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ZeroXSEED · 2012-07-13, 22:41

At least you don't have 10 guys like I did

Eratas123 · 2012-07-13, 22:48

I'll put in side characters, but the focus should be on Ichika and Charlotte. The other 3 girls are stuck in the "Just friends" zone. Same guys for guys (Except possibly Charles:/)

Laura in particular since their first meeting consists of her pinning a knife at his throat since she was worried he did something to Charlotte.

Would you believe the Academy is more hectic than ISA?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-07-13, 22:53

Fifty fifty.

Normally, there's no such thing as 'attempted murder goes unnoticed' except for rule of cool. I.S.A. justified it with near-absolute independence.

Rule of funny and Bellisario's Maxim definitely required.

demino_hellsin · 2012-07-13, 22:55

LiowXing, Spartan, Kiyo, the unnamed imbalanced(too heavily armed) IS.

Particularly LiowXing and Kiyo sport very unusual equipment which requires a huge amount of energy. Spartan and the imbalanced IS sport mostly physical weaponry so they would need less. Kiyo has physical weaponry too but the fact of the matter is that the arrows use a materialization mechanism which should logically use up a lot of energy. Using an algorithm flaw or glitch seems odd now that I think about it... but the fact it has an equalizer lock is the main reason this glitch exists.

LiowXing's problem is that all the energy is spent powering the shield condenser and extra energy can't be spared to make use of energy based thrusters at 100%, at least based on what I know without conclusive numbers. LiowXing is supposed to make use of Ignition Boost with a rapid-fire like capacity without requiring much from the overall system. Using propulsion gas seems plausible as a recurring source but the output seems too weak to even consider for the designed purpose...

Eratas123 · 2012-07-13, 22:59

SL Academy is a specialist school, which means that there's a branch for just about everything. Ichika, as mentioned in the intro, is in the cooking branch. Charles is in the business branch. Etc etc.

Another thing is the fact that the guys there are usually "classified". Aka, they usually fill the niche of something like "White haired pretty boy" (Vayne) or "Cute Shotaro boy" (Hope). Ichika starts out at "Mysterious Transfer student", but he changes to "Ambigously Gay" because of Charles.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-07-13, 23:02

I just remember, it was apparent that even I.S. has finite fuel. Though at far higher quantity than they store physically.

So Ignition Boost not really required so much energy, but they use ALL the fuel stored physically and thus has to materialize new batch of fuel...

Not to mention the physical strain on the compression chamber and nozzles limit their usage further.

demino_hellsin · 2012-07-13, 23:17

Making it a multi-burst ignition boost would require either a continuous delivery system or an instantaneous materialization mechanism then. Energy based thruster makes more sense If I want to incorporate such a function, but again, the restraint from the special functions compliment.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-07-13, 23:36

Well, as of V6, even Canon doesn't have rugged enough hardware to accomplish that technique. Note the revolving booster owned by [Fang Quake], the intention is that one booster can use Ignition boost once, hence multiple IB.

demino_hellsin · 2012-07-14, 00:08

How do you suppose Setsura can achieve double IB? It doesn't look like it sports any hardware similar to Fang Quake.

Eratas123 · 2012-07-14, 00:12

Going to update Synchronicity. Wish me luck

HasuMasu · 2012-07-14, 00:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by demino_hellsin

How do you suppose Setsura can achieve double IB? It doesn't look like it sports any hardware similar to Fang Quake.

Err...Double Ignition Boost is simply being able to perform Ignition Boost twice without any complications.

So yeah...

ZeroXSEED · 2012-07-14, 00:22

My first assumption that ByakuShiki Setsura has two compression chamber instead of one, which work in sync. I don't know if it means twice the output at once, or doing it twice a succession.

It's seems that anyone can do multiple IB contrary to Ichika's earlier statement in V1, normal ByakuShiki do it 3 times during first gospel battle.

The Fang Quake Design seems to be used to achieve multiple boost without delay.

demino_hellsin · 2012-07-14, 00:36

My thoughts on IB, are not far off from your own. The initial thought of it was that during operation, a compression chamber runs and continuously pressurizes propulsion fuel separate from that of the main source. Once it reaches a certain point, it stops and is ready for use. IB is achieved when the gases from this compression chamber is released, generating a huge burst of speed from the sheer pressure and high concentration of fuel molecules stored within the gas.

The idea of double IB seems to be similar to double clicking. So two IB in rapid succession, achieving something akin to instantaneous movement, but only limited to one maneuver correction while maintaining that speed boost.

Considering the fang quake's weapon compliment is only a knife thus far, it might be using the IB as a means to get close to the enemy. So the IB itself becomes the lifeline and main weapon of the machine. I actually had not known it used revolving compression chambers until it was mentioned to me. I just can't understand how Setsura can achieve multiples without commenting on its structure. Simple guesswork may see it as adding another compression chamber to what it already has.

What if an explosion is used to generate an effect similar to IB?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-07-14, 00:45

I dunno, the explosion has to be small and focused enough to fit inside the nozzle, otherwise it's a total waste of energy.

As for Fang Quake, I chalked it up to it's either being totally new and incomplete, or totally bad unit losing to Gospel in a competition. It's default speed is far cry compared to Zephyr.

Eratas123 · 2012-07-14, 00:52

Question: Is killing someone terminally ill when they ask for it murder?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-07-14, 00:54

Yeah.

By Law that is, unless you are specialist that HAVE the right for doing Euthanasia.

demino_hellsin · 2012-07-14, 00:57

Then what about a variant of the pressure canons from ShenLong?

Eratas123 · 2012-07-14, 00:57

Right, sorry for being off topic. I'm doing a paper on Euthanasia on minors and/or the terminally ill, and I'm not sure which side to take.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-07-14, 01:04

@ Demi
Well, maybe good for extremely short high acceleration burst. Remember the law of gas expansion.

Actually, that sounds like a good material for Quick boost (though you still can't do it rapidly).

@ Eras
Depends, you can use local and international stance on it, then add your own moral interpretation.

Ironically, I myself (a Nurse mind you) saw euthanasia as unnecessary, even though I consider abortion required if certain condition is met...

Eratas123 · 2012-07-14, 01:09

There is no international stance on it:/ Everybody still argues whether it's morally right or wrong.

2012-07-13, 22:41	Link #34021
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	At least you don't have 10 guys like I did __________________

2012-07-13, 22:48	Link #34022
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	I'll put in side characters, but the focus should be on Ichika and Charlotte. The other 3 girls are stuck in the "Just friends" zone. Same guys for guys (Except possibly Charles:/) Laura in particular since their first meeting consists of her pinning a knife at his throat since she was worried he did something to Charlotte. Would you believe the Academy is more hectic than ISA? __________________

2012-07-13, 22:53	Link #34023
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Fifty fifty. Normally, there's no such thing as 'attempted murder goes unnoticed' except for rule of cool. I.S.A. justified it with near-absolute independence. Rule of funny and Bellisario's Maxim definitely required. __________________

2012-07-13, 22:59	Link #34025
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	SL Academy is a specialist school, which means that there's a branch for just about everything. Ichika, as mentioned in the intro, is in the cooking branch. Charles is in the business branch. Etc etc. Another thing is the fact that the guys there are usually "classified". Aka, they usually fill the niche of something like "White haired pretty boy" (Vayne) or "Cute Shotaro boy" (Hope). Ichika starts out at "Mysterious Transfer student", but he changes to "Ambigously Gay" because of Charles. __________________

2012-07-13, 23:02	Link #34026
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	I just remember, it was apparent that even I.S. has finite fuel. Though at far higher quantity than they store physically. So Ignition Boost not really required so much energy, but they use ALL the fuel stored physically and thus has to materialize new batch of fuel... Not to mention the physical strain on the compression chamber and nozzles limit their usage further. __________________

2012-07-13, 22:55	Link #34024
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	LiowXing, Spartan, Kiyo, the unnamed imbalanced(too heavily armed) IS. Particularly LiowXing and Kiyo sport very unusual equipment which requires a huge amount of energy. Spartan and the imbalanced IS sport mostly physical weaponry so they would need less. Kiyo has physical weaponry too but the fact of the matter is that the arrows use a materialization mechanism which should logically use up a lot of energy. Using an algorithm flaw or glitch seems odd now that I think about it... but the fact it has an equalizer lock is the main reason this glitch exists. LiowXing's problem is that all the energy is spent powering the shield condenser and extra energy can't be spared to make use of energy based thrusters at 100%, at least based on what I know without conclusive numbers. LiowXing is supposed to make use of Ignition Boost with a rapid-fire like capacity without requiring much from the overall system. Using propulsion gas seems plausible as a recurring source but the output seems too weak to even consider for the designed purpose...

2012-07-13, 23:17	Link #34027
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Making it a multi-burst ignition boost would require either a continuous delivery system or an instantaneous materialization mechanism then. Energy based thruster makes more sense If I want to incorporate such a function, but again, the restraint from the special functions compliment.

2012-07-13, 23:36	Link #34028
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Well, as of V6, even Canon doesn't have rugged enough hardware to accomplish that technique. Note the revolving booster owned by [Fang Quake], the intention is that one booster can use Ignition boost once, hence multiple IB. __________________

2012-07-14, 00:08	Link #34029
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	How do you suppose Setsura can achieve double IB? It doesn't look like it sports any hardware similar to Fang Quake.

2012-07-14, 00:12	Link #34030
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Going to update Synchronicity. Wish me luck __________________

2012-07-14, 00:22	Link #34032
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	My first assumption that ByakuShiki Setsura has two compression chamber instead of one, which work in sync. I don't know if it means twice the output at once, or doing it twice a succession. It's seems that anyone can do multiple IB contrary to Ichika's earlier statement in V1, normal ByakuShiki do it 3 times during first gospel battle. The Fang Quake Design seems to be used to achieve multiple boost without delay. __________________

2012-07-14, 00:36	Link #34033
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	My thoughts on IB, are not far off from your own. The initial thought of it was that during operation, a compression chamber runs and continuously pressurizes propulsion fuel separate from that of the main source. Once it reaches a certain point, it stops and is ready for use. IB is achieved when the gases from this compression chamber is released, generating a huge burst of speed from the sheer pressure and high concentration of fuel molecules stored within the gas. The idea of double IB seems to be similar to double clicking. So two IB in rapid succession, achieving something akin to instantaneous movement, but only limited to one maneuver correction while maintaining that speed boost. Considering the fang quake's weapon compliment is only a knife thus far, it might be using the IB as a means to get close to the enemy. So the IB itself becomes the lifeline and main weapon of the machine. I actually had not known it used revolving compression chambers until it was mentioned to me. I just can't understand how Setsura can achieve multiples without commenting on its structure. Simple guesswork may see it as adding another compression chamber to what it already has. What if an explosion is used to generate an effect similar to IB?

2012-07-14, 00:45	Link #34034
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	I dunno, the explosion has to be small and focused enough to fit inside the nozzle, otherwise it's a total waste of energy. As for Fang Quake, I chalked it up to it's either being totally new and incomplete, or totally bad unit losing to Gospel in a competition. It's default speed is far cry compared to Zephyr. __________________

2012-07-14, 00:52	Link #34035
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Question: Is killing someone terminally ill when they ask for it murder? __________________

2012-07-14, 00:54	Link #34036
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	Yeah. By Law that is, unless you are specialist that HAVE the right for doing Euthanasia. __________________

2012-07-14, 00:57	Link #34037
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	Then what about a variant of the pressure canons from ShenLong?

2012-07-14, 00:57	Link #34038
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Right, sorry for being off topic. I'm doing a paper on Euthanasia on minors and/or the terminally ill, and I'm not sure which side to take. __________________

2012-07-14, 01:04	Link #34039
ZeroXSEED I am no one Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Inside your head	@ Demi Well, maybe good for extremely short high acceleration burst. Remember the law of gas expansion. Actually, that sounds like a good material for Quick boost (though you still can't do it rapidly). @ Eras Depends, you can use local and international stance on it, then add your own moral interpretation. Ironically, I myself (a Nurse mind you) saw euthanasia as unnecessary, even though I consider abortion required if certain condition is met... __________________

2012-07-14, 01:09	Link #34040
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	There is no international stance on it:/ Everybody still argues whether it's morally right or wrong. __________________