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Random Wanderer · 2016-07-11, 15:26

So, I'm a bit confused about these enemies of theirs. The things are supposed to be so dangerous they wiped out civilization once, right? Yet in the battle in this episode they didn't attack once. They just flew or sailed forward in straight lines, completely ignoring people they were passing (including ones that were moving pretty damned slow and were obviously unshielded, ie: obvious targets), didn't fire a single weapon, and pretty much acted like nothing more than automated target dummies. I'm going to label the one injured person we saw as a friendly-fire injury, because those "enemies" never gave any sign of doing anything except just heading straight forward and ignoring everything else.

Wandering Soul · 2016-07-11, 16:49

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

So, I'm a bit confused about these enemies of theirs. The things are supposed to be so dangerous they wiped out civilization once, right? Yet in the battle in this episode they didn't attack once. They just flew or sailed forward in straight lines, completely ignoring people they were passing (including ones that were moving pretty damned slow and were obviously unshielded, ie: obvious targets), didn't fire a single weapon, and pretty much acted like nothing more than automated target dummies. I'm going to label the one injured person we saw as a friendly-fire injury, because those "enemies" never gave any sign of doing anything except just heading straight forward and ignoring everything else.

My guess is that there is more than one type of enemy and we were simply shown the weakest type.

bakato · 2016-07-11, 16:50

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

So, I'm a bit confused about these enemies of theirs. The things are supposed to be so dangerous they wiped out civilization once, right? Yet in the battle in this episode they didn't attack once. They just flew or sailed forward in straight lines, completely ignoring people they were passing (including ones that were moving pretty damned slow and were obviously unshielded, ie: obvious targets), didn't fire a single weapon, and pretty much acted like nothing more than automated target dummies. I'm going to label the one injured person we saw as a friendly-fire injury, because those "enemies" never gave any sign of doing anything except just heading straight forward and ignoring everything else.

If you watched closely you can see that they did fire beams back in a few scenes.

Random Wanderer · 2016-07-11, 17:12

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Originally Posted by bakato

If you watched closely you can see that they did fire beams back in a few scenes.

I saw some do it in whatshisname's introduction battle, but in the big fight it just looked like they specialized in getting shot.

Hmmm... I suppose something was shooting at pistol-girl when she was standing on ice in the water, although considering how easily they could have gotten her when she was slowly floating backwards through the air not paying attention a few minutes earlier while they just flew by and ignored her I'm not giving them points for that.

Blueknight78 · 2016-07-11, 19:31

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

I saw some do it in whatshisname's introduction battle, but in the big fight it just looked like they specialized in getting shot.

Hmmm... I suppose something was shooting at pistol-girl when she was standing on ice in the water, although considering how easily they could have gotten her when she was slowly floating backwards through the air not paying attention a few minutes earlier while they just flew by and ignored her I'm not giving them points for that.

well to be fair the monsters which appear later don't looked like the same ones which wiped the world years ago, then probably for now only small fries are comming and only later which the "big bad" guys will come to again to wipe the world and that ones gonna be the ones to give the young a huge run for the money.

FateAnomaly · 2016-07-11, 21:48

That's the nice thing about civilization destroying aliens. They will destroy 99% of the population and then trained up the other 1% with their weak forces until they became strong enough. It is as if they are trying to uplift them.

Marcus H. · 2016-07-11, 22:22

That's implying that the aliens are as armed to the teeth as Murica, which isn't entirely true. Just like ants who only have a certain group with defensive capabilities, there will be aliens that are as powerful as a pigeon or a farmer with a rusty scythe.

Random Wanderer · 2016-07-11, 22:33

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

That's implying that the aliens are as armed to the teeth as Murica, which isn't entirely true. Just like ants who only have a certain group with defensive capabilities, there will be aliens that are as powerful as a pigeon or a farmer with a rusty scythe.

But why would those be (presumably) attacking the remnants of humanity?

FateAnomaly · 2016-07-11, 22:35

Eh the aliens are attacking. Are they are that desparate that they have to send in their pigeons and peasants.

Benigmatica · 2016-07-11, 22:59

Well, the aliens should have destroyed Earth a few years ago. But then again, they didn't completely obliterate the entire planet and that's why a few people with World powers emerged to retaliate against the invaders.

Marcus H. · 2016-07-11, 23:01

Why? They are scouts and fodder. They probably exist to gauge the strength of the human resistance and give out data about the enemy. Some mooks can also exist as resource gatherers like those in Aquarion.

Random Wanderer · 2016-07-12, 02:32

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

Why? They are scouts and fodder. They probably exist to gauge the strength of the human resistance and give out data about the enemy. Some mooks can also exist as resource gatherers like those in Aquarion.

Maybe.

In other news, it's interesting that Kanegawa is the only school that has some obviously important characters other than the leaders (ie: people with unique character designs).

Triple_R · 2016-07-12, 07:14

To be fair to Random Wanderer, the enemies did seem like little more than shooting targets in all the "present day" scenes. Now, it's only Episode 1, so it's not a big deal to me yet. But I hope the enemies get more dangerous/difficult in future episodes.

Haak · 2016-07-12, 16:26

That wasn't half bad actually. I mean it’s a fairly generic set up for sure, but the characters were actually interesting in the way they interacted with each other. And it was kinda funny seeing these superpowered highschoolers act just like the stupid competitive chuunibyou highschoolers that you'd expect them to. It's also nice to see an MC that starts off with a balance of flaws and good points. I think the story makes it clear that the MC has the complete wrong attitude and work ethic but it's balanced by the fact that he's not a particularly bad person to other people and that he's kind and caring towards his sister(?) who herself is likeable for being the mature teamplayer.

chaos_animagic · 2016-07-12, 17:39

With the opening of giant alien structure doing the [Independence Day] movie lazer blast and the ending of the bird going through a sort of portal in the sky...

Why... does this feel like Human already lost and the Aliens already control the entire Planet and is projecting fake reality for entertainment?...

IE: The Matrix.

felix · 2016-07-12, 18:25

Yeah I was getting the same vibe. That somehow the "world order" is fake.

Random Wanderer · 2016-07-12, 20:25

Anyone see Scrapped Princess years ago? Or more recently Yuuki Yuuna wa Yuusha de Aru? Humanity exists inside a barrier, Bad Things™ have wrecked the world outside. That's my guess.

Arya · 2016-07-13, 02:45

Ok, the first episode wasn't that bad. And it can go everywhere. But the character interactions were a bit dull, I mean I don't see any interesting dynamic so far, nothing that won't become repetitive after the second time you see it. As the MC's complains, they got old already.
The feeling is like it's missing a character that can go against the MC. I'm expecting her to be introduced the next episode.

So the only interesting thing so far is, I agree, that it's look like a fake world, matrix like. But set up by humans.
If they have been put into forced sleep maybe this is just the training program until they wont wake up and start fighting the real enemy.
And interesting turn could be that the MC in the real world won't be powerful, but considering the MC it could easily degrade fast pulling out another Eren, so really, no thanks!!

Kazu-kun · 2016-07-13, 02:58

What if the enemy put them in this "matrix"? Maybe this is some sort of experiment.

Diluc · 2016-07-14, 07:28

I got feeling this anime going to be another trainswreck anime, multi-writers never being good news.
the contents is confusing and the characters are bland but their hostile interaction prevented from being dull.
imho Qualidea code might better in game form than anime form.

2016-07-11, 15:26	Link #61
Random Wanderer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	So, I'm a bit confused about these enemies of theirs. The things are supposed to be so dangerous they wiped out civilization once, right? Yet in the battle in this episode they didn't attack once. They just flew or sailed forward in straight lines, completely ignoring people they were passing (including ones that were moving pretty damned slow and were obviously unshielded, ie: obvious targets), didn't fire a single weapon, and pretty much acted like nothing more than automated target dummies. I'm going to label the one injured person we saw as a friendly-fire injury, because those "enemies" never gave any sign of doing anything except just heading straight forward and ignoring everything else. __________________

2016-07-11, 22:22	Link #67
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	That's implying that the aliens are as armed to the teeth as Murica, which isn't entirely true. Just like ants who only have a certain group with defensive capabilities, there will be aliens that are as powerful as a pigeon or a farmer with a rusty scythe. __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2016-07-11, 23:01	Link #71
Marcus H. Princess or Plunderer? Join Date: May 2009 Location: the Philippines	Why? They are scouts and fodder. They probably exist to gauge the strength of the human resistance and give out data about the enemy. Some mooks can also exist as resource gatherers like those in Aquarion. __________________ Continuing: White Sand Aquatope (6/24) and Vanitas S2 (0/12), The Vampire Dies in No Time S2 and Bofuri S2 (3/12). 2021: Restaurant to Another World S2 (3/12), takt Op. Destiny (1/12) and Taisho Maiden Fairy Tale (1/12). 2022: Yuusha Yamemasu (1/12), Kaguya-sama S3, Mob Psycho 100 III (Oct06), Bleach: 1000 Year Blood War (2/13) and Chainsaw Man (6/12). Spring 2023: Yamada-kun to Lv999 no Koi wo Suru, Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear Punch! (4/12), Skip to Loafer, Tonikaku Kawaii S2 (1/12), Otonari ni Ginga (5/12) and Kimi wa Houkago Insomnia (3/13). Contact me on Wikia and MyAnimeList. Anime List Status ~ Watching: 33. Completed: 468. Plan to watch: 39.

2016-07-12, 07:14	Link #73
Triple_R Senior Member Author Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Age: 42	To be fair to Random Wanderer, the enemies did seem like little more than shooting targets in all the "present day" scenes. Now, it's only Episode 1, so it's not a big deal to me yet. But I hope the enemies get more dangerous/difficult in future episodes. __________________

2016-07-12, 16:26	Link #74
Haak Me, An Intellectual Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: UK Age: 33	That wasn't half bad actually. I mean it’s a fairly generic set up for sure, but the characters were actually interesting in the way they interacted with each other. And it was kinda funny seeing these superpowered highschoolers act just like the stupid competitive chuunibyou highschoolers that you'd expect them to. It's also nice to see an MC that starts off with a balance of flaws and good points. I think the story makes it clear that the MC has the complete wrong attitude and work ethic but it's balanced by the fact that he's not a particularly bad person to other people and that he's kind and caring towards his sister(?) who herself is likeable for being the mature teamplayer. __________________ MAL \| AnimeSuki Choice Awards 2020 Winners

2016-07-11, 21:48	Link #66
FateAnomaly Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007	That's the nice thing about civilization destroying aliens. They will destroy 99% of the population and then trained up the other 1% with their weak forces until they became strong enough. It is as if they are trying to uplift them.

2016-07-11, 22:35	Link #69
FateAnomaly Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007	Eh the aliens are attacking. Are they are that desparate that they have to send in their pigeons and peasants.

2016-07-11, 22:59	Link #70
Benigmatica Deadpan Rambler Join Date: Nov 2012	Well, the aliens should have destroyed Earth a few years ago. But then again, they didn't completely obliterate the entire planet and that's why a few people with World powers emerged to retaliate against the invaders.

2016-07-12, 17:39	Link #75
chaos_animagic Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	With the opening of giant alien structure doing the [Independence Day] movie lazer blast and the ending of the bird going through a sort of portal in the sky... Why... does this feel like Human already lost and the Aliens already control the entire Planet and is projecting fake reality for entertainment?... IE: The Matrix.

2016-07-12, 18:25	Link #76
felix sleepyhead Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: event horizon	Yeah I was getting the same vibe. That somehow the "world order" is fake. __________________

2016-07-12, 20:25	Link #77
Random Wanderer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Anyone see Scrapped Princess years ago? Or more recently Yuuki Yuuna wa Yuusha de Aru? Humanity exists inside a barrier, Bad Things™ have wrecked the world outside. That's my guess. __________________

2016-07-13, 02:45	Link #78
Arya Senior Member Join Date: May 2004	Ok, the first episode wasn't that bad. And it can go everywhere. But the character interactions were a bit dull, I mean I don't see any interesting dynamic so far, nothing that won't become repetitive after the second time you see it. As the MC's complains, they got old already. The feeling is like it's missing a character that can go against the MC. I'm expecting her to be introduced the next episode. So the only interesting thing so far is, I agree, that it's look like a fake world, matrix like. But set up by humans. If they have been put into forced sleep maybe this is just the training program until they wont wake up and start fighting the real enemy. And interesting turn could be that the MC in the real world won't be powerful, but considering the MC it could easily degrade fast pulling out another Eren, so really, no thanks!! __________________ *The meaning of things lies not in the things themselves, but in our attitude towards them.*

2016-07-13, 02:58	Link #79
Kazu-kun Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006	What if the enemy put them in this "matrix"? Maybe this is some sort of experiment. __________________

2016-07-14, 07:28	Link #80
Diluc Darkhero of Monstadt Join Date: May 2015 Location: rich mansion with maids	I got feeling this anime going to be another trainswreck anime, multi-writers never being good news. the contents is confusing and the characters are bland but their hostile interaction prevented from being dull. imho Qualidea code might better in game form than anime form.