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2006-08-16, 04:40 | Link #142 | |
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since in East blue most of the people heard about Df as rumors or legend and since it is hard to find Df in the other seas (since the didn't we didn'r see mush about the other seas, i am not sure, but from the reaction of orhara peoples toward rubin u can assume it also rare to find any DF) also all of west, east, north, south blues the people reaction toward DF user is to consider them freak or be afried while in grandline it is normaly to see DF people for the people who lie there. also what's strange is that it doesn't matter where u get the DF in the end and at some point of ur life u will head toward the grandline wither if u are pirate, marines, hunter or anything else ... anyway it is a conclusion ... and actually i start reading the manga from the first chapter ... also by the way shanks said that luffy ate Gumu gumu fruit after luffy scratch he didn't know anything about the fruit either but since he was angry probably he wasn't supprised and it seemed like he knew the DF ability |
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2006-08-16, 12:37 | Link #143 |
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When he said "the secret to this is hidden in the grand line", he meant the secret of how they work and where they come from.
DFs are rare outside of the grand line, but they are common enough that a person recognizes someone with an ability immediately. |
2006-08-17, 03:01 | Link #144 | ||
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Personally though, how Robin and many others found their devil fruit, is something i don't think Oda is ever really gonna go into much detail... if it were important he would have included when he was telling the characters back story... It robin's flashback for instance, he would have snuck in the info when Robin first showed Saul her power, by having her quickly mentioned where she found the fruit... yes he'll tells use where devil fruit comes from, just never really go into detail about how many DF users found their fruit, it's just not that important Quote:
Such slight lack of foresight is not too surprising at the begining of a story... another example of possible lack of foresight was when Zoro fought Hatchi... When Zoro finished him off he cut apart hatchi's swords, but this took place long before Zoro learned how to cut steal... Oda may have decided latter on that cutting steal would become a big part of Zoro's development... |
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2006-08-27, 19:39 | Link #145 |
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I dont know why but i just have the feeling that the devil fruits have some thing to do with the the country that dissapeard 800 years ago before the world government arose.....or even the pone-glyphs......maybe the devil fruits could have originated from this country?
My other theory is that the devil fruits jsut grown on normal fruit trees. It is said that the fruits are to have the power of the devil himself so maybe a devil fruit could have just been a normal fruit on a normal tree which was "tainted" by the devil. This could explain why the fruits appearance is completely random.........n the reason that there are more devil fruits in the grand line may be because of some great evil there????? OR it would be unbelievably awsome if ther was a devil fruit forest Last edited by Dr.Kureha; 2006-08-27 at 19:57. |
2006-09-09, 17:58 | Link #147 |
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possible difference between sea water and seastone
when a DF user fall in sea he become hammer and he can't swim but it doesn't mean u can use ur ability in water ...
when Arlong throw luffy in the sea ... nami's sister were able to scratch luffy head out of water .. so luffy didn't lose his power he simple couldn't do that at his own ... while touching seastone make u lose power .. and u can't use ur ability u suddenly became normal very very tired normal human ... ... it maybe seems stupied but this difference can make event .. example Aoi koji has the ability to get out of the sea if he fall on it !!!!! and there maybe exist other type of DF with the ability that can be used to get out of water .. like kilo kilo fruit ... |
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2006-09-09, 18:26 | Link #149 | ||
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let's forget luffy here for a moment ... when smoker and the marines catched buggy in that town before entering the grandline .. he tried using his power but it was useless. well i am not sure but when luffy tried saving zoro and usopp from the jail between ep 196-198 ... the jail fall on him usopp tried pulling him ourt .. he didn't scratch (even thought it was filler) .. also in the same arc when he was catched in the net. Quote:
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2006-09-09, 19:37 | Link #151 | |
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2006-09-09, 20:33 | Link #152 | ||
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sea water and sea stone do the same job ... and that is to Restricted the ability of DF users .. but it does not mean that they are the same. Quote:
and here is another intresting point ... when luffy touched the sea stone in croc jail or the tip of smoker stick he losed his power and he was too tired to even moved like he was drawing in the sea ... but robin walked in enis lobby without getting tired !!!? i am pretty sure that they said the cuffs were made of sea stones ... and another thing when luffy was fighting croc he was sucked in water ... doesn't this consider a bath ?? |
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2006-09-09, 20:56 | Link #153 |
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umm... i have question .. in skypie arc ... do u think the cloud where marry stopped when thier reach the sky and the beach sea near the angel isalnd is made of the same materials ?? if i remember correctly there anre two types of clouds
1- the one u sail on it .... 2- the milky way clouds .. right ? |
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2006-09-10, 06:17 | Link #155 | ||
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yeah.. there are only two kind of cloud .. the one u sail on it and the hard one which is used to build the angel island, i don't think they mentioned any other type of cloud ...
so here is another point: when they reached angel beach luffy and chopper thought that they can swim on it. because it is not a blue sea .. but ended up drawining like as they were in ocean. zoro was the one to snatch them out. but when they first arrived usopps tried to swim in the sea and when he jumped he was falling because there is no bottom for the white ocean. luffy scratch his hand to catch usopps and robin used her eyes flower on luffy hand to locate usopps. so while they were out of the water both of them were able to use his/her ability even though that part was in water. unless it wasn't the same kind of cloud .. but i am sure it was ... the only different that there was hard cloud under the angel beach covered by the other cloud. Quote:
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2006-09-24, 01:57 | Link #156 |
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DF ponderings...
Just some absent-minded questions while I'm bored with nothing else to do...
- Are there any repeat Devil's Fruit abilities? It seems like we've never seen two characters with the same ability, and likely never will. Hm. You'd think they'd run out of powers eventually... - So inanimate objects can somehow absorb DFs. So far we've only seen weapons get Zoan types, but could non-weapon objects do this, too? Could they get non-Zoan types? Zoan types are okay, because then the object gains intelligence and can be ordered what to do, but if they got the other types, the object couldn't really do anything about it, now could it? Also since inanimate objects don't possess the ability to swim in the first place... XD - ...How DO inanimate objects eat DFs? - Could a ship absorb a DF? Wouldn't it be sort of useless if it just sank, then? XD - Could an inanimate object made out of seastone absord a DF? XD - So if a person eats two DFs they die... But what about an inanimate object, which isn't alive in the first place? - Can you share a DF? Like split it in half or more and two or more people eat each piece? - Can a DF be prepared in a meal by a chef? Would it still affect you? Could it be made to actually TASTE good? What about squeezing the juice out and making a fine DF punch? XD - This might have been adressed somewhere, but where to DF come from? Is there a certain kind of tree? Where is it? If not one specific place, then how are they found in the first place? Where do they appear, and why? How are they generally found? - Could a cyborg like Franky eat a Devil's Fruit? If it was Logia, could he only transform his non-cyborg half? XD - Is there a sort of pattern to the way a DF looks and the kind of power it gives? Heh, sorry, like I said, I'm bored. This is entirely just for fun and not to be taken seriously. XD |
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2006-09-24, 07:27 | Link #158 | |
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2006-09-24, 17:48 | Link #159 | ||
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also i don't think Franky really need DF powers.. each member have special ability and strengh which make them unique and they developed it as sthe story goes on. now imagine if zoro eat DF or Sanji or even usuops .. do u think thier character would still be intrested !!? i don't think so .. Zoro is trying to be the strongest swords man in the world he need to be strong in swords and polish his skills to do that .. so he doesn't actually beleive in strengh coming from DF. Sanji want to find all blue .. yeah he need to be strong to do that .. but cook don't use his hand in fights or use foods to fight (forget about those special cases where he used them) so do u think eating DF to get strengh in his mind ... i think he just want to get strong the way his master got it. Usuops, nami stuggle to use thier mind in fighting instead of strengh ... i think thier character is good the way it is .. if they eat DF i think i won't like them any more. now for franky if he really joined luffy .. then don't think usuops and chopper can help him modifying himself ... usuops can do the parts franky couldn't do them. also i think impact deal and other deals from skypie where meant to be used for franky. |
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