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2010-11-13, 09:18 | Link #143 | |
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And the anime never takes precedence over the manga.
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2010-11-13, 11:35 | Link #144 |
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neither in the anime, nor manga was it ever suggested that he is a Logia (in fact, if he were, he would've shrugged off Aokijis freezing easily)
though I'm not sure if his entire body turns into diamond (you can still be NOT a logia with that) or it's just a cover-layer (like Mr. 3 wax and, presumably, Magellan) also, if a logias defences were disabled and someone cut off their arm when they were vulnerable - they'd stay armless the only one who can potentially regenerate an actual lost arm would be Marco, but Oda has said that his regen isn't limitless - so we can only guess .. I'd wager he can, but it takes a huge amount of stamina out of him I also hope that Jozu's arm is alright - wanna see more of that strength
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2010-11-13, 14:52 | Link #145 | |
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Haki only enables the person to bypass logia intangibility. When a logia user is hit by a haki-imbued attack, they still retain all of their DF abilities.
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2010-11-13, 15:22 | Link #146 | ||
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although your theory can explain why Akainu didn't die from Vista's very fatal-looking Haki-slash - you can't slice a logia apart (after all, it's made from a lifeless reforming element), only deal general 'blunt' damage to the 'spirit' of the logia-user .. either that or Akainu's own armor-haki was simply strong enough to negate Vista's that's why I'm very eagerly awaiting more fights vs logias .. Cariboo, please, son't dissapoint
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2010-11-13, 16:14 | Link #147 | |
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There seems to be an inconsistency between Rayleigh cutting Kizaru's cheek and Vista slashing Akainu's neck area. I guess we'll need some more elaboration on Haki in general.
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2010-11-14, 15:34 | Link #149 | |
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Technically, we HAVE seen some VAs get taken out (like John Giant, for instance), and Akainu was temporarily taken out of action by Whitebeard. But I think the obvious answer as to why these guys weren't permanently taken out of action is because Oda wants to show them again later in the series (again, I bring up Oda foreshadowing that there's more to Marco's DF than the regeneration....). Actually, this reminds me: Although he's not a marine, I found it interesting that a monster like Magellan was nearly killed offscreen, despite how nigh-unstoppable he seemed during the ID arc. I wonder if Oda intends to bring HIM back to the series at some point, and as a marine to boot...... |
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2010-11-14, 16:57 | Link #150 | ||
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I'm sure some VAs and NW captains were killed, along with fodder, but none of the more significant characters suffered any substantial damage, aside from Joz (and Oz Jnr, I guess). Quote:
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2010-11-14, 19:31 | Link #151 | |
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2010-11-14, 20:15 | Link #152 |
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I'm confused about the new world. According to OP wiki, Red Line encircles the world. Same goes for Grand Line. If one side of GL is more dangerous (new world) than the other. Raftel is at the other end of where the seas meet (split old seas and new world). Couldn't anyone just walk using the RL right into Raftel?
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2010-11-14, 20:24 | Link #153 | |
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2010-11-16, 21:19 | Link #158 | |
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I don't see the inconsistency with this at all. Rayleigh is totally on a higher level then Vista when it comes to haki and power. Rayleigh was the first mate of the pirate king and strong possibly that Rayleigh was stronger then Rogers in the end. I don't see how you could compare those two when they are totally on a different level. Even the marines wouldn't dare go against Rayleigh without proper preparations. I wouldn't be surprised if Akainu's and Kizaru's haki is stronger then vistas. I am sorry to say but Rayleigh is a legend like White Beard and Shanks. He can not be compared to vista. |
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2010-11-16, 21:38 | Link #160 |
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Rayleigh was the 1s mate of the pirate king who beat White beard. Rayleigh use of haki far exceeds Vistas. The proof is in the manga. Rayleigh stoods his ground against Admiral Kizaru one on one. Rayleigh was able to make Kizaru bleed. He redirected Kizaru's lasers like Kizaru wasn't logia at all. Vista had to stand with the rest of the White beard pirates in order to slow Admiral Akainu down. Both Marco and Vista tried to hurt Akainu with haki attacks and still couldn't get past his logia defense. There is a difference and it is huge. |
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