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In Taku's POV, it's Haru who is doing the 'backstabbing'. He's been hunting this person for a long time, and now his friend is getting in the way? @Randrak Backdooring Chiyu was underhanded for sure, and one I can't understand apart from maybe Taku thinking it's a harmless thing he installed in Chiyu. But all I care about right now is HaruXTaku friendship. Quote:
Of course, if it was Taku who staged the accident then yeah, he's taking it way too extreme. But from what was shown so far, Taku only knew about the accident after Chiyu read the post, and KYH/Haru talked about its probably because enmity from Araya that caused the accident and not Cyan Pile's fault. So is Taku an opportunist? Yeah, but it's not as if he's killing anyone by beating KYH in Brain Burst. Quote:
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2012-05-01, 13:09 | Link #1102 | |
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2012-05-01, 13:32 | Link #1103 |
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In Kuroyukihime's case, it could be right now. She's barely holding on, and could go into shock at any moment. Do you think forcefully having to go into battle, get beaten around (if I recall, Haru said the pain felt relatively real), and possibly killed in-game, followed by forceful deletion of a core program, wouldn't cause one to go into shock when they were teetering?
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2012-05-01, 13:33 | Link #1104 |
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Really? I figured from the smirk he gave to Haru at the end that he kinda knew, though thinking about it I guess it doesn't necessarily suggest he knew...
That's not backstabbing. You can't back-stab a guy by simply getting in way of someone who's spying on your other friend and taking advantage of a girl you love that's currently comatose. Haru is confronting him on the issue, not backstabbing him. If Taku considers that backstabbing then he's not being particularly reasonable.
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2012-05-01, 13:36 | Link #1105 | |
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2012-05-01, 14:13 | Link #1108 |
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Generally when making a claim that something will happen then the burden of proof shifts to that side. And imo, simply making sense in real life is not actual proof since then people can Fanwank a whole load of stuff (You'd be amazed at some of the relationship psychology people can come up with to justify their favourite pairing in shipping wars). It has to be mentioned in the story or at least hinted at.
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2012-05-01, 14:27 | Link #1109 |
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What's the first thing that came to Haru's mind when he learned that KYH was still connected to the network?
"Physical Full Burst consumes 99% if the points. If someone attacks her here..." Haru is more concerned about her exiting out of the brain burst world (since she lost 99% of her points, a loss is most certainly quitting Brain Burst altogether), than he is concerned at the physical welfare of KYH. If KYH was really in danger of dying due to burst linking, he should've asked her to be disconnected from the network instead (after all, all they're doing is monitoring her brainwaves), or at least make it stand alone. And he could make up some reason for them doing so, like saying she has a certain condition or somesuch. But his train of thought? It's not to protect KYH from dying, but protecting her from getting to zero points. As such, I see no reason as to why to think that KYH was in danger from dying to burst linking, when Haru himself isn't worried about it.
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2012-05-01, 15:41 | Link #1110 | |
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It could be the way it was said or the way it was translated but i felt 2 things when Haru stated "physical Full Burst consumes 99% if the points. If someone attacks her here" That if she was attacked and defeated that she would not be there to see him accomplish what she herself feels he is capable of doing. In order to reach that ultimate level and so to speak unlock the keys to the universe she still needs to be a Brain Burster. The other feeling i got was that if she loss while in the state she was in that could put her life in danger as well. Nothing was stated about the effects of Brain Bursting while in a near comatose state. If she was challenged, would she even be able to fight or would her avatar appear lifeless. There are several reasons that could have led to Haru's current actions and thinking. But unless we are told his inner thoughts we wont know for sure. Im very interested in what physical state a person has to be in to use Brain Burst. Even if someone is in a Coma there brain is still functioning technically. Comatose patients can hear and feel people around them that has been proven. Is KYH the same and if they are monitoring her brain waves wouldn't the system pick up unusual brain activity coming from her since im sure Brain Burster's brain waves are in an excited state when they are playing.
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2012-05-01, 15:55 | Link #1111 | |
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Anyway, I just watched through this series today. I had no interest in this show, but I saw a blogger's preview images of Kuroyukihime looking brutally hurt and broken, wearing an oxygen mask and lying on a bloodstained hospital gurney, and I had to see who would do something like that to a girl, and then I had to watch the rest of the series to establish context. I don't know if I'll stick with it: this series does not exactly fit my tastes, but I'll need to watch at least one more episode to make sure that Hime is all right. |
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2012-05-01, 16:10 | Link #1113 |
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beign in a coma most likely make it very hard/imposible to use brain burst, since from what i know it means a part of the brain dont respond, and about kuroyukihime dying, i dont think thats the case, i think haru's concer is that if she loses brain burst, she will forget about him, and that what he is trying to protect.
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2012-05-01, 16:32 | Link #1116 | |
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If your friend was about to punch your girlfriend in the face what would you do?
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2012-05-01, 16:46 | Link #1118 |
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Until just now he didn't know his friend was involved, and he'd already promised Hime all his support. After she was just put in the hospital on the verge of death saving him, do you really expect him to just stand back and let someone, anyone just attack her while she's laying there fighting for her life?
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2012-05-01, 16:57 | Link #1119 |
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This is what im wondering. You need to accelerate to enter the duel she is in a coma so she could not accelerate to accept the dual anyway. I guess we dont know enough about how the Brain Burst program actually interacts with the brain and nervous system.
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2012-05-01, 16:58 | Link #1120 |
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So you wouldn't stop the punch then? That's essentially all Haru has actually done so far and I wouldn't call it backstabbing nor does it mean he can't appeal for his friendship. You seem to be talking about future events which is unrelated right now.
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