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Also to be logical the only members of the Uchiha clan left is Itachi and Sasuke while the Hyuuga clan has much more people and many are quite powerful so clan on clan Hyuuga would win I also said Quote:
I said no b/c the Sharingan while capable of appearing in Uchiha members isn't that likely while the Byakugan appears in almost all (since we know that they seal up the lower members White Eye with the seal) So the ratio is blanced more in the Hyuuga clan unlike in the Uchiha clan were one person (Itachi) got sickenly powerful |
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Were you here when we all pretty much agreed that Itachi can't be the only genius to come out of Uchiha in the lifetime of the entire clan? If not, well....we all agreed that. Itachi can't have made a name for the entire clan by himself - it would just be the name of Itachi that would be feared. |
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2004-06-02, 10:00 | Link #304 |
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I would definitely choose the Byukugan.
About the Sharingan's genjutsus... don't think there's much the Byukugan can do against that. I just figured that having Sharingan makes one a Jack of all trades but a Master of none.... unless ur a super genius like Neji is, to learn Hyuuga's secret techniques on his own. At least Sasuke had tutors like Kakashi and Oro to help him advance his abilities. |
2004-06-02, 10:39 | Link #305 | ||
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The clone that Neji thought was Naruto wasn't just standing away doing nothing, as Neji said, it was the one who attacked the least. Through that, he assumed that Naruto feared the Jyuken style whereas Naruto was attacking him with everything he had since the beginning of the fight along with his clones. Once again, to see all the informations around you doesn't mean that you will interpret them correctly. Quote:
As Raikage said, I didn't answer that firstly because it wasn't the subject of this thread but whatever. If you have read my previsou posts, you know that I think that the Hyuaga isn't immunized against the Tsukiyomi and his kind and that this jutsu can be used against several targets at once. The answer is pretty obvious after that no? But okey for the sake of this point let's forget about the Tsukiyomi for the moment. Yes I think that Itachi would have been able to obliterate the Hyuga clan in the same way as he did against the Uchiha. The reasons are manifold : -The surprise attack element. -Due to the organization of the Hyuga, the more experienced ninjas are those who have inherited the less of their bloodline, ie the Branch family who represents the majority of the clan (or at least 50%, but there isn't more leaders than directed). -Jounin level ninja are very rare, Konoha as the biggest hidden village seems to have some dozens of them (the manga never showed Hyuga jounins in the jounin meeting with the 3rd btw but I assume there must be some jounins in the Hyuga). -A clan isn't composed of hundreds of people. Given that, the large majority of Hyuga are genin and chuunin level, you saw already what are the chuunins against a single jounin and what are jounins in front of Itachi, ie not that much. For Hiashi, the deadliest ninja of the Hyuga and the only one who knew the Kaiten and who can be somewhat a threat, an Amaterasu glance would be enough to obliterate him into less than ashes. Most of these reason can be applicated to the Uchiha too, the only question is how Itachi took care of the other Sharingan masters. Sarcateak came with an interesting theory about that, saying that the first thing that Itachi did could have been to trap all of them together into a fight of will inside his Tsukiyomi and then finished the rest of the clan when he had crushed their minds. |
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2004-06-02, 15:37 | Link #307 | |
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And even with that, if Neji would have been able to gain this kind of speed easily, he would have done it. After all, speed is one of the main point of his training. |
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2004-06-02, 17:57 | Link #311 | |
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In the other hand, I wouldn't bet about his actual level. Spoiler:
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2004-06-02, 18:51 | Link #312 | |
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But then again you have to think, everyone he's fought thus far, he's had no reason to use high speed like Lee and Sasuke, it wouldn't work on Spiderboy, since most of the time, Neji was on the defensive side, either that or he was in bondage When he fought Hinata, he was toying with her.......and trying to kill her, when he fought Naruto, he was being arrogant, but was still able to own Naruto, then when Naruto used Kyuubi's chakra, and gained speed, it didn't phase Neji, he was still able to block and parry Naruto's attacks Remember Lee's words, even if you can see it (him and his speed) it's useless if your body can't react fast enough. Then we go to the Gaara + Lee fight, when Lee says "Neji, I was saving this technique for you, but I'll allow you to see it." If Neji wasn't as fast as Lee and Sasuke, then Lee would have no reason to say that, since he could have just beat Neji by taking his weights off. Then when he did take his weights off, Neji didn't even flinch, I'm thinking he's fought Lee several times with his weights off, I mean if Lee's main goal is to beat Neji, why limit yourself by having on weights? Spoiler:
For those saying Neji has no insight into the future at all divination. noun [see Types of Divination.] 1. The supposed insight into the future or the unknown gained by supernatural means. 2. A skilful and accurate forecast. astrology. noun The study of the movements and relative positions of celestial bodies interpreted as an influence on human affairs. Last edited by Ke0; 2004-06-02 at 22:25. |
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Gai's faster than Kakashi for example, but not enough to crush him with speed alone at the contrary to the first encounter Lee vs. Sasuke. The jutsu that Lee was saving to beat Neji was the insane speed allowed by the Gates, not his regular high speed without the weights because very high speed< high speed + Byakugan. Lee as a pure Taijutsu user needs to be so fast that Neji couldn't even react to his speed, and we saw that Neji has some insane reflexes And the character data book states that Neji's under the speed of Lee and Sasuke (then again the speed comparison of the book are somewhat weird sometimes). Gai did try to teach to open the Gates to Neji and Ten-Ten, but Lee was the only one to succeed. Then no, Neji hasn't insight into the future, if it was the case his match would have been completely different, the Hakkeshou or Bagua Zhang in chinese is just a real Chinese internal martial art, one of the main styles of Tai-Chi. Oh and don't forget the spoiler tag :/ |
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Jyuken which means gentle or internal fist. Though it's not the actual fighting style, just the style's name. Pa Kua Zhang would probably be the style, and would fit nicely about with my belief that there are 8 Ultimate attacks.. The act of seeing or supposedly seeing into the future or having future insight (which IS different from seeing into the future) is Divination. Quote:
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I was showing you that it wasn't because Lee's faster than Neji than he can beat him just by withdrawing his weight. He's faster but not enough for that. Quote:
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I don't really think that there are 6 others secret moves (there can be more or less of none of them for that matters), neither the Kaiten nor the 64 hands have something to do with one of the 8 signs of the Hakke in particular. But well, it's always possible, as possible as a 3rd Taijutsu move involving ligthning (I don't think so) and an ultimate and most powerful attack named Izanagi (the god who created Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi from his eyes) for the Uchiha. Who knows? Quote:
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[quote]I don't remember the exact chapter, it was during the fight Lee vs. Dosu, just before Lee used the Lotus (so volume 6?), there is a flashback about when Lee succeed for the first time to use it whereas neither Neji not Ten-Ten were unable to do so.[/quote[ I'll look around that timeframe Quote:
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EDIT: And as far as I know, Tai Chi is based in part on Pa Kua Chang and Xing Yi Chuan for inner style, and basic Shaolin Chuan for external style. Or at least that's what my teacher believes. |
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Definately Sharingan because I think in future instances we will really see it full capability. Like the technique that caused the black flame and burn through the frogs stomach. All we really saw from it was just a teaser were as with the buggamon lol all we saw so far was he can see everything. Lot of good that did he still got his butt handed to him. Plus red eyes kick booty
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