(L) Mokushiroku no Yonkishi (The Four Knights of the Apocalypse)

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

You think Anne's power is the ability to see through lies and deception? She was also able to tell that Ironside is lying. It was in the beginning of Chapter 14 as well.

It was pretty much spelled out in the chapter. It's a very useful ability, but not one meant for fighting.

[WingedAccelerator]

In before it's Galand's Truth Commandment.

[marvelB]

^If that were the case, wouldn't Ironside and her own father be stone statues already?

[WingedAccelerator]

The Truth was stated by Nakaba to be only working if the affected people know they are lying. While it's a reach on my part, and obviously it was a joke, if the affected truly believes what they are saying to be the right in a situation like An's father most likely protecting her, or they are natural liars without any guilt like Ironside, they could be unaffacted. Then again Merlin also tried protecting by lying, and failed.

By the way, I like the Deathpierce theories, even that floating Chaos meeting place for the knights looks like a tower from Edingburgh (Based on Vampires of Edinburgh), where he supposedly has his human kingdom. So if the culprit is Deathpierce, how did he get Chaos? Another bothersome thing is that they are still going to Camelot, and Sin not even once said that the Arthur comments are obviously false from the knights. I would imagine he is working for him if Deathpierce is the culprit, but he said Ironside and the knights are in Camelot serving a certain evil king, panel made to look like Arthur. So it doesn't add up.

[marvelB]

New chapter time:

Spoiler for 16:

When asked about the coffin, Sin explains that it's a tool used to seal away the demon clan by sacrificing the lives of the goddesses. Donnie is confused, since he thought the demons vanished after the war, but Sin says he'll elaborate later. The pressing issue is the activation method for the coffin.... since there are no goddesses around to activate it, the fox surmises that Ironside will sacrifice Sistana's villagers instead!

Percy wants to stop Ironside, but Sin warns him he's still no match for his father. We then learn the coffin comprises five parts: The Fairy, Giant, Goddess, Dragon (which represents Chaos), and Human. Ironside claims that the Liones kingdom is using the demon clan to destroy Britannia, but Anne calls him out on his lie. This doesn't stop the knight, as he proceeds to grab the girl! This action forces Percy to reveal himself, as he uses his golems to distract his father! He then rescues Anne from his father's grasp! Ironside tries to stop them, but they manage to slip away.

Meanwhile, Donnie's group run into the maid who was searching for Anne earlier.... who's now holding the last fragment of the coffin! She then turns into a winged creature and flies away with the relief! It turns out that "maid" was one of Ironside's familiars all along....... and now he has the complete coffin in his possession! He now intends to slaughter the entire village to activate it. Sin explains that in order to stop Ironside, they need to either destroy the coffin, or steal one of the 5 fragments. Anne says she'll help Percy's group, as well. The mission begins, now.....!!!!

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BTW, I think I mentioned a while back that there would be a new NNT data book releasing soon, yes? Well, it recently came out, and it features an interview where Suzuki discusses the links between NNT and this series. He even touches upon King and Diane's children at one point! As translated by FKS at MH:

Q: What has become of King and Diane who returned to the Fairy World? Will they be depicted later in MnY...?
A: I think so. Because there will be developments that lead me to draw not just King and the others' countries but every country. Every SDS member, minus Escanor, will appear there in some sort of form.
Q: Is that so?
A: However they won't appear this early yet (laughs). I plan to bring King and Diane's kid in the story. Actually, in Arthurian mythology, there are siblings that make you wonder "how many there are?" but I plan on revising that. But I think it's alright to have characters with plenty of children.

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^Hmm, so it looks like the fairy/giant couple may have more than one child, eh....?

[Kanon]

Father and son were finally reunited. I guess the reason Ironside wants to activate the coffin of darkness is to seal Meliodas away? Since he should be the only demon in Britannia, and he's obviously a big threat.

Originally Posted by marvelB

^Hmm, so it looks like the fairy/giant couple may have more than one child, eh....?

They made a football team

[DragonOsman]

Originally Posted by WingedAccelerator

The Truth was stated by Nakaba to be only working if the affected people know they are lying. While it's a reach on my part, and obviously it was a joke, if the affected truly believes what they are saying to be the right in a situation like An's father most likely protecting her, or they are natural liars without any guilt like Ironside, they could be unaffacted. Then again Merlin also tried protecting by lying, and failed.

By the way, I like the Deathpierce theories, even that floating Chaos meeting place for the knights looks like a tower from Edingburgh (Based on Vampires of Edinburgh), where he supposedly has his human kingdom. So if the culprit is Deathpierce, how did he get Chaos? Another bothersome thing is that they are still going to Camelot, and Sin not even once said that the Arthur comments are obviously false from the knights. I would imagine he is working for him if Deathpierce is the culprit, but he said Ironside and the knights are in Camelot serving a certain evil king, panel made to look like Arthur. So it doesn't add up.

I think either Arthur was corrupted by Chaos and is also working with Deathpierce, or Arthur doesn't know anything and is being manipulated by Deathpierce. Either way, the king is still Arthur. He's the King of Chaos, after all. I don't think it could be anyone else.

@marvelB: Thanks for the spoiler and the info from the new databook.

Should've known the Coffin would get completed.

Now hopefully they managed to fix this whole mess and stop Ironside from succeeding in whatever it is he wants to do. Especially if Kanon's right and he wants to seal away Meliodas. And I guess Donnie doesn't know that Liones is ruled by a goddess and a demon?

[Kanon]

I think Ironside will actually succeed, and that bringing his father back will be Tristan's main motive to join up with Percival.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Father and son were finally reunited. I guess the reason Ironside wants to activate the coffin of darkness is to seal Meliodas away? Since he should be the only demon in Britannia, and he's obviously a big threat.



They made a football team

It seems more likely to me that he wants to use it to seal his son and the other horsemen as they show up. I could see Mel getting sealed in Tristans place to protect his son leading to Tristan joining Percy to free him.

[marvelB]

Come to think of it, if Percy's group decides to steal one of the coffin pieces, I wonder if they'll go for the Chaos dragon? In case anyone forgot, it used to be the hilt of that broken sword Mel used early in NNT.... before it was stolen and used to unseal the demon clan from the coffin. Perhaps the hilt could be fitted with a new blade, then returned to its original owner (or given to Tristan, which I guess is more likely) after 16 years....?

[DragonOsman]

@cyberdemon: If the Coffin is meant to be used to seal away demons, could it really be used to seal humans away? I guess if they can use humans as a sacrifice to activate it in place of goddesses, then this might work too?

@marbelB: Interesting idea. I'd actually like to see either Meliodas get that sword back or his son inheriting it.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by DragonOsman

@cyberdemon: If the Coffin is meant to be used to seal away demons, could it really be used to seal humans away? I guess if they can use humans as a sacrifice to activate it in place of goddesses, then this might work too?

@marbelB: Interesting idea. I'd actually like to see either Meliodas get that sword back or his son inheriting it.

All it is actually known for is from sealing away the demon race. That doesn’t mean it can’t seal other races. Just that it’s only known use was for that

[marvelB]

Next chapter!

Spoiler for 17:

Sin tells the group to stop the ritual, but once again warns Percy against fighting Ironside, as he's too powerful for them to handle. As the group sets off, the boys and Anne introduce themselves to each other, and make some small talk. In particular, Percy refers to Ironside as his grandfather's enemy....

Meanwhile, Ironside's ritual has begun! It turns out the ritual summons several grotesque monsters, which the knight refers to as the Dead of Chaos. He also calls forth his familiar from last chapter (name seems to be something like Daraku), whom he instructs to lead the monster army in order to make sure none of the townsfolk escape! When Percy's group sees the monsters, the boy himself says not to worry, as Sin will take care of them. Anne voices her suspicions about the fox, saying he's either lying about or concealing something.... but Percy simply trusts Sin, no questions asked.

The group comes across Anne's father, who's unconscious. Nearby is Ironside, who says he'd have already slaughtered the lot of them if he weren't concentrating on the ritual. Nonetheless, Percy demands he cease his actions, but his father replies that he's being rude.... and unleashes his magical power! The other three are freaked, with Donnie noting that Ironside is on a completely different level from Talisker (the Amber Knight from earlier). However, this doesn't stop Percy, who goes on to crush his father with his magic! Unfortunately, Ironside isn't harmed at all, and merely says his son is severely lacking in discipline....!!!!

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[DragonOsman]

So Sin really is hiding something (I don't think he's lying about everything he's told them--there are probably some lies mixed in, though).

[Kanon]

I'm very curious to see how Sin is going to stop these monsters.

[DragonOsman]

Yes, same here. But I also want to see how Anne will react when she learns that Ironside is Percival's father. She did say that his son must be as bad as he is.

And I'm also looking forward to learning what he's hiding from them or lying to them about. Maybe him being Ban is included.

[marvelB]

In the latest chapter:

Spoiler for 18:

As the group reels in shock from the failed attack on Ironside, Percy tries targeting the coffin itself next! Alas, he's unable to damage that with his magic, as well. Ironside asks him if he knows what the knights' purpose is, but Percy dodges the question (since he doesn't know the answer, heh). After launching an attack on the group, Ironside says he needs to teach his son some discipline as a father.... which confuses Anne. Nasciens proceeds to fill her in on Percy's history with Ironside. Soon, Donnie proposes escaping their opponent, but the others refuse.... leaving Donnie alone to abandon his companions out of fear.

Percy attempts to attack Ironside once more, but the knight blocks all his strikes! As the boy gets pushed to the ground, Ironside prepares to finish him off.... when his next strike gets blocked by Anne! It's now her turn to face the knight, and while she shows off some impressive swordsmanship, Ironside fends off all her strikes, as well! During the battle, Anne's father regains consciousness just in time for him to watch his daughter in action. As Anne relaxes her flurry, bits of her outfit are torn off from the enemy knight's strikes! However, it does seem she left a scratch on him.... and suddenly, his body goes numb! This was Nasciens' handiwork, who poisoned the knight with Henbane. Anne rips off her dress, showing that she's fully serious, now (Percy comments on how cool she looks, heh ). Ironside, however, only becomes enraged by the "undisciplined" brats, and vows to show them all true despair....!!!!

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[DragonOsman]

Thanks for the spoiler.

Spoiler for 18:

So now Anne knows about Ironside and Percy.

I wonder if Anne's father is the overprotective type and will try to stop her from fighting Ironside.

[Kanon]

Spoiler for 18:

Rather impressive that Anne managed to keep up with Ironside, even if he wasn't being serious.

Also, boobies.

[DragonOsman]

Yeah, she did pretty well against him.

And then we have Percy who said he'll pin him down even though he can't do anything to him. I really hope he gets stronger soon.