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You really need to write coherently. It's not that hard to spell "because". I would appreciate it if you take the extra time to hit a few more keys on the keyboard, it really doesn't take that much effort.
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Here's a link from CNN. http://archives.cnn.com/2002/TECH/ptech/10/09/fuelcell/ Quote:
With Bush invading Iraq for "oil" he is already making an investment. By investing into a victory in Iraq, America will be able to now purchase more Oil from another country with supplys of it, and it will be cheaper, due to the supply of oil going down. So how does this help YOU the consumer of the middle class? Due to the increase in supply of Oil, businesses can now lower prices for the rest of the people. Isn't it funny, how many people bitch about how the rich get richer and such? Yet the rich are the ones shelling out millions of dollars to develop the very items that you people use? Is it honestly their fault that you're buying their items? Capital investment is NOT cheap, but it still needs to be developed. I just helped Samsung earn another few dollars by buying a monitor from them. Oh! wait, it's a computer part, it has nothing to do with oil. Here's a hypothetical situation: If you drive a car, you just helped the company develop another tool that uses Oil. Guess what? You just contributed to the rise in oil prices by creating more demand! Yay! And of course, we now need more oil to help some more people run their cars and be able to get to work for a company that CREATES the Tires that are used for the cars they were just driving! And of course the cycle continues. Heck, it takes oil to make the paved roads that we drive on. It takes oil to light the stove and cook the food you eat. Unless you actually start a massive protest and start walking to work, riding public transportation, and actually not use any oil, then you're not helping the situation one bit. I think most people here just do not understand how business and a free market economy works... Here's a very useful quote. "It takes money, to make money." |
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2004-11-19, 01:58 | Link #122 | |
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http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/future/volta.html I don't know about fuel cell cars though. |
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2004-11-19, 04:58 | Link #123 | |||
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And in theory, if we were to replace almost every vehicle today with a vehicle of far less consumption, we could just about double the availability of oil to the US alone,.. at least for cars as consumer transportation. Quote:
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We do have the Technology, you want to drive a nuclear powered car? Quote:
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Hell theorectically, all 6 billion people in the world can move to Texas and live there. Might be a bit crowded, but hey it's theory. Quote:
Effort is one thing, but without any materials you're not going anywhere. Last edited by aahhsin; 2004-11-19 at 16:50. |
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2004-11-19, 16:09 | Link #125 | |
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2004-11-19, 17:02 | Link #126 | |
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Switching from VHS didn't happen overnight, and some people still don't own DVD players. This example is on a much much smaller scale, both time and expense wise, but it's the general idea. |
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2004-11-19, 17:56 | Link #127 | |
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2004-11-20, 00:56 | Link #128 | ||
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But for example: "How about you buy me a brand new fuel cell car?" There is no point in me producing cars for you if you're not going to give anything in return of at least equal value to me. When we together show that we will put together equal effort, open will be that of a seed to economy. |
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2004-11-20, 03:13 | Link #129 | ||
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This is new technology we're talking about, it's unreliable, dangerous, and untested. It could take over 20 years before your dream of Feul Cell/Electric cars start occupying the streets. Guess what? Oil is still the man during this time. Quote:
If we follow your plan and start producing the new effient cars companies will need: New Machines New Workers New Factories New Designers New Engineers New Distributors New Facilities Now you can say why won't the government step in and require these items? It can, just taxes are going to get higher. And I remember most people here are already bitching about Bush's deficeit. Unless everyone wants to pay more taxes this isn't going to happen. What does Charity has to do with effort? But for example: "How about you buy me a brand new fuel cell car?" There is no point in me producing cars for you if you're not going to give anything in return of at least equal value to me. When we together show that we will put together equal effort, open will be that of a seed to economy.[/QUOTE] What the hell are you talking about? Don't use any metaphors. It's confusing in a argument and they can mean anything. I understand that your saying if everyone goes buy your car and everyone cooperates in one way then the're will be no problem. There's just one problem, STOP THINKING RADICALLY! Not everyone can adjust to change that easily. The costs of doing so are off the charts. It doesn't matter if companies have millions of dollars, creating new investments like this is rediculously high, and NO company will take the huge risk of going out of business just to save the world. Electrics believe it or not ARE NOT AS EFFICIENT as Oil based cars. They're slow, can't carry heavy loads, and can go about 2 hours before a all day recharge. And like everyone knows, Batteries will diminish everytime you charge it some more and more. Like cellphones and Lithium batteries. BTW how did Osama's WMDs become an argument about cars? |
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2004-11-20, 04:31 | Link #130 | |
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Yet one last thing, how much longer do you think that the profits in oil will offset the cost of the war alone? But for the people of Iraq, they have little say on where and what those profits go to. Something in the end that fuels the cause to terrorism,.. to many, an occupation it is seen. Last edited by Green²; 2004-11-20 at 04:35. Reason: Typo |
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