Mahouka LN - Yotsuba Inheritance Arc (Volume 16) Discussion / Poll

[Clutchdog]

Originally Posted by TrueAlchemist

I also think, Masaki x Miyuki may actually happen before the end of Mahouka because Tatsuya will not cross the line even if Miyuki is crazy enough to cross the line. If Tatsuya is actually invited to a family member not only as a fiance of Miyuki but an actual member of Yotsuba, with enough merits and acknowledgement from fellow Yotsuba members I think, anything can happen in the future volumes.

Knowing Miyuki they will probably cross the line in the next volume at the latest. At any rate, no way is there any hope for Masaki, maybe if the author said 25 volumes you could say there's still a very slight chance, but there's no way that will happen in 4 volumes.
With the Kudou clan and Minoru, Saegusa falling out, Tatsuya's relationship with the military and status as a SC magician, Black Sage and Zhou's parting words, Maya and Hliðskjálf, Lina coming back, dealing with the Yotsuba sponsor and also dealing with Rozen there are way too many story threads as it is already and this one would require the most amount of time out of them all. I doubt Masaki will even be in a big role in the next volume, I think it might be more about the Saegusa and the Kudou and their plots against the Yotsuba. How Lina fits in, I don't know.

[amtro]

The pages were posted. For goodness sake, listen to what I am saying.
Maya claims that Tatsuya came from an unfertilized egg from Dahan. According to her Miyuki and Tatsuya are first cousins and to legitimize Miyuki's claim, for Miyuki to gain the name Yotsuba she has to marry Tatsuya Yotsuba.

[solhaz]

Originally Posted by amtro

The pages were posted. For goodness sake, listen to what I am saying.
Maya claims that Tatsuya came from an unfertilized egg from Dahan. According to her Miyuki and Tatsuya are first cousins and to legitimize Miyuki's claim, for Miyuki to gain the name Yotsuba she has to marry Tatsuya Yotsuba.

Really!! Now I'm happy if that's the truth, after all I always think it's nice if Tatsuya is Maya's son from her unfertilized egg. Now if those spoilers are true I wonder who is Tatsuya's father and Miyuki's mother

[Narvi]

Originally Posted by Blarrow

Someone has uploaded Yotsuba family tree right? Can someone check whether Tatsuya is still Miya's son there or Maya's?

Tatsuya's name is under Miya's, it seems.

[amtro]

Putting Tatsuya's name under Maya would be too much of a spoiler. Remember, color pages always come first in an LN.

[Mentar]

Originally Posted by Clutchdog

Knowing Miyuki they will probably cross the line in the next volume at the latest. At any rate, no way is there any hope for Masaki, maybe if the author said 25 volumes you could say there's still a very slight chance, but there's no way that will happen in 4 volumes.

I'm not so sure about that. This kind of revelation would essentially "cut off" Tatsuya/Miyuki from all other relationships they started to build, and this kind of revelation in the 5th to last volume? If anything, the _early_ twist towards fiancee makes this ending _less_ likely, in fact. In the 19th, sure. The 16th? We haven't reached the endgame yet.

[Blarrow]

Originally Posted by amtro

The pages were posted. For goodness sake, listen to what I am saying.
Maya claims that Tatsuya came from an unfertilized egg from Dahan. According to her Miyuki and Tatsuya are first cousins and to legitimize Miyuki's claim, for Miyuki to gain the name Yotsuba she has to marry Tatsuya Yotsuba.

Just to clarify. In order to become a heir Myiuki must marry Tatsuya Yotsuba, or in order to become Miyuki Yotsuba she must marry Tatsuya Yotsuba who is a heir?

[Lucarion]

Originally Posted by millie10468

Lucarion's going to be a very happy camper.

You bet I am.

Parvati is finally with her Shiva.

[Clutchdog]

Originally Posted by Mentar

I'm not so sure about that. This kind of revelation would essentially "cut off" Tatsuya/Miyuki from all other relationships they started to build, and this kind of revelation in the 5th to last volume? If anything, the _early_ twist towards fiancee makes this ending _less_ likely, in fact. In the 19th, sure. The 16th? We haven't reached the endgame yet.

It's necessary for the story and for Tatsuya's identity to come to light, this was already foreshadowed to happen in vol 8. The heir is selected at the beginning of their third years.
Regardless, I won't try to convince you, I've always though shipping talk in Mahouka was for meant for eternal optimists.

[amtro]

Miyuki has no claim to the seat of head, in order to become Miyuki Yotsuba she has to marry Tatsuya Yotsuba. Who became the heir is irrelevant, because in the end it will be Tatsuya who runs things.

[greenn]

So who should other candidates marry to in order to become Yotsuba? This "legitimate" thing is at least questionable.

[amtro]

They should marry either Tatsuya, or Maya.

[Mentar]

Originally Posted by greenn

So who should other candidates marry to in order to become Yotsuba? This "legitimate" thing is at least questionable.

Very questionable, in fact. Miyuki has been designated Heir for a while, and if Tatsuya can simply "unmask" as Yotsuba, why couldn't she?

Either this is shipperlogic or one of the inconsistencies I was worried about caused by the 180.

[Chirst]

Got more info from Mattdamon @ jcafe24

Got more information about tatsuya's new magic
credited by wingfreedom

Spoiler for detail:

The new magic called Brionac Lance or Material Brionac
The effect of this magic is still similar to decomposition but the speed of the magic is 10000 km/1 second. Fast even Yotsuba members can't see what is going on here.

[Lucarion]

Originally Posted by tigerdave

Well, this fits with the whole Miyuki-Parvati similarity. Parvati is the reincarnation of Sati, Shiva's wife before her. I think we all know the similarities between Shiva and Tatsuya. Wow, these are some crazy spoilers. These last four volumes are going to be amazing.

Indeed.

Now, I'm praying Miyuki eventually gives birth to a Kartikeya and Ganesh. Then the Divine Family will be complete.

That is, of course, assuming all these spoilers here are really as they are.

[expertsource]

tatsuya was just a mere guardian, not even a member. So when did he become yotsuba even more than a member?

[greenn]

And marrying Maya mean to forget the reason behind marriage.

[Blarrow]

Originally Posted by Mentar

Very questionable, in fact. Miyuki has been designated Heir for a while, and if Tatsuya can simply "unmask" as Yotsuba, why couldn't she?

Either this is shipperlogic or one of the inconsistencies I was worried about caused by the 180.

On the other hand, can you really choose a heir if there is a direct son of present Head of The Clan (even thought previously unrecognized but connected by blood and proven to be worthy of status)

[amtro]

The marrying Maya part wasn't mentioned, it is speculation because the heir needs to have the family name. There are several ways to interpret how this "legitimacy" thing works.
On one hand no one but Tatsuya was going to be the leader from the start, Miyuki was chosen as his wife and things just naturally progressed from there.

You have to keep in mind the reason why Tatsuya was a guardian, in the end even that was a lie only a select few knew about. The actual reason why Tatsuya was hated by Miya and Mitsugu is because he is Maya's instrument of world destruction, "the greatest sin of the Yotsuba".

[Jiminy]

I don't really understand why everyone is so hyped because of those "spoilers". I think (if this is all true) the author picked the most boring route he could and added a lot of inconsistencies. In the end it's nothing fans didn't already talk about. We do not get a real solution for any of the major problems Tatsuya has to face - the only thing we get is another layer of "half-truth", lies and secrets to hide the real problems. (Ok maybe I read Game of Thrones/Song of Ice and Fire a bit too much lately - so I'm a little biased to expect certain events - but still I think he could have done better) At least there is something I really enjoyed to see - the picture of Lina.