Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans Episode 45 Discussion / Poll
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Wow, while I expected a depressing episode, instead this episode has me absolutely jittery with adrenaline.
Like before, this battle takes place in media res, with the battle already in full swing. While still wholly outnumbered, Tekkadan and McGillis' forces are holding there own. However, Rustal, the absolute JERK, decides to do a trick worthy of Idiok (I thought you were better than this Rustal. ) and has a plant/traitor among Macky's forces that shoots a lone Danslief shot at Rustal's forces before killing himself. Rustal uses this as an excuse to employ his own Dansleif team to completely destroy Macky's forces, crippling the one of Tekkadan's ships, Flauros, and killing Riza Enza and his ship.
Macky, pissed off decides to go out himself, and rallies his troops in quite a heroic scene. While he does this, Orga is deciding what to do, but Shino won't be beat and rallies Tekkadan's side as well. Gaelio and Kimaris come out there to face Bael/Macky, but Isurugi and McGillis' men keep him busy, sacrificing their own lives in order to keep away from Macky.
Once McGillis is able to put together his own troops, he goes back and faces Gaelio himself.
It's just such a jazzed up scene with everyone giving it their all. However, after a few heartfelt scenes, you can feel one death flag in particular rise above the others.
Spoiler for Major Character Death:
And I am so pissed a Julietta. Ms. Try-Hard gets sent out after Mika and manages to keep him busy. However, when Shino is able to give his all to make a mortal blow at Rustal himself, she blocks his shot, and causes him to miss. Shino goes down quickly after that, and there is a good chance he died in a blaze!
Now, I say, possible, since no body is officially shown, and we all know how that is in anime and Gundam in particular. But it makes you so pissed, and you just want Tekkadan to take out them all.
The battle continues next week!
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Only one so far, which is Shino. I put him as "possibly" dead since we didn't see a body, only his bloody bandages coming from out of his broken cockpit. His cockpit also was consumed with fire while he was alive, so it's a high possibility that he's dead. However, I never trusted Gundam again after that Mu la Flaga crap they pulled all those years ago, so until we get a body or some for sure conformation, I will say "possibly".
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There goes Shino. And he missed the shot, didn't he? Even with his Alayashiki breaching the safe limit...
That was one insanely intense ride, I was trying not to even blink so that I wouldn't miss anything. I'm speechless right now and definitely need to calm down first. And see the PV when Daisuki's version is out since broadcast doesn't do pvs anymore.
There goes Shino. And he missed the shot, didn't he? Even with his Alayashiki breaching the safe limit...
That was one insanely intense ride, I was trying not to even blink so that I wouldn't miss anything. I'm speechless right now and definitely need to calm down first. And see the PV when Daisuki's version is out since broadcast doesn't do pvs anymore.
Try youtube.....
Cuz in there they show us the pv for the next eps
And that conclude the end of our Ryusei-GO if only Tekkadan can afford more Dainsleif talk about a dickmove using Dainsleif -_- Rustal you bring entire fleet to fight but to retreat and use Dainsleif -_- what a pussy
One confession to make. I was neutral towards Julietta, but now I want to see the foreshadowing in the opening with her being on the same (red) side as Lafter come true. She needs to be put down.
And that conclude the end of our Ryusei-GO if only Tekkadan can afford more Dainsleif talk about a dickmove using Dainsleif -_- Rustal you bring entire fleet to fight but to retreat and use Dainsleif -_- what a pussy
Good and the only sane move so far. This is not 12th century cavalry battle or something (but hey, even then they would use bows and arrows).
You can't expect any good thinking from a bunch of ex-slave kids I guess, but chocoguy seriously disappointed me.
I'm yet here waiting for characters to realise that they are fight in the fucking space and can act in 3 dimensions, not only in one plane. Is that too much to ask?
No back up for a surprise attack? Also great move.
You can't expect any good thinking from a bunch of ex-slave kids I guess, but chocoguy seriously disappointed me.
Using their Dainsleif to try and take out the enemy leader IS some good thinking, especially for Shino who usually acts pretty brainless. It took Rustal by surprise at the very least, and had it suceeded, it would've ended the battle. So I strongly disagree on that point.
McGillis though... it's like he's half-asleep or something. He better wake up before he's sent to sleep with eternal slumber.
Lol at the above detractor who thinks ex-slaves lack brains - talk about real archaic thinking and racism...
To begin with, Tekkadan and McGillis' revolutionary faction were sorely outnumbered; they did well given their dreadful circumstances and the balance of power and resources at play. Why McGillis just dived head-first into battle without as much of a backup plan is beyond me: he probably gambled everything on Bael and Tekkadan, former to rally his mutinous troops and the latter as his trump card. We also surely cannot rule out Kudelia making her stage in the coming episodes, or Teiwaz for that matter.
At the very least, Tekkadan just muscled their way behind enemy lines, and might just deal some serious damage while Rustal's forces are in disarray. Furthermore, we still have 5 episodes left - there's bound to be a wildcard somewhere that would turn the tide of battle in Tekkadan's favour.
I actually really liked McGillis this episode. Maybe I'll get a different impression once I get the full subs in an area I have access to.
Rustal pissed me off. I was like, you have more than twice the number that your enemy has, why don't you just put them to good use? But no, he has to cheat and do a a false flag operation to make his enemy look like they shot first so he could bring out his entire Dainsleif armada?
I like how Shino had a pretty good idea to use their own weapons against them, though it looked like the ammo Shino used wasn't the same as the illegal rounds that Rustal was using?
And then Julietta had to hit him and make him lose his shot! And he dies in a blaze! (Maybe? No body yet...)
Come on Mika! Get serious!
This is going to take them a miracle to win. With a huge group of their number decimated, if Tekkadan and Macky make it through this, they honestly deserve to take over considering the odds they had to overcome.
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That despair feeling the moment you watched Shino missed . Man this series is good.
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Good and the only sane move so far. This is not 12th century cavalry battle or something (but hey, even then they would use bows and arrows).
You can't expect any good thinking from a bunch of ex-slave kids I guess, but chocoguy seriously disappointed me.
I'm yet here waiting for characters to realise that they are fight in the fucking space and can act in 3 dimensions, not only in one plane. Is that too much to ask?
No back up for a surprise attack? Also great move.
Sane from your POV, perhaps? Don't forget that this war is also a PR war. This universe has laws that forbid everyone from using Dainsleif, and G-Horn can't use it unless their enemy use it first otherwise the public will see them as the criminal/villain. So Rustal tried to legalize his action by planting that spy on McG's faction to shoot a Dainsleif to the point of sacrificing a part of Arian fleet. Also, you know Tekkadan was doing a good job when even Rustal was surprised.
Outnumbered, outsmarted and out-weapon. This isn't really going well for Choco and Tekkadan. That said Shino almost succeeded in ending the battle. From the preview it seems like Julietta might die.
I sides with Rustal in this conflict. Why the hell should he send his subordinates in a bloody quagmire if he can use a rail-guns and wipe the enemies out, without needless sacrifaces of his men?
Sorry, if Tekkadan and Mackie want to play HARD, why should Rustal be nice to them?
Well, Mika doesn't change. His little moment in this episode when he was asking if Orga was OK (this is one of the few times his voice sounded panicky and he was very visibly relieved when Orga answered) only reminded us again that Orga for him is not just top priority, he probably takes all the positions from 1 through 50 on Mika's priority list. Tekkadan's members and Atra follow only after that.
Well, I seriously hope Orga isn't being set up to die soon just to trigger Mika into all-annihilating self-destructive murderous rage.
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I sides with Rustal in this conflict. Why the hell should he send his subordinates in a bloody quagmire if he can use a rail-guns and wipe the enemies out, without needless sacrifaces of his men?
Sorry, if Tekkadan and Mackie want to play HARD, why should Rustal be nice to them?
He can't use them. They're outlawed. He employed a very dirty trick to justify using them. The subordinates, both his and McGillis', are just meat to him, tools that translate into his power, nothing more than that, and it should be very obvious from his words in this episode, as well as his assignment to Julietta. He's the biggest bastard among all of those currently present on the battlefield from both sides, including the war crimer extraordinare Iok and backstabber McGillis.
I sides with Rustal in this conflict. Why the hell should he send his subordinates in a bloody quagmire if he can use a rail-guns and wipe the enemies out, without needless sacrifaces of his men?
Sorry, if Tekkadan and Mackie want to play HARD, why should Rustal be nice to them?
What are you talking about, Rustal basically just proved everything that McGillis said was wrong with Gjallerhorn. He wants to use illegal weapons but he has to cover his tracks, so he plants a spy and has him shot a single dansleif at his own forces, to give him "justification" to use hundreds of dansleif units at McGillis' group. It's crafty and smart, but very, very dirty, and in most circles would be a crime.
Rustal is just very good at getting rid of evidence as the spy killed himself. He's pretty much as dirty as Iok, he just knows how to cover his tracks better.
This actually puts Iok's own actions into perspective. He does what Rustal does, he just doesn't know how to cover it very well. In fact from the look Iok gives him, I'm wondering if he finds Rustal being a little hypocritical too. And also, what he tells Julietta feels like he's using her too.
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Well, Mika doesn't change. His little moment in this episode when he was asking if Orga was OK (this is one of the few times his voice sounded panicky and he was very visibly relieved when Orga answered) only reminded us again that Orga for him is not just top priority, he probably takes all the positions from 1 through 50 on Mika's priority list. Tekkadan's members and Atra follow only after that.
I did like that moment too. There was rare emotion in his voice!
Though I would put Atra a little higher up after last week. I think it's Orga, Atra, and then the rest of Tekkadan.
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) and has a plant/traitor among Macky's forces that shoots a lone Danslief shot at Rustal's forces before killing himself. Rustal uses this as an excuse to employ his own Dansleif team to completely destroy Macky's forces, crippling the one of Tekkadan's ships, Flauros, and killing Riza Enza and his ship. 
talk about a dickmove using Dainsleif -_- Rustal you bring entire fleet to fight but to retreat and use Dainsleif -_- what a pussy
. Man this series is good. 
