2008-04-15, 15:19 | Link #301 | |
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If they just sliced and diced and sidestepped attacks they'd make opponent like bull-Kallen look even more ridiculous, and they sure can't afford that if they want to sell merchandise. what other real pilots does the order have other than those guys Aquaman OS?
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2008-04-15, 15:30 | Link #302 |
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Kallen just pilots her current KMF the way it is supposed to be used, it is specialized for close combat and using its arm to destroy its opponents ASAP.
Just because it is simple doesn't mean it is as easy as "side-step and slash" otherwise the likes of Suzaku would have already defeated Kallen, and easily as well. I could just as easily argue that the Gawain was a boring mech cause it's only real capability was the Hadron Cannons, otherwise C.C. and Lelouch where worthless as pilots. The Lancelot is the typical "good at everything" mech we see in every mech combat series, so it is not terribly interesting either. The Vincent appears to be along the same lines as well, not even adding in the capabilities of Rollo. ------------- Kallen's own piloting skills were shown before she got the Gurren, and Lelouch found she was the most skilled pilot at his disposal at the time, and that didn't change when Todou and the others joined up. (Seeing as the Gurren stayed with Kallen) Most of the Order pilots are pretty decent as well, not on the level of the Cornelia's Knights, but certainly on par with Britannia's standing military KMF. (Trained soldiers)
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2008-04-15, 15:44 | Link #303 |
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She's been overusing her most powerful weapon from the beginning in every situation, even when just crushing the opponent would suffice.
Like i said they had to make Lancelot do fancy stuff to make Guren up to par. Of course they should defeat her like that, but it's anime and battles don't go that way. And Gawain was a boring mech, no argument there. _________ i doubt Todou or any of his guys would want to pilot Gurren anyway. Todou buttshots? wtf XDD
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2008-04-15, 15:50 | Link #304 | |
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and the Gekkas have the exact same cockpit as the Guren. You should feel blessed you haven't noticed any Toudou butt shots yet! (I think I can remember an Asahina one in 17. >_> <_<) |
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2008-04-15, 15:51 | Link #305 | |
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Hey, if it isn't broken, don't fix it. If some guy gets owned by the Guren's arm trick after she's gone through 10 guys previous, guess what, that just means that #11 sucks. She can consistantly trap people into a position where she can use that arm's ability - she's good. Overused? Isn't the mech MADE to use that ability REPEATEDLY in the first place? Guren can't move like Lancelot can because not only of the difference in the mech design but also the difference in the respective pilots themselves - no sense in giving it similar weapons. It's like giving a right-handed, power-hitting karate student a 3-section staff for the first time. Result = LOL.
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2008-04-15, 15:52 | Link #306 |
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Lancelot always did fancy stuff, even before the Gurren was introduced.
We also don't know the the Claw arm has the capability to simply "crush" other mechs without the charge, just like the Lancelot's swords might not be able to cut other Mechs if it wasn't for its special properties. Kallen has proven to be an extremely flexible fighter, even in the Gurren. She isn't the one who designed the mech either, she just pilots the thing, not her fault that its primary weapon is a Radiation-Wave Claw, and all its other weapons are purely for support. What do you consider an "interesting" mech anyway, and who doesn't use their most powerful weapon as often as possible? If you give me a weapon with several modes of fire, but one was clearly more effective then the others, then by God I'll use the most effective one. --- Female fans might appreciate it (I doubt it) if they get some fanservice as well.
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2008-04-15, 15:55 | Link #307 |
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Yeah same design. Just think how easily Todou could have beaten Guiford if they only threw in a few shots of his powerful well toned manly ass. (It's Todou! DA DAH!)
In all seriousness though Todou and friends have their own specific fighting style that requires their swords. So its not surprising he wouldn't have them switch. The Gekka's seem custom made for them anyway. |
2008-04-15, 15:59 | Link #308 | |
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Those 5 may have always been intended for Toudou and the 4 holy swords, but they were also intended to be test models for eventual mass production. (Green MP Gekkas! horray! ) |
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She crushed mercs easily and tore them apart without the mircowave. She could've ask for improvements, like any decent pilot would. If it works don't improve it isn't really an option when you're fighing against an empire. Lancelot is balanced enough for me. Even if you nerf its weapons it still has more options available than others. Gurren itself isn't that bad, it's just Kallen uses it in a way that makes me want to facepalm. I don't say she couldn't beat Lancelot, but never in a straight one on one with just rushing straight on hoping to get a good hit...erm... grab.
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We don't upgrade weapons like that on the fly, it takes time and research, and soldiers can't just request upgrades when their current gear works better then great. Quote:
To Radiation-Wave Claw, Arm-mounted cannon, secondary knife (defense), flight (this season), Smash Hawks. Not really that much of a difference, Suzaku's mech just has a (single) superior ranged weapon, while Kallen's is specialized for melee, not much of a difference. Quote:
Considering Suzaku's strategy is generally charge right in, dodging the enemy fire, he fights exactly the same was Kallen does, with the added benefit of having a beam cannon.
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2008-04-15, 21:25 | Link #317 | |
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2008-04-15, 22:11 | Link #318 |
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what i'm surprised at is that she hasn't run out of radiation cartridges in her fights. she uses them enough...
and in the lancelot vs gurren debate, lancelot has the edge in all categories except mobility, in which they're equal. the radiation arm has a delay between activation and execution, lancelot has two swords... you do the math. except since its an anime, it'll never play out properly.. |
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