[Manga] Chapter 432 Discussion

[Hunter]

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[Adediran242]

Supposedly, this has been confirmed.

Spoiler for Confirmed chapter:

ナルトがペインに切れて螺旋手裏剣投げつける
naruto gets mad at pain and throws FRS
みんなびっくりして髪長い奴を倒す
everyone is surprised and the long haired one is beaten

場面は代わりシカマル
meanwhile, shikamaru
カツユからナルトが帰還した事と仙術の事を知らされ助けに行こうとするもパパさんに止められる
Shika learns from Katsuya, naruto has come back and goes to help but his dad stops him
パパ「仙術を身に付けたならレベルが違う。足手まといにならないことがチームワークだ」
Shikaku: if he's learned senin then he's on a different level to you. Not getting in the way is also a part of teamwork
なんだかなｗｗｗ自雷也涙目ｗ
something about jiraiya's tearful eyes?

そんでまたナルトサイド
back to Naruto
(仙人モードが切れちまう！)
sennin mode is over
そして女がナルトに近寄る
the woman gets near naruto
ブン太「頭ぁ！」
Bunta: watch your head!

フカサク「これからブンちゃんをナルトめがけて投げつける！」
それで投げつける
Fukusaku: from now on Bunta aim at naruto and throw
(ND -not sure what is being thrown here)

ブン太はナルトと女を口に含み口の中でナルトが女をやりたい放題する(ボコボコ的な意味で)
それで口から出ると同時に残り二人に螺旋丸
bunta puts naruto and the girl in his mouth so that naruto can go at it to his heart's content. At the same time he is released from the mouth he blast the remaining two with RASEN-REN-GANs [Spiraling LINKED Sphere]

そこで仙人パワー切れて終わり
then senin power runs out and it ends

As have these pictures.

Spoiler for pictures:

Take a good look at the second one. See anything you like?

[Animecentred]

Wow, i have for once read spoilers and believed them (Naruto uses FRS)

If they are true i will bask forever in his moment of glory as he will surely get unlucky the next chapter as his Sage mode runs out

[mahbod]

the above spoiler is true here is a video , with basically the whole chapter its hard to make out images but it confirms the content

http://wordonmars.wordpress.com/2009...31-discussion/

[Mr. Johnny 5]

I had a bad feeling something like this might happen...about a limit or time limit of the Sennin Mode. It was too good to be true..anyway.. Looks like Pain still isnt impressed.

[Adediran242]

Looking forward to seeing the Rasen-ren-gan in action. If anyone has a picture of it, post it up. PLZPLZPLZ.

[Fran~]

Originally Posted by Mr. Johnny 5

I had a bad feeling something like this might happen...about a limit or time limit of the Sennin Mode. It was too good to be true..anyway.. Looks like Pain still isnt impressed.

Fukasaku pointed that way before, about the limitations of Sennin Mode.

but those limitations always are only at beginning, you can remember Goku pre-SSJ (Kaioken?), Masked Ichigo, etc...

Overall... Naruto now is seriously powered up... now Naruto it is not just a Melee fighter (mid range jutsu is a bless for him), and he has serious ninjutsu AND taijutsu... I wanna see Naruto attacked by Genjutsu and i can expect that Itachi's aid will be showed up finally.

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by Mr. Johnny 5

I had a bad feeling something like this might happen...about a limit or time limit of the Sennin Mode. It was too good to be true..anyway.. Looks like Pain still isnt impressed.

What are you talking about? We knew for a fact that Sage-mode only last for 5 minutes. The weakness of Sage-mode are meant to be surmounted by working together with another Sage (in the case of Jiraiya he "fused" with Shima and Fukasaku) but it's impossible for Naruto because the Kyubi prevents it.
Naruto is meant to figure out eventually that he can use a Kage Bunshin to get ride of this limitation.

[Mr. Johnny 5]

Originally Posted by Fran~

Fukasaku pointed that way before, about the limitations of Sennin Mode.

but those limitations always are only at beginning, you can remember Goku pre-SSJ (Kaioken?), Masked Ichigo, etc...

Overall... Naruto now is seriously powered up... now Naruto it is not just a Melee fighter (mid range jutsu is a bless for him), and he has serious ninjutsu AND taijutsu... I wanna see Naruto attacked by Genjutsu and i can expect that Itachi's aid will be showed up finally.

I think Naruto's pretty good against Genjutsu.... it was pretty unfair from the beginning....his matchup against Itachi. Who happens to be a master in Genjutsu.
Kurenai disspelled his genjutsu(counter) but she is also a master in genjutsu.

Jiraiya and Naruto arent masters in genjutsu but i am sure they know how to deal with it...(when it's someone other than Itachi )

Originally Posted by Hunter

What are you talking about? We knew for a fact that Sage-mode only last for 5 minutes. The weakness of Sage-mode are meant to be surmounted by working together with another Sage (in the case of Jiraiya he "fused" with Shima and Fukasaku) but it's impossible for Naruto because the Kyubi prevents it.
Naruto is meant to figure out eventually that he can use a Kage Bunshin to get ride of this limitation.

Must've been a deja vu then...because i probably missed it or forgot about it.

[Goshin]

for some reason i feel kinda disapointed if its Frs.. i was expecting something new. but i still have hope that jiraiya's that jutsu is so badass that it is being reserved for the last boss...

also now that seinen power is depleted maybe we can see if that scroll serve some function (maybe its just a fashion statement)

[irvinethearcher]

According to the link given above the only one pain who is left is god realm pain.
That would mean that that nasty one, who could ressurect the others, is out of the way and pain should be no danger anymore. I don't think that god realm is a match for the frog sage couple.

[Divinegundam]

What is EMS; is it the permanent Mangekyou Sharingan? Also what sharingan does Susake have now it does not look like the Mangekyou Sharingan? Also what is FRS

[Kafriel]

Fuuton:Rasen-shuriken or FRS for short
EMS is permanent Mangekyou sharingan, his doesn't look like the rest but has the same powers, he used Amaterasu against Kirabi.

[james0246]

^Well, that is a little off-topic, but okay: EMS - Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan (yes it is a Mangekyo Sharingan that is never damaged); Sasuke has the MS, but he has a singularly unique design; FRS - Fuuton: RasenShuriken otherwise known as Giant Whirly Ball of Death (tm)...

edit: Beaten to the punch...

[Kafriel]

Also note that he has the normal MS, his eyesight's still deteriorating.

[Divinegundam]

Thanks i thought it would be more like IMS for infinite but Eternal sounds better. Can't wait to see Naruto combine the Sage mode with the Kyubi chakra perhaps this will keep the Sharingan users from control the 9 tails. Also i think Pain used up a lot of chakra when he blew up Konoha so even is sage mode runs out it will still be a even battle.

[chuckcsf]

Originally Posted by Divinegundam

Thanks i thought it would be more like IMS for infinite but Eternal sounds better. Can't wait to see Naruto combine the Sage mode with the Kyubi chakra perhaps this will keep the Sharingan users from control the 9 tails. Also i think Pain used up a lot of chakra when he blew up Konoha so even is sage mode runs out it will still be a even battle.

What Sauske has now is called PMS also know as Primitive Mangekyu Sharingan.

So he has been running around spreading the wrath of his PMS.

[Adediran242]

Originally Posted by chuckcsf

What Sauske has now is called PMS also know as Primitive Mangekyu Sharingan.

So he has been running around spreading the wrath of his PMS.

My fiancee does the exact same thing. Except she has brown eyes, not red.

[That Other Ninja]

Originally Posted by Hunter

What are you talking about? We knew for a fact that Sage-mode only last for 5 minutes. The weakness of Sage-mode are meant to be surmounted by working together with another Sage (in the case of Jiraiya he "fused" with Shima and Fukasaku) but it's impossible for Naruto because the Kyubi prevents it.
Naruto is meant to figure out eventually that he can use a Kage Bunshin to get ride of this limitation.

What do you mean by using a Kage Bunshin to get over the limitation? The limitation of being able to use Sennin Mode for only 5 minutes? So no matter how much Naruto has perfected Sennin Mode, he can only use it for 5 minutes? I thought being able to achieve it without sitting still for half an hour was his way of overcoming the fusion, so then would the Kage Bunshin serve? Are you saying it can go sit stilll for as long as he needs somewhere hidden so Naruto can have an indefinite Sennin Mode (I thought that would be the way he achieved Sennin Mode when fusing with Fukasaku was out of the question in the beginning)?

[DeDe]

So basically the completed FRS is a nastier version of the Destroto Disk. Who says Krillin was a nobody?

Spoiler for Destructo Disk!:

So Deva Pain is the only one left. Naruto looks out of Sage Mode, but they know the weakness with Deva Pain's Shinra Tensei and he can't use it on a large scale anymore. Unless these corpses have a self destruct mechanism, there is little left the Deva body can do but flee.

Unless Kishi makes up some new type of power for Pein, Naruto won and has become the strongest character in the manga by far when in Sage Mode. Quickest major fight ever.