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Kurizu204 · 2010-09-14, 06:58

So anyone going to make a patch for the pc version with the sprites, voices, and cgs?
I WANT TO BELIEVE!
http://www.umine.co/
Im stoked it has the same VA as the anime adaptation.

**Klashikari** · 2010-09-14, 07:06

I will not allow such kind of discussion here.

Discussion regarding that kind of patch is definitely in the piracy zone, which is forbidden.
Furthermore, this is also going against the clause about 07th Expansion regarding their game.

If you wish to play the game with all of these features, please buy the PS3 game instead.

DaBackpack · 2010-09-14, 16:28

The Witch-Hunt Translation Project will not concern the Alchemist spin-offs, will it?

Firstly, I would imagine that, being from Alchemist, it would be illegal to modify the game from a patch.
Then, of course, comes the fact that it is on the PlayStation 3 instead of PC.

Don't get me wrong; it would be cool to be able to read the PS3 VN in English. But if it's not possible, then you could just use the PC VN translation and read alongside the PS3 version. I'm sure most of us have memorized what happens anyway

I am going to get it anyway to see my favorite scenes re-done anyway. So is it a possibility to convert the already translated EP1-4 scripts into the new game? Assuming that Alchemist doesn't change it too much.

((I'm sorry if this is a touchy topic or if it's in the wrong subforum. I'm just asking.))

I understand that translating EP7-8 is the highest priority of the project. I'm not trying to ask extra of you or anything.

Renall · 2010-09-14, 16:30

It's almost certain to be rescripted to accomodate the new CG scenes and the ability to have multiple sprites present over the NScripter version (such as showing six of the Stakes at once). To say nothing of the change to the text window which will probably chop the script up slightyl differently. So I would imagine the scripting will not match exactly. You could still follow along, but I do not think it would match up with WH's english translation of the VNs very well at all.

I suppose you could follow up in the PS3 game thread and see how the script has been changed, if at all, but my guess is it won't be quite that easy as keeping a laptop open next to the TV.

Poetic Justice · 2010-09-14, 17:08

Glad to hear that the patch for part 7 is coming along nicely. I just finished part 6 and though the ending felt flat i'm eager to see where it goes from here on.

Leafsnail · 2010-09-14, 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renall

It's almost certain to be rescripted to accomodate the new CG scenes and the ability to have multiple sprites present over the NScripter version (such as showing six of the Stakes at once).

Spoiler for ep2:

Judoh · 2010-09-14, 17:32

Well if they ever make an Alchemist USA or UK branch (can't really find one online) they would know who to ask for a translated script.

lesengirz · 2010-09-14, 17:38

I doubt it, those games never come to usa, for pc some has made it way officially to the usa, but not in consoles.

DaBackpack · 2010-09-14, 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renall

It's almost certain to be rescripted to accomodate the new CG scenes and the ability to have multiple sprites present over the NScripter version (such as showing six of the Stakes at once). To say nothing of the change to the text window which will probably chop the script up slightyl differently. So I would imagine the scripting will not match exactly. You could still follow along, but I do not think it would match up with WH's english translation of the VNs very well at all.

I suppose you could follow up in the PS3 game thread and see how the script has been changed, if at all, but my guess is it won't be quite that easy as keeping a laptop open next to the TV.

I realize that it would be redone a bit. But instead of "line-by-line" it would be "scene-by-scene." However, I suppose this would be pretty impractical.

I hope they don't change it THAT much, anyway.

Kite22 · 2010-09-16, 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by lesengirz

I doubt it, those games never come to usa, for pc some has made it way officially to the usa, but not in consoles.

Well Visual Novels have gained a little more popularity in the U.S. lately, I'm not sure we can say it will never happen. A big name company probably wouldn't touch it, but a smaller company like ATLUS or NISA may consider it if requested enough since niche titles are their specialty and ATLUS games have limited runs so they don't expect large sales. Theirs topics on both the ATLUS and NISA boards requesting they bring them over.

Mikachiru · 2010-09-16, 20:21

NIS America did Disgaea Infinite, which is a VN. Then again, it's part of the Disgaea series...

Wshadow · 2010-09-16, 22:13

Hi,
we just created (still recruiting, etc) a new translation group (English-Brazilian) since other gave up on it...

Would it be any problem if we used your translation?

We will, of course, follow yours policies. '-'

We just began it but I wanted to your approval as soon as possible...

CainSonozaki · 2010-09-16, 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leafsnail

Spoiler for ep2:

i was sure they stacked all 7 stakes (hehe that sounds funny) a couple times. i know in 5 they did, though lucifer was in the foreground and everyone else was stacked behind her

Jadice · 2010-09-18, 07:03

I find it hilarious that people actually think they have the right to complain about something that is given to them for absolutely nothing.

I see less complaints on MangaGamers forums and they charge people quite a bit for their not-so-good translations.

Mirrored · 2010-09-18, 13:30

Eh, to chime in on the status update thing.

I for one don't care that much-- I trust that you're working making progress etc. You've released 6 of these things, I don't think you guys are suddenly going to decide to quit when you're nearly done and have basically everything you need in place.

But if there is no intent to use % progress, why list the 0%? I mean, 0% is not really an accurate representation of where you guys are at.

I think a simple:

"In Progress!" or "In Progress..."

is a much better way of representing what's going on. I chuckle a bit when I see the 0% because I can imagine a whole bunch of people being like "WHAT 0%??!?!?!? OMG MEANWHILE AT WITCH-HUNT..."

The % thing is probably not a great way to track your work style. It works great for people who are doing line by line translations, all the way through, but it may not represent WH accurately to everyone else.

So it may be a good idea to just change it to "In Progress" and then update on any delays that happen.

But, as far as I'm concerned, there are only four status updates needed:

Started and On Track
Started, there's going to be a delay.
Near complete.
Complete.

Anything else is basically just throwing out percents without any real need for it.

I wish you guys luck as you continue with this translation and really look forward to your next release.

LaplaceNoMa · 2010-09-18, 15:17

I agree. That would be the best solution to this whole 'problem'.

**Klashikari** · 2010-09-18, 15:24

I certainly see it much more convenient for everyone. I don't exactly mind either the "conventional %" or this one, although the latter has the least negative impact if we are to be loose on updating the status.
Will discuss with chrono about it.

Witch of Uncertainty · 2010-09-19, 14:40

Mind if I ask how long it usually takes to translate an episode? I've only experienced waiting for ep 6, since ep 5 released immediatly after I was done with Ep 4, and I remember that you were busy a lot, etc. Or is it normal that it takes around 6 months? (Please don't take it the wrong way, I am just curious. )

Renall · 2010-09-19, 14:48

Since the ep4 finished patch they've come out at or shortly before the time the next episode is released. For instance, they beat ep7 by a couple weeks here, but not by a margin of months and months or anything.

I can't speak for how the effort is going but I would ballpark ep7's translation as a November/December thing. They'd have to be superhuman to finish by October, and I don't think it reasonable to expect them to be.

Sonozaki Futagotachi · 2010-09-19, 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by oatmeal

EDIT: OK - actually, it seems like this change below didn't work or even do anything. Looking in my save directory, I see that the program seems to save files with different prefixes each time I run it.
...

Hi oatmeal & others,

Just letting you guys know that we've just made a new release of onscripter-en that should take care of this save issue, along with some other bugs. It's also got some nice error message popups for Windows and Mac OS X.

If you've been having problems playing Umineko, give this release a try and let me know if you still have problems. I'd like to make sure bugs are fixed before the next patch release

Uncle Mion

2010-09-14, 07:06	Link #4682
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	I will not allow such kind of discussion here. Discussion regarding that kind of patch is definitely in the piracy zone, which is forbidden. Furthermore, this is also going against the clause about 07th Expansion regarding their game. If you wish to play the game with all of these features, please buy the PS3 game instead. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2010-09-14, 16:30	Link #4684
Renall BUY MY BOOK!!! Join Date: May 2009	It's almost certain to be rescripted to accomodate the new CG scenes and the ability to have multiple sprites present over the NScripter version (such as showing six of the Stakes at once). To say nothing of the change to the text window which will probably chop the script up slightyl differently. So I would imagine the scripting will not match exactly. You could still follow along, but I do not think it would match up with WH's english translation of the VNs very well at all. I suppose you could follow up in the PS3 game thread and see how the script has been changed, if at all, but my guess is it won't be quite that easy as keeping a laptop open next to the TV. __________________ Redaction of the Golden Witch I submit that a murder was committed in 1996. This murder was a "copycat" crime inspired by our tales of 1986. This story is a redacted confession. Blog (VN DL) - YouTube Playlists Battler Solves The Logic Error

2010-09-14, 17:08	Link #4685
Poetic Justice 100Shots100Hits LuluLaLu Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Inside your heart... Age: 35	Glad to hear that the patch for part 7 is coming along nicely. I just finished part 6 and though the ending felt flat i'm eager to see where it goes from here on. __________________

2010-09-14, 17:38	Link #4688
lesengirz Detective Join Date: Sep 2006	I doubt it, those games never come to usa, for pc some has made it way officially to the usa, but not in consoles. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/lesengir

2010-09-16, 20:21	Link #4691
Mikachiru test Join Date: Jan 2009 Age: 30	NIS America did Disgaea Infinite, which is a VN. Then again, it's part of the Disgaea series... __________________

2010-09-14, 06:58	Link #4681
Kurizu204 Member Join Date: Nov 2009	So anyone going to make a patch for the pc version with the sprites, voices, and cgs? I WANT TO BELIEVE! http://www.umine.co/ Im stoked it has the same VA as the anime adaptation.

2010-09-14, 16:28	Link #4683
DaBackpack Blick Winkel Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Gobbled up by Promathia	The Witch-Hunt Translation Project will not concern the Alchemist spin-offs, will it? Firstly, I would imagine that, being from Alchemist, it would be illegal to modify the game from a patch. Then, of course, comes the fact that it is on the PlayStation 3 instead of PC. Don't get me wrong; it would be cool to be able to read the PS3 VN in English. But if it's not possible, then you could just use the PC VN translation and read alongside the PS3 version. I'm sure most of us have memorized what happens anyway I am going to get it anyway to see my favorite scenes re-done anyway. So is it a possibility to convert the already translated EP1-4 scripts into the new game? Assuming that Alchemist doesn't change it too much. ((I'm sorry if this is a touchy topic or if it's in the wrong subforum. I'm just asking.)) I understand that translating EP7-8 is the highest priority of the project. I'm not trying to ask extra of you or anything.

2010-09-14, 17:32	Link #4687
Judoh Mystery buff Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Gone Fishin!	Well if they ever make an Alchemist USA or UK branch (can't really find one online) they would know who to ask for a translated script.

2010-09-16, 22:13	Link #4692
Wshadow Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010	To Witch Hunt Hi, we just created (still recruiting, etc) a new translation group (English-Brazilian) since other gave up on it... Would it be any problem if we used your translation? We will, of course, follow yours policies. '-' We just began it but I wanted to your approval as soon as possible...

2010-09-18, 07:03	Link #4694
Jadice Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Perth, Australia Age: 29	I find it hilarious that people actually think they have the right to complain about something that is given to them for absolutely nothing. I see less complaints on MangaGamers forums and they charge people quite a bit for their not-so-good translations.

2010-09-18, 13:30	Link #4695
Mirrored Member Join Date: Dec 2009	Eh, to chime in on the status update thing. I for one don't care that much-- I trust that you're working making progress etc. You've released 6 of these things, I don't think you guys are suddenly going to decide to quit when you're nearly done and have basically everything you need in place. But if there is no intent to use % progress, why list the 0%? I mean, 0% is not really an accurate representation of where you guys are at. I think a simple: "In Progress!" or "In Progress..." is a much better way of representing what's going on. I chuckle a bit when I see the 0% because I can imagine a whole bunch of people being like "WHAT 0%??!?!?!? OMG MEANWHILE AT WITCH-HUNT..." The % thing is probably not a great way to track your work style. It works great for people who are doing line by line translations, all the way through, but it may not represent WH accurately to everyone else. So it may be a good idea to just change it to "In Progress" and then update on any delays that happen. But, as far as I'm concerned, there are only four status updates needed: Started and On Track Started, there's going to be a delay. Near complete. Complete. Anything else is basically just throwing out percents without any real need for it. I wish you guys luck as you continue with this translation and really look forward to your next release.

2010-09-18, 15:17	Link #4696
LaplaceNoMa Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Russia, Moscow Age: 35	I agree. That would be the best solution to this whole 'problem'.

2010-09-18, 15:24	Link #4697
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv180 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 37	I certainly see it much more convenient for everyone. I don't exactly mind either the "conventional %" or this one, although the latter has the least negative impact if we are to be loose on updating the status. Will discuss with chrono about it. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2010-09-19, 14:40	Link #4698
Witch of Uncertainty Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010	Mind if I ask how long it usually takes to translate an episode? I've only experienced waiting for ep 6, since ep 5 released immediatly after I was done with Ep 4, and I remember that you were busy a lot, etc. Or is it normal that it takes around 6 months? (Please don't take it the wrong way, I am just curious. )

2010-09-19, 14:48	Link #4699
Renall BUY MY BOOK!!! Join Date: May 2009	Since the ep4 finished patch they've come out at or shortly before the time the next episode is released. For instance, they beat ep7 by a couple weeks here, but not by a margin of months and months or anything. I can't speak for how the effort is going but I would ballpark ep7's translation as a November/December thing. They'd have to be superhuman to finish by October, and I don't think it reasonable to expect them to be. __________________ Redaction of the Golden Witch I submit that a murder was committed in 1996. This murder was a "copycat" crime inspired by our tales of 1986. This story is a redacted confession. Blog (VN DL) - YouTube Playlists Battler Solves The Logic Error