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2013-04-15, 12:07 | Link #1082 | ||
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It is really a currency abtriadge (sic-can't recall the right spelling atm). Right now, SK through this system can hire 4 NK workers for one Chinese worker. If NK become one giant Kaesong, the currency advantage fades. Unless NK/SK will remain dual currencies, then that will encourage a flood of NKers heading for SK to seek better jobs. Which will depress the labor market and create...well, not racism, but regionism? What a great plan! Quote:
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2013-04-15, 12:08 | Link #1083 | |
Franco's Phalanx is next!
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2013-04-15, 12:52 | Link #1087 |
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^ Agree. True or magnetic north?
In other news: Happy Birthday Kim-Il Sung? http://www.news.com.au/world-news/is...-1226620547646
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2013-04-15, 14:11 | Link #1090 | |||
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ROK appointed governors running the North is a short term solution, but it's hardly a long term one. While temporary fiat rule over a selected part of territory in extraordinary situations is pragmatic, it can be dangerous long term. Citizens living in the post DPRK region would nominally be Korean citizens, but they likely wouldn't be able to vote or have access to government subsidized healthcare. For all practical purposes, they'd be second class citizens. And it'd be dangerous for any nominally Korean nation to have a third of its population be second class citizens. Whether its reunification or colonization, trying to manage a post North Korean state is going to be very difficult.
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2013-04-15, 14:46 | Link #1091 | ||
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1. Warming of relationships between the two countries. 2. Finding an alternative to PRC labor. 3. Testing the system which is planned to be used if DPRK falls. Quote:
1. DPRK citizens already know just how far they're behind. It's not like they're blind to things. 2. DPRK citizens already know that they will be second/third class citizens if they try to immediately integrate into ROK society. They know they would not be able to keep up with the harsh competition that ROK has on a daily basis, and that it's better they build things up in the north. 3. ROKA already has the authorization to stop any floods of refugees with force. |
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2013-04-15, 15:22 | Link #1092 | ||
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And finally, I believe SK actually subsidize Kaesong companies to the tune of 155 million/year, and for several years they lost money. Quote:
So essentially, what SK want is keep NK as a impoverished state that will become a cheap labor force for the south. A gulag for a entire nation. So if SK can shoot refugee waves, that mean China could do it too right? In that case, we got a easy solution right there! China really should just support NK/SK absorption, and use Nkers who try to flee as machine gun targets. Reality, please. |
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2013-04-15, 15:32 | Link #1093 |
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Sumeragi is under the impression that if SK would draw a line in the sand the wave and waves of NK refugee would not cross that line.
Failing that SK can machine gun and bomb any refugee trying to cross the border without repercussions form the international community.
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2013-04-15, 15:41 | Link #1094 |
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The idea of North Korean refugees= zombies on the attack is stupid
Unless the DPRK collapses with widespread violence, I don't see "massive hordes" of North Koreans trying to flee across the border, therefore the ROKA would not have anyone to gun down. If the DPRK collapses with extreme violence, most likely there would have already been an invasion and occupation by the south to address the trainwreck and any case of unwanted migration could be handled on a small scale. North Koreans would try to escape to China or the south in either case, but it's not like you're going to see large groups of people get together in big zombie-style packs to cross the borders. If the regime but not the country collapses, there will be a surviving administrative infrastructure for the south to use for the purpose of "one country, two systems"-style reunification. North Koreans would still try to emigrate, and some would succeed, but again they would have no reason to become zombies and charge the borders. Especially since South Korea and other countries would most likely be providing food aid and whatnot to keep the northern population satisfied for the time being. |
2013-04-15, 15:42 | Link #1095 | |
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^ Not even Israel can mow down a refugee wave for pure economic reasons. I am wondering what Sumeragi got on his/her University thesis.... |
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2013-04-15, 15:46 | Link #1096 |
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How are the North Koreans going to assemble into a "refugee wave"? This isn't Berlin where a mob can easily form and walk a few blocks to get into the next country. Most Koreans don't own any form of transportation besides their feet, and most of them live in cities far from the borders. Unless there's a protracted war you're not going to see entire cities pack up and leave.
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2013-04-15, 15:55 | Link #1097 | |
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Also, if refugee waves wouldn't be a problem, then why is both SK, China, US all sleep fitfully on the idea of a Nk implosion? Are you telling me the government of South Korea AND China are a band of chicken little? |
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2013-04-15, 16:03 | Link #1098 | |
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The entire NK pop doesn't need to leave to create a human wave. Just 5-10% will be more then enough to create problems for SK.
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2013-04-15, 16:22 | Link #1100 | ||
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And if NK collapses, I doubt it will be the Berlin wall scenario, it will likely to be violent. Quote:
1) Are those aids even ready? As I recall, SK tried to setup a tax fund to prepare for a collapse, and it was killed in parliament. 2) Allow me to present: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%...archy_of_needs Even if food is ready, people would want other things. As Sumeragi said, NK people know how backwards they are to SK, so they once food/water is taken care of, they would go to SK looking for...Korean dramas to watch if nothing else. They would want to be wealthy and prosper, and the easiest way is cross over the border. |
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