse Drivers can lose limbs like one loses nails, being stab, shot, set in fire and have their hearts pull out of their chest without any of that being more than a minor problem. Well… there it goes my hopes that something good will came from Hardis powers. Now is all downhill from here. Still a part of me hopes Veyron just combust in to ashes.

Actually, no. If you paid attention to my post, you'd see that I said Veyron was badly injured. He's is in pretty bad shape, what with blood gushing from the huge hole in his chest. He's all bandaged up, and Fortis and Stella were even going to operate on him (though they might have been teasing him). At any rate, Veyron certainly didn't just shrug off losing his heart.

Sansker · 2013-04-02, 17:46

He is still talking when he get his heart pull out. How you even operate that? Don’t give me that “bad wounded” thing. He might be in pain but he is still running like business is usual. That wasn’t a blade in the guts, that was his heart out. I still consider that to be a bit too much for this show. I mean, you can pretty much make the inside of an Eclipse Driver in to mush and they will be fine in a couple of days. Well at least that explain why Fate actually impale Currenn with her blade without hesitation.

So next time Hardis better takes someone’s head, if is the Grendel family even better.

Keroko · 2013-04-02, 17:50

Vita fought her way through an entire Cradle's worth of stealth drones and the reactor's defense system with a gaping hole in her torso. Veyron's being a pussy by comparison. Near-humans surviving lethal wounds is nothing new.

NorthernFallout · 2013-04-02, 18:05

Plot-armor and magic power beyond h4x levels.

Not that weird, this is Nanoverse after all.

00-Raiser · 2013-04-02, 18:11

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Originally Posted by Sansker

He is still talking when he get his heart pull out. How you even operate that? Don’t give me that “bad wounded” thing. He might be in pain but he is still running like business is usual. That wasn’t a blade in the guts, that was his heart out.

It's serious enough that his family has to knock him out so he doesn't make it worse. That should give you a good idea of the severity of it.

Kaijo · 2013-04-02, 18:27

I'll grant that Veyron is a wee bit tough. But as Keroko noted, it's nothing we haven't seen before, with Vita. Veyron is non-human, as Vita is. That opens the door to being able to survive things that normal humans can't.

Remember, the heart is just used to mainly pump blood throughout his system (well, a bit more than that, but this is a light explanation). It is possible the Eclipse virus can cause his veins and arteries to manually contract and move the blood on their own. I wouldn't think it would be something he could survive forever in, though. And given the reaction I'm hearing about, it is likely that the Hucks know this, too. Next chapter will probably have them making plans to get the heart back, or get a replacement.

2013-03-29, 07:45	Link #7781
Nanya01 Left for TFF Author Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Frozen Hell of the North Age: 41	Um, yeah, Uno... Olivie was kind of super rape, Vivio's her clone, but not her. Not to mention that Vivio had to have a Relic AND the Cradle powering her up in StrikerS AND the AMF field to do what she did. __________________ My fics Due to certain things, I am not here, find me over on TFF.

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Uno Scaglietti Jail's Alter Ego Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: ラブソウルム Age: 42	Well I'm obviously not saying that the current Vivio is all powerful I'm just saying that she has the potential to even be more badass the nanoha or anyone in the franchise is while still not making her mary sue the ff 8 wannebe's just aren't doing it for me they use broken powers and relay purely on that over used concept Keroko is established that using the Cradle is pretty much akin to suicide there for by logical Olvie could not have gained her reputation by relaying on a ship that would pretty much kill her she has no control once she actually gets on the throne its like being a puppet as claus put it so by that logic her power and reputation had nothing to do with the cradle it self it was merely the Ultimate weapon on which to actually end the war but it required a sacrifice that hunts Einhart even to this day remember her legend don't come from using the cradle her term Saint King most likely comes from ending the war her legend as the ultimate warrior most likely came from actually fighting and saying Vivio will have a peaceful life is unlikely all hints to the Saint War restarting is actually there depending on how they write the story force may not ultimately matter in terms of story telling the whole ff 8 wannabe's may ultimately end up falling into the saint war if anything vivid will mostly just be the for shadowing but keeping the darker elements to force since it takes place like 2 years later __________________ "Screw the Rules, I Have Science!" "My opinions are never fact they are in fact opinions" "I always told father this would end badly he never listens to him self. "

2013-03-29, 08:57	Link #7785
Uno Scaglietti Jail's Alter Ego Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: ラブソウルム Age: 42	nah she wants to master striker arts despite the fact that people keep insisting she's not suitable for it since she maybe lost her Saint Kaiser armor which i always found kinda weird since her Data card after Strikerx actually state that Saint Kaiser Armor is actually one of her Abilties __________________ "Screw the Rules, I Have Science!" "My opinions are never fact they are in fact opinions" "I always told father this would end badly he never listens to him self. "

2013-03-29, 09:09	Link #7787
Uno Scaglietti Jail's Alter Ego Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: ラブソウルム Age: 42	that's fine sorry if I seem insistent but it's most likely this will all tie over anyway that or it's one of my many insane ideas __________________ "Screw the Rules, I Have Science!" "My opinions are never fact they are in fact opinions" "I always told father this would end badly he never listens to him self. "

2013-03-29, 12:18	Link #7790
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Pretty sure he meant rape. Whatever Olivie was, she most certainly had to be a powerful and dangerous combatant. __________________

2013-03-29, 09:08	Link #7786
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Uno, I'm carrying this over to the Vivid thread, if you don't mind. It's more appropriate there.

2013-03-29, 09:17	Link #7788
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Right, carrying over.

2013-04-02, 17:07	Link #7791
00-Raiser Burst Mode Author Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 37	Spoiler for 30: Veyron is badly injured after getting his heart ripped out. His heart is donated to SCIENCE. Curren's staying in fun size mode. Veyron doesn't want to stay in bed despite the protests of others. 5th stands up for him and we finally get to see her face. Fortis just knocks him out with a judo chop anyways. __________________

2013-04-02, 17:18	Link #7792
Sansker Manus ad Ferrum Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Costa Rica Age: 33	So Eclipse Drivers can lose limbs like one loses nails, being stab, shot, set in fire and have their hearts pull out of their chest without any of that being more than a minor problem. Well… there it goes my hopes that something good will came from Hardis powers. Now is all downhill from here. Still a part of me hopes Veyron just combust in to ashes. __________________

2013-04-02, 17:28	Link #7793
LostSome Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Canada	Hardis is so arrogant ! So kill him already ! lol at Veyron`s shirtless. So Curren is shrinking and Fortis got surprising big(I don`t remember him being this tall). So Veyron`s heart is still beating ! Crap ! __________________ Nyohohohoho ! It`s the law of the universe that only wizards die as virgins. You can`t let yourself die as a virgin, right ? -Old geezer.

2013-04-02, 17:46	Link #7796
Sansker Manus ad Ferrum Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Costa Rica Age: 33	He is still talking when he get his heart pull out. How you even operate that? Don’t give me that “bad wounded” thing. He might be in pain but he is still running like business is usual. That wasn’t a blade in the guts, that was his heart out. I still consider that to be a bit too much for this show. I mean, you can pretty much make the inside of an Eclipse Driver in to mush and they will be fine in a couple of days. Well at least that explain why Fate actually impale Currenn with her blade without hesitation. So next time Hardis better takes someone’s head, if is the Grendel family even better. __________________

2013-04-02, 17:50	Link #7797
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Vita fought her way through an entire Cradle's worth of stealth drones and the reactor's defense system with a gaping hole in her torso. Veyron's being a pussy by comparison. Near-humans surviving lethal wounds is nothing new. Last edited by Keroko; 2013-04-02 at 18:07.

2013-04-02, 18:05	Link #7798
NorthernFallout The Interstellar Medium Author Join Date: May 2008 Location: [SWE] Age: 34	Plot-armor and magic power beyond h4x levels. Not that weird, this is Nanoverse after all. __________________

2013-04-02, 18:27	Link #7800
Kaijo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, in a house dropped on an ugly, old woman.	I'll grant that Veyron is a wee bit tough. But as Keroko noted, it's nothing we haven't seen before, with Vita. Veyron is non-human, as Vita is. That opens the door to being able to survive things that normal humans can't. Remember, the heart is just used to mainly pump blood throughout his system (well, a bit more than that, but this is a light explanation). It is possible the Eclipse virus can cause his veins and arteries to manually contract and move the blood on their own. I wouldn't think it would be something he could survive forever in, though. And given the reaction I'm hearing about, it is likely that the Hucks know this, too. Next chapter will probably have them making plans to get the heart back, or get a replacement.