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JaDe In NighT · 2014-09-20, 15:37

True most of them are for MikotoxKuroko , ToumaxMikoto there was one for Frenda but its dead

LevelSeven · 2014-09-20, 15:45

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Originally Posted by JaDe In NighT

True most of them are for MikotoxKuroko , ToumaxMikoto there was one for Frenda but its dead

to be honest, i dont even see many index (the char) fanfics anymore

it seems like:
lack of screen time for [put char into this field] => lack of fanfictions with said char

thor is such a example

tsunade666 · 2014-09-20, 15:55

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Originally Posted by LevelSeven

to be honest, i dont even see many index (the char) fanfics anymore

it seems like:
lack of screen time for [put char into this field] => lack of fanfictions with said char

thor is such a example

Not really. Usually the character not used most of the time in the main series are the one being developed. Look at others fic. Because its easier to mold characters that was done that way. You can mold them and you can say its character development and the readers would just flame you but your action can be justified because the canon story doesn't expand that character to make your character out of character.

Look at narutards fic and potty fics.

Its just that index's fan fiction writers are pretty one dimensional or just plain shippers that doesn't really expand the story. Comrade ferret is one of the few exceptions.

I can only name 3 authors in index fan fiction that I actually liked and 2 of them are cross overs stories.

SmokinFerret88 · 2014-09-20, 16:29

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Originally Posted by tsunade666

Its just that index's fan fiction writers are pretty one dimensional or just plain shippers that doesn't really expand the story. Comrade ferret is one of the few exceptions.

Hey, what can I say, I'ma trend setter.

I've made a few ripples in the Index section of FF.net with Darkness before. It got me chuckling too and kinda made me sad all the same.

Personally, when it came to writing Naruto fics (good god, bad times) I was dead set on doin' Naruto / Yugito because of how underdeveloped the latter was in the series. I like doing things differently than other people; going for options that many won't shoot at for the same reasons you addressed.

It's saddening, but expected no matter where you go. I'm just hoping I can eventually make enough ripples in this side of FF.net to eventually make a tidal-wave. It'll happen, you watch, I'll make it happen.

dniv · 2014-09-20, 18:35

I feel like the best fics for me are the fics that explore what would have happened in the story if A or B hadn't happened (or had happened like with the Frenda fanfic) in a certain character's backstory, and as a result the character becomes different and can be seen in a new light.

Kamachi actually gives us a lot of details about the characters and if followed straight like Ferret does which is allowed to draw on a lot of the information from the actual verse, it makes it a lot more fun to read and it gets the added benefit of being set in To aru verse. If a fic screws with personalities without giving reasons or just changes things to be out of character, then it is just wish-fulfillment.

The fics that explore character development that could happen are much more fun for me since they're believable, but they just didn't happen in the main story because of certain events that did or didn't happen.

It's also very hard to come out with good fic ideas because it takes a lot of work. I normally never read any fanfiction, but some of the people here mark exceptions to that trend for me, because it not only relates to To aru verse, but is something I really enjoy reading, since I feel like it's done well.

I have no experience writing fan-fics (well very little...) so I can't really say much else about it.

silverexorcist · 2014-09-20, 20:32

New Chapter of a Certain Collection of Events is out. I'm starting to look for a balance between humor and actual seriousness. I like what I had back in chapter 2, but I can't seem to reach that equilibrium again, no matter how hard I try...

Reading through what you guys mentioned, I realize that people should seriously put more focus on the minor characters who are ignored, or at least situations that are given no love in the series. Which would you prefer; a scene with the many Christian girls (plus a washing machine) in their room, or Laura Stuart trolling Electra, the Jeans Shop Owner, the tour guide, and various other Necessarius members?

dniv · 2014-09-20, 21:34

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Originally Posted by silverexorcist

New Chapter of a Certain Collection of Events is out. I'm starting to look for a balance between humor and actual seriousness. I like what I had back in chapter 2, but I can't seem to reach that equilibrium again, no matter how hard I try...

Reading through what you guys mentioned, I realize that people should seriously put more focus on the minor characters who are ignored, or at least situations that are given no love in the series. Which would you prefer; a scene with the many Christian girls (plus a washing machine) in their room, or Laura Stuart trolling Electra, the Jeans Shop Owner, the tour guide, and various other Necessarius members?

Both of those scenarios sound awesome.

Oh wait... you said Laura doing it instead of Kanzaki... the second one.

FlyingCow65 · 2014-09-20, 23:13

How does a "Daily life with a monster girl x To aru" crossover sounds? The monster girl are replaced with the Index characters, for example:

Suu a slime who eats almost everything with Index?

Mr.Kyon · 2014-09-21, 01:03

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Originally Posted by SmokinFerret88

I've broken off three finger nails, jammed up both my middle fingers, and the tips of my other fingers are now all red and swelling up. Worst of all, the screen on my monitor and the keys on my keyboard have blood on them.

ill kiss your hurt away baby, and maybe later you'll strangle me and whisper your true feeeeelingssss~

LevelSeven · 2014-09-21, 01:16

I suddenly recognized something interesting

Im not sure if others "saw" it too but only one (or so) week after i posted my idea with" otakus into toaru" (the ones who helped be developing this idea should remember it (i hope))

i saw two new fanfics created with a similar idea "real world human into toaru (into mikoto)"

Im not implying anything, but i cant stop smiling, exspecially because i didnt saw any toaru-ff with this kind of plot

Maybe it is just a coincidence

EDIT:

Btw, guys, could you imagine a emo #1? someone with zero confidence and only depressing thoughts despite his power to destroy the world?

why am i writing this ideas?
Well, i have so many ideas, most of them are boring BUT some are really good, like "back to the past" and "to aru no switch"...
And i hope i will read FF's with a idea i posted here :-)

JaDe In NighT · 2014-09-21, 11:10

I'll root for you Ferret

JaDe In NighT · 2014-09-21, 11:15

The entire series will be how he is sulking in dark roads

LevelSeven · 2014-09-21, 11:43

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Originally Posted by JaDe In NighT

The entire series will be how he is sulking in dark roads

at least it is different than the sadistic laughing and tsundere-BS

demino_hellsin · 2014-09-23, 12:07

Would the ability to distort somebody's standards be considered dangerous? And by standards I mean all standards. They still see the same thing but they can't quantify it, neither can they judge quality based on their standards. For example, someone affected by the power is given a weight of 1kilo to carry and that should be the standard of weight. But when confronted with a metric ton weight, they can't concieve that a metric ton is 1000kg or more like they can't conceive what 1kg is.

LevelSeven · 2014-09-23, 12:29

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Originally Posted by demino_hellsin

Would the ability to distort somebody's standards be considered dangerous? And by standards I mean all standards. They still see the same thing but they can't quantify it, neither can they judge quality based on their standards. For example, someone affected by the power is given a weight of 1kilo to carry and that should be the standard of weight. But when confronted with a metric ton weight, they can't concieve that a metric ton is 1000kg or more like they can't conceive what 1kg is.

really dangerous,

i guess it is telepathy right?
well, it could change the standard of "danger" that means that the affected person wouldnt recognize a bullet or fire as dangerous...
it would allow you to change the standard of "enemy" and bring it to a low point so that the affected person sees you as enemy but what "enemy" means is now (for him) "someone which can have everything from me"

it isnt OP and i would rank it as level 3, but certainly it would be really dangerous

silverexorcist · 2014-09-23, 12:48

I agree with level three. The ability sounds like something that should be reproductable by Mental Out. It's most limited by the fact that the user can change standards, but how this affects the target depends on surroundings. But like Mental Out, it should have self-imposed boundaries, like the user having to have a firm grasp on their own standards so they don't ever accidently mess themselves up with their own power. Maybe they create a preset (like creating a general scale for standards ranging from 1-10 or something) and they then use telepathy to superimpose this change in standards over the target's own, rewriting them.

LevelSeven · 2014-09-23, 14:26

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Originally Posted by silverexorcist

I agree with level three. The ability sounds like something that should be reproductable by Mental Out. It's most limited by the fact that the user can change standards, but how this affects the target depends on surroundings. But like Mental Out, it should have self-imposed boundaries, like the user having to have a firm grasp on their own standards so they don't ever accidently mess themselves up with their own power. Maybe they create a preset (like creating a general scale for standards ranging from 1-10 or something) and they then use telepathy to superimpose this change in standards over the target's own, rewriting them.

this idea if from inception but what would be if the OC has a simple figure which only he knows and he can only use his power while touching the small object...

it helps his mind to focus on the mind of others and not his own...

because standarts are mostly similar, like that of "danger", "stupid", "useless" "necessary"...

and therefore he needs to be careful not to change his own mind...

btw, this "change" is it temporary or does it even work after a person, like accel, acivated its protection?
because i think the latter case would make his powers different from mental out...

demino_hellsin · 2014-09-23, 19:08

I haven't thought so far ahead as pressing the details and limitations of the ability. But the initial idea is that it completely removes the frame of reference from the decision making process of the target. It could be done without contact but I haven't decided how to know which standard is being affected.

silverexorcist · 2014-09-23, 19:26

This all goes back to how little we know about telepathy in this series. Kamachi-dono seriously needs to address it at some point...like volume 11, damn it, I just realized that it's the perfect opportunity.

Basically, the idea is reasonable, but I can't see it going higher than level 3 if all it affects is standards. I can't see it working as anything but telepathy, since making it psychokinesis implies something completely different. So I don't really think contact really works, unless the user transmits information through the skin, or something.

Speaking of esper powers, what do you think of an esper that can manipulate Euclidean Space? I've been thinking this through and it requires a lot. Basically, the user perceives the world around them in a three-dimensional coordinate grid (to them, space can literally be defined by three coordinates for the x, y, and z access). They bend space by changing the 'viewing window' of the grid and altering the values of each coordinate, so they can literally redirect attacks without actually effecting the values of real space, since distance won't change. Other abilities might include something similar to teleportation by directly changing coordinates (or 'glitching', as I've taken to calling it, though that involves a plot point) and even manipulating scalar quantities, though I'm having trouble rationalizing this after my initially inspiration.

Basically, I'm reexamining calculus because this power seems really interesting and viable to me, but the details really tax my knowledge of math.

demino_hellsin · 2014-09-23, 22:39

I had a similar idea once about bending space. Basically you view the 3 dimensional space as a kind of 2 dimensional cloth. The power allows you to twist and turn it without affecting how things would interact in that space if it passed through. It's like being able to twist a bottle that can go back to its original shape while the way water flows in is not affected. If your twist the bottle then the water enters in a twisted manner as well. It's okay for water and air because they don't mind. but the problem is with solid mass. If the container which is indestructible is twisted with a solid mass inside, shouldn't the solid matter follow the change in shape of the container?

Is it something like that?

What if the ability to make someone lose or change their standards of things is arbitrary and remote? how badly would that end up for anybody? Also, the ability skews the subconsciousness and not calculative thought. It's like losing a reference point instead of being unable to calculate at all. Would that affect accelerator even with his defense up? I actually vote yes.

2014-09-20, 20:32	Link #6906
silverexorcist Tropes/cliché expert Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: The one place you didn't think of.	New Chapter of a Certain Collection of Events is out. I'm starting to look for a balance between humor and actual seriousness. I like what I had back in chapter 2, but I can't seem to reach that equilibrium again, no matter how hard I try... Reading through what you guys mentioned, I realize that people should seriously put more focus on the minor characters who are ignored, or at least situations that are given no love in the series. Which would you prefer; a scene with the many Christian girls (plus a washing machine) in their room, or Laura Stuart trolling Electra, the Jeans Shop Owner, the tour guide, and various other Necessarius members? __________________

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FlyingCow65 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Here and there	How does a "Daily life with a monster girl x To aru" crossover sounds? The monster girl are replaced with the Index characters, for example: Suu a slime who eats almost everything with Index? Last edited by FlyingCow65; 2014-09-20 at 23:14. Reason: grammar

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LevelSeven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Germany	I suddenly recognized something interesting Im not sure if others "saw" it too but only one (or so) week after i posted my idea with" otakus into toaru" (the ones who helped be developing this idea should remember it (i hope)) i saw two new fanfics created with a similar idea "real world human into toaru (into mikoto)" Im not implying anything, but i cant stop smiling, exspecially because i didnt saw any toaru-ff with this kind of plot Maybe it is just a coincidence EDIT: Btw, guys, could you imagine a emo #1? someone with zero confidence and only depressing thoughts despite his power to destroy the world? why am i writing this ideas? Well, i have so many ideas, most of them are boring BUT some are really good, like "back to the past" and "to aru no switch"... And i hope i will read FF's with a idea i posted here :-) Last edited by LevelSeven; 2014-09-21 at 04:54.

2014-09-23, 12:48	Link #6916
silverexorcist Tropes/cliché expert Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: The one place you didn't think of.	I agree with level three. The ability sounds like something that should be reproductable by Mental Out. It's most limited by the fact that the user can change standards, but how this affects the target depends on surroundings. But like Mental Out, it should have self-imposed boundaries, like the user having to have a firm grasp on their own standards so they don't ever accidently mess themselves up with their own power. Maybe they create a preset (like creating a general scale for standards ranging from 1-10 or something) and they then use telepathy to superimpose this change in standards over the target's own, rewriting them. __________________

2014-09-23, 19:26	Link #6919
silverexorcist Tropes/cliché expert Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: The one place you didn't think of.	This all goes back to how little we know about telepathy in this series. Kamachi-dono seriously needs to address it at some point...like volume 11, damn it, I just realized that it's the perfect opportunity. Basically, the idea is reasonable, but I can't see it going higher than level 3 if all it affects is standards. I can't see it working as anything but telepathy, since making it psychokinesis implies something completely different. So I don't really think contact really works, unless the user transmits information through the skin, or something. Speaking of esper powers, what do you think of an esper that can manipulate Euclidean Space? I've been thinking this through and it requires a lot. Basically, the user perceives the world around them in a three-dimensional coordinate grid (to them, space can literally be defined by three coordinates for the x, y, and z access). They bend space by changing the 'viewing window' of the grid and altering the values of each coordinate, so they can literally redirect attacks without actually effecting the values of real space, since distance won't change. Other abilities might include something similar to teleportation by directly changing coordinates (or 'glitching', as I've taken to calling it, though that involves a plot point) and even manipulating scalar quantities, though I'm having trouble rationalizing this after my initially inspiration. Basically, I'm reexamining calculus because this power seems really interesting and viable to me, but the details really tax my knowledge of math. __________________

2014-09-20, 15:37	Link #6901
JaDe In NighT Lolis are JUSTICE Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: In a fantasy Age: 27	True most of them are for MikotoxKuroko , ToumaxMikoto there was one for Frenda but its dead

2014-09-20, 18:35	Link #6905
dniv I’m sorry, Kamijou-san!! Join Date: May 2013 Location: California	I feel like the best fics for me are the fics that explore what would have happened in the story if A or B hadn't happened (or had happened like with the Frenda fanfic) in a certain character's backstory, and as a result the character becomes different and can be seen in a new light. Kamachi actually gives us a lot of details about the characters and if followed straight like Ferret does which is allowed to draw on a lot of the information from the actual verse, it makes it a lot more fun to read and it gets the added benefit of being set in To aru verse. If a fic screws with personalities without giving reasons or just changes things to be out of character, then it is just wish-fulfillment. The fics that explore character development that could happen are much more fun for me since they're believable, but they just didn't happen in the main story because of certain events that did or didn't happen. It's also very hard to come out with good fic ideas because it takes a lot of work. I normally never read any fanfiction, but some of the people here mark exceptions to that trend for me, because it not only relates to To aru verse, but is something I really enjoy reading, since I feel like it's done well. I have no experience writing fan-fics (well very little...) so I can't really say much else about it.

2014-09-21, 11:10	Link #6911
JaDe In NighT Lolis are JUSTICE Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: In a fantasy Age: 27	I'll root for you Ferret

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JaDe In NighT Lolis are JUSTICE Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: In a fantasy Age: 27	The entire series will be how he is sulking in dark roads

2014-09-23, 12:07	Link #6914
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Would the ability to distort somebody's standards be considered dangerous? And by standards I mean all standards. They still see the same thing but they can't quantify it, neither can they judge quality based on their standards. For example, someone affected by the power is given a weight of 1kilo to carry and that should be the standard of weight. But when confronted with a metric ton weight, they can't concieve that a metric ton is 1000kg or more like they can't conceive what 1kg is.

2014-09-23, 19:08	Link #6918
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	I haven't thought so far ahead as pressing the details and limitations of the ability. But the initial idea is that it completely removes the frame of reference from the decision making process of the target. It could be done without contact but I haven't decided how to know which standard is being affected.

2014-09-23, 22:39	Link #6920
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	I had a similar idea once about bending space. Basically you view the 3 dimensional space as a kind of 2 dimensional cloth. The power allows you to twist and turn it without affecting how things would interact in that space if it passed through. It's like being able to twist a bottle that can go back to its original shape while the way water flows in is not affected. If your twist the bottle then the water enters in a twisted manner as well. It's okay for water and air because they don't mind. but the problem is with solid mass. If the container which is indestructible is twisted with a solid mass inside, shouldn't the solid matter follow the change in shape of the container? Is it something like that? What if the ability to make someone lose or change their standards of things is arbitrary and remote? how badly would that end up for anybody? Also, the ability skews the subconsciousness and not calculative thought. It's like losing a reference point instead of being unable to calculate at all. Would that affect accelerator even with his defense up? I actually vote yes.