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Old 2016-07-24, 04:18   Link #161
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Putting aside joke part of Ichiya tsundere/chuuni personality, I can't say I don't understand where he is coming from with his "I am only one needed". He and Canaria was left alone with people that was supposed support and protect them gone and no one can say it can't happen again.

After all you can't cooperate with people that aren't there...
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Old 2016-07-24, 06:37   Link #162
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wow... tsundere male lead. Its rare to see one. Last time I see one was Kinji and he is also annoying. This MC is also annoying but when his tsundere and chu2 side was revealed to the audience. It become more bearable. I understand that subordinate unknown student. I also want the camera to work during that chat.

Tsundere MC lead is strong but not strong enough to take down that huge unknown. He can probably wipe up the small fries like what he did before the huge one appears. He has strength to boast but not strong enough, like hime, to stand alone. he still needs back up and poor Cana-chan. What happen to her? is overused of the world side effects?

as for the inside. That is probably recycle area. The useless are send there to feed the living.
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Old 2016-07-24, 10:11   Link #163
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You know, whenever a show, or a movie, or a book, or whatever talks about sending someone to some other place that is only spoken of in non-specifics, and covered in ominous undertones of "well, it's too bad they have to go there," and "no one from there has ever come back again, but we're told they're all happy and it's a good place, so don't worry about it," and "make sure you do a good enough job or you'll get sent there," it makes me highly suspicious about exactly what there really is. In this case it's this "inside" they were talking about.
I thought so at first, but then they mentioned the guy was going back to his parents (with whom he'd communicated), so "inside" looks like it's just out of the front line and back to maybe civilian life, whatever that means.
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Old 2016-07-24, 10:18   Link #164
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Is it just me or does the resolution of this situation seem predictable with Canaria recovering, Ichiya seeing what she scribbled in his diary which is probably something about not being alone/growing stronger and protecting each other together, and the other heads trolling the heck out of him by playing back a recording of his SoS at the end there in front of Canaria?
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Old 2016-07-24, 12:15   Link #165
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I thought so at first, but then they mentioned the guy was going back to his parents (with whom he'd communicated), so "inside" looks like it's just out of the front line and back to maybe civilian life, whatever that means.
Could be possible, but I wouldn't be surprised if the students don't really know what's "inside". Maybe the parent-thing is all an elaborate lie to keep them calm?
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Old 2016-07-24, 15:18   Link #166
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From all that talk I can only speculate that the inside is maybe the power source of the World power. The best are out here protecting while the rest provide their power like generators.
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Old 2016-07-24, 15:21   Link #167
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Perhaps, due to Canaria's injury, she'll be judged no longer useful for the front lines, and be scheduled to be sent inside, and Icchan will flip out and end up blowing the lid off whatever's there.
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Old 2016-07-24, 15:24   Link #168
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Going home to parents look pretty genuine here. There simply isn't enough effort in it to be ruse. Usually you would get all that "better place" propaganda. Here we just get guy who is going home because he was fired from his job.

And considering how many adulta are everywhere it would be weird if parents of many kids survived war.
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Old 2016-07-24, 16:06   Link #169
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It really sounded like he was just going home, rather than to a new place.
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Old 2016-07-24, 16:08   Link #170
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*shrugs* We'll see. The talk among the commanders at the beginning got my suspicions up.
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Old 2016-07-24, 18:58   Link #171
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It really sounded like he was just going home, rather than to a new place.
I don't think home can exist in a place like this. But hey, it could be anything at this rate. The sentiments are only because of the cryptic talk between the adults.

Seriously, the setting gives off SciAdv vibes. A bunch of kids living an exciting life, then stumbling upon a secret that changes their lives forever.
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Old 2016-07-24, 20:55   Link #172
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What do you mean by "place like that"? Thanks to three city forces unknowns were pushed away and zone of safety and peace were established. Even kids who pretty much live on frontier can take it quite easy.

As for secret, it would be pretty hard keep it considering, there is no information control. Kids can go pretty much anywhere and speak with anyone. And considered most adult population was shown genuinely affectionate with kids, such conspiracy would have to involve keep literally everyone in dark.
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Old 2016-07-24, 21:05   Link #173
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there is no information control.
That we know of.

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Kids can go pretty much anywhere
That we know of.

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and speak with anyone
You think.

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there is no way something malevolent would stay secret for long.
You pretty much just described something like half the fictional societies in which exactly this sort of secret exists. It doesn't have to be a dystopia to pull this off. In fact it's more dramatically effective when society seems to be normal and then something like this is discovered underneath it.
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Old 2016-07-24, 21:22   Link #174
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Yes, because completely lack of any effort control kids is clearly proof it's happening

Adults were laying their life's protect sleeping children. Now children fight protect small world for both adult and kids to live in. We already saw both sides being honest about that.

If you think that boy was brainwashed to think he has parents, why Tokyo or Chiba duo aren't?

PS: No dystopia is build on common people caring. If you want control people you have to NOT let such thing happen.
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Old 2016-07-24, 21:30   Link #175
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All this could be avoided if he visited the injured guy after finishing his duties. Its not like he is going back immediately.

Also i thought that singer girl song can heal wounds like in episode 1? Or does it only work for immediate wounds?
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Old 2016-07-24, 22:06   Link #176
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All this could be avoided if he visited the injured guy after finishing his duties. Its not like he is going back immediately.

Also i thought that singer girl song can heal wounds like in episode 1? Or does it only work for immediate wounds?
probably her "song can only heal" minor injuries, like the ones which can be threated in the battlefield any injurie which make the need leave the battlefield or when leave put him out of battle can't be healed.
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Old 2016-07-24, 22:24   Link #177
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Yes, because completely lack of any effort control kids is clearly proof it's happening
Um, the points and ranking system is a fairly obvious form of social control that the adults have over the children. It is also something that is counterproductive for them to be using if this society is as open and honest as you want it to be.

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Adults were laying their life's protect sleeping children. Now children fight protect small world for both adult and kids to live in. We already saw both sides being honest about that.
So? The whole point of something like this is that not everyone knows about it. We've seen that the adults who are in charge, ie: the military leaders, are keeping secrets from the kids. We just don't know what those secrets are.

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If you think that boy was brainwashed to think he has parents, why Tokyo or Chiba duo aren't?
Who says he doesn't have parents? I'm just saying he may be being tricked into thinking he's going to go be with them when that may not be the case.

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PS: No dystopia is build on common people caring. If you want control people you have to NOT let such thing happen.
A dystopia is not a required situation to have this scenario we're talking about. There doesn't have to be a corrupt dictator, an evil monarch, some sort of massive breakdown of social order. There don't have to be cyber-cops patrolling the streets arresting people for sneezing at the wrong time. As I said before, this sort of thing is dramatically most effective in a society that does not appear to have anything wrong with it.

As for controlling people... have you failed to notice the social situation in these last three episodes? The military adults are in control. Everyone does what they say. No one questions it. They haven't needed a dystopian society to get there: they're already in charge and everyone obeys them absolutely. They say "go there and kill things" people go there and kill things. They say "go here and do something personally humiliating" people go there and do it. They say "this guy's useless. We're sending him off 'to see his family.' You'll never see him again." everyone says goodbye and that's that.

The point is that the people in charge are keeping secrets: something suspicious is happening, and the setup given in this episode would fit this dramatic situation. Whether or not this dramatic situation is what's happening is more than I can say right now. But just as there is not enough evidence to prove it, there is not enough evidence to refute it.
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Old 2016-07-24, 22:35   Link #178
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PS: No dystopia is build on common people caring. If you want control people you have to NOT let such thing happen.
Where not even sure if "dystopia" is the term that can be used to describe the setting of the show. Meritocracy seems a better fit.
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Old 2016-07-25, 04:45   Link #179
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Of course dystopia is not right term, that's the point I am making whole time. Meritocracy? Sure why not, that's ideal kind of society after all.
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Old 2016-07-25, 12:56   Link #180
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Yea...

I am just here playing games and watching the anime on the side.

Pretty much just listening, no real need to watch. (except when Orange Hair is off-screen)
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