Oda Nobuna no Yabou [Light Novel]

[justpassingby]

^Even if I'm wrong, teasing is not allowed I think by relentlessflame. Just give them the answer

Zenki got shot by bullet. It is said that Shikigami are weak against Barbarian things.
He was unable to do regeneration because he was also weaken as the Ryuumyaku were being destroyed.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by justpassingby

^Even if I'm wrong, teasing is not allowed I think by relentlessflame. Just give them the answer

That's for the Anime threads.

Light Novel or any original source threads get to make their own rules about future spoilers since they are on the 'frontlines'.

[XxSleepyxX]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

I think there are hardly any real discussion because there haven't been that much translations. Akuma is trying the best his can, but he needs help. I am confident that the anime will draw them in, everyday people are discovery the anime and how good it is. They will soon look for the main source, the light Novel. Currently right now, Akuma translated 1 chapter and chapter 2 just got started so it will be eventually when people start reading. The translations are already so interesting and good to read.



Care to elaborate, can you post an image?


Oh and Mechatrill thanks for the spoilers, can't wait to read it when the translation comes out, but that is going to take a while to get to vol 6 without any help.

Wrong. Opposite of what you believe. When a anime ends everyone whose in that anime thread will invade the LN thread trying to seek answers or ask really stupid questions. This tends to lead to a negative impact. Akuma got pissed last time when he was translating DxD so he stopped. At the moment hes the only one translating Oda with what little free time he has. I'm willing to bet by the time the anime ends all those people who use to belong to anime thread will invade this thread to annoy everyone in this thread. Get enough people to annoy the shit out (or PM HURRY THE F**K up and translate) of Akuma and he'll stop translating. Hes not as kind-hearted as n0m@n. Hes actually gets mad.
Holy crap n0m@n is alive!

@Sumeragi. Didn't you already tell us who dies in the Oda group? I thought you said it was one of the later acquired lolis.

[n0m@n]

Well it says that Hisahide dies in volume 9 on the jap wiki and blog. Wonder who the other person is....

[chad001]

So Matsunaga dies and possesses someone else (Kashinkyoshi)? Anyone know who the equivalent of Yamamoto Kansuke is? And.. wait what was that about Nobusumi making Nagamasa pregnant?

[ReaperxKingx]

Well that is kind of sad, she was the dark skinned beauty. The other one I think that was spoiled so far is Zenki. Zenki was the servant of Hanbei, he was really Hanbei's opposite. The ironic thing is, this part of history did happen. Hisahide did die in the original history.

[JohnNiles]

Originally Posted by larethian

Btw, a little off-topic, but of all the koei games, I've yet to play Nobunaga. Which version is most fun?

And when Saru mentioned that Hanbei has 98 INT, which game is that from?

Chance! *jumps in*

Spoiler:

I grew up with Nobunaga's Ambition for the NES. It's very simplistic- there aren't even any generals, just your daimyo. Combat takes place on a small hexagonal grid and it's really just hexagons fighting other hexagons. The one thing that really stands out in my memories is the little animation you'd get if you successfully sic'ed a ninja on a rival and assassinated him. *ka-chop*

Nobunaga's Ambition: Rise To Power, for PS2: This one has good music and character portraits... and horrendously broken AI. Seriously, it's bad. Battles take place in real time. There are no waypoints- you can only click where you want your units to go. This means that the AI opponent takes the shortest route to the goal, while your units stumble into trees or walk counterclockwise when you want them to walk clockwise. There is no fog of war either, so the AI always knows what's what and instantly reacts to any trigger. I usually exploit it by sending my units all left or all right, with the occasional decoy.

The game uses the basic infantry/cavalry/musketry setup, except the cavalry are a little unbalanced. When they use skills, their speed and power increase so much that it's like they tied rocket engines to their horses. -_- Oh, there are cannons too - tremendously slow and weak, but it's very gratifying to siege buildings and watch the enemy run for cover.

One of the thing the game does well is let you build up your fiefs and play with the buildings. It's a sort of Sim Fief with pillaging and looting. All buildings except the keep are destructible in battle, so if I'm in a bad mood, I destroy everything. Usually I just prune the buildings I don't like.

Couple other notable points:
- Warrior maidens! Sometimes your daimyo gives birth to a daughter that can either be married off or become a general in her own right. I spent lots of time resetting for maidens- I guess I was setting up a genderbent history of my own.

- Betrayal! Recruiting an enemy general is really hard, but when it works, you can have them switch sides mid-battle. Yoshitatsu Saito is a good pick in the early game, and that scoundrel Hisahide Matsunaga can always be counted on to switch sides.

- Slaying your enemies! Sometimes generals are killed in battle, and if you catch them, you can choose to kill them, recruit them, or release them. You can tell if a general is lousy if they beg for mercy.


Nobunaga's Ambition: Iron Triangle: This one is basically all-RTS. I didn't get very far in it, only played the scenarios with small groups of fiefs. I believe there's no cap on troop numbers, so if the enemy outgrows you, it's hopeless. Your food supplies start draining away the moment any combat is initiated, so I never had enough food for battles.

There's one thing this game does better than its predecessor- you charge up a morale bar to use skills by fighting, whereas in the previous game, fighting drains your morale so you have to rest often.

The game's way of handling skills is odd- there are tech trees, but it requires tremendous investment to research skills, so you usually focus on one kind of skill (infantry, cavalry, muskets, naval, civil engineer, keeps) or get stuck.



Pokemon Conquest, for DS: Koei is listed in the credits, so it counts. This game is basically simplfied Nobunaga's Ambition with simplified Pokemon. It shouldn't work, but it does. Can get repetitive at times. The main campaign is actually a giant tutorial where you can play at your own pace. There are 40 or so post-game missions, though most of them are mirror images of each other with different starting generals. You play as a non-canon character in the main game, and as the various generals in the post-game missions. I got bogged down in Hanbei's campaign... he's so boring -.-


I could go on for hours, but that's a quick list. I don't play imports, and I have no idea how many other Nobunaga's Ambition games have been released (skipped the SNES ones).

[chad001]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

Well that is kind of sad, she was the dark skinned beauty. The other one I think that was spoiled so far is Zenki. Zenki was the servant of Hanbei, he was really Hanbei's opposite. The ironic thing is, this part of history did happen. Hisahide did die in the original history.

Um... Zenki's not a girl though. So I'm not sure if that counts towards the TWO Sumeragi pointed out. Hell, I don't know if Matsunaga counts, she does come back... ANd I don't know if Yamamoto Kansuke is male or female, and there's some miscellaneous bondage with Yamanaka Yukimori or something that also leaves me confused... CURSE MY INABILITY TO READ JAPANESE!

[justpassingby]

Except that Zenki is not a girl, and not a person to boot :P.
Well he was Tsuchimikado Hisanaga's ancestor, before he was a Shikigami

[ReaperxKingx]

Originally Posted by chad001

Um... Zenki's not a girl though. So I'm not sure if that counts towards the TWO Sumeragi pointed out. Hell, I don't know if Matsunaga counts, she does come back... ANd I don't know if Yamamoto Kansuke is male or female, and there's some miscellaneous bondage with Yamanaka Yukimori or something that also leaves me confused...

True......... someone cue awkward music. Well Nom@N confirmed one, Nom@n isn't one to troll people like Kadi so I take his word for it. Here are two pictures of Matsunaga

Spoiler for Matsunaga:

[aigomorla]

EDIT: AHHH reaper thanks!

Meh.. as long as its not Niwa, Katsue, Goemon, or Hanbei... the author can kill off whoever he wants.. :P

[ReaperxKingx]

No, she wasn't brought in the thread a lot. I usually call her Hisahide, she is a main focus on the recently release volume 9. Also she is the first female character or character to appear with Nobuna in a cover.

[aigomorla]

AHHHHHHHHH this series makes my head hurt trying to remember whose who..
especially when all i got is spoilers to link people together..

:\

Almost makes me feel back when i first started reading DxD and would go eh? whose kunou... eh? whose magical girl levi tan? EH? whose Opfis...

[ReaperxKingx]

Don't worry about it too much. If you need to ask some simple questions, I will answer them.

[justpassingby]

Zenki died at page 135 while Matsunaga is at page 208 of vol 9

[ReaperxKingx]

These spoilers are making me more excited to read them when the translations come out.

[Sumeragi]

There is another girl who dies.

[aigomorla]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

There is another girl who dies.

lemme guess... you pretty soon unless you tell us who?

[justpassingby]

Manmi Senchiyo

[kazzuya13]

Originally Posted by justpassingby

Manmi Senchiyo

Who's that?
and who is Masamune?