2012-06-04, 03:44 | Link #2321 | |
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While on the subject of this, i can remember another more extreme incident of a seiyuu who never got any work anymore after she was found out that she starred in a porn movie : Ishihara Eriko. (because i was looking that up several years ago why she was replaced in animes and all ages VN's like Memories off Sorekara again) Atleast Miyamura Yuko still got a few roles after that incident (although that scandal did tarnish her repution, so she hardly got any new roles) |
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2012-06-04, 19:51 | Link #2322 | ||
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Personally, I think this is one aspect that Japan needs to get dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st Century about, but that's neither here nor there. Also, I think it's kind of funny how much the Japanese focus on image, when in fact the Japanese pornography industry is among the most prolific and extreme in the world (with its consumers mainly being domestic). Compared to the average Japanese AV title, Yosuga No Sora (with the possible exception of Sora's arc), seems positively wholesome and even educational. Don't look at me like that; all the heroines (with the possible exception of Sora, who may just be unhealthy and co-dependent obsession run riot) honestly fall in love with Haruka in their arcs, and everyone's honest about their feelings. No one plays games with anyone's heart. No one uses contraception, sure, but with the exception of Sora, all the heroines in their arcs seem quite content to be the mother of Haruka's children, and Haruka isn't one to play around either. Quote:
Back to the anime, I noticed that Yahiro from YnS and Nene from Kore Wa Zombie Desu Ka? share the basic body type and "attractive archetype" (basically the slovenly and lazy woman who still manages to look hot and well-endowed). Is there a Japanese term for that kind of character? |
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2012-06-06, 03:46 | Link #2324 | |
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But regardless of this, i mostly agree that it is to keep appearances. Not just for the seiyuu's but for their agencies as well. I don't think that any agency wants a reputation that their seiyuu's are associated with eroges. |
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2012-06-06, 13:15 | Link #2325 |
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^Which just goes to show that in both western and eastern culture, sex is (still) a huge taboo. And that's odd, because the porn industry is both very old and very big in either part of the world.
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2012-06-06, 21:24 | Link #2326 | |
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Just as an example, here's a vid from Majikoi S where Momoyo sings "Happy Birthday" to the player. It's clearly Yuu Asakawa herself, no matter how many pseudonyms she might employ. A case like the veteran eroge seiyuu Ryouko Tanaka is a little less clear-cut; her versatility lets her play someone like Yahiro in YnS but still be able to pull off a high-pitched squeaky voice for a character like Hinata Kagura for H2O: Footprints in the Sand.
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I don't think that quite covers it. Isn't the "onee-san" archetype just mean any older attractive woman? Nene and Yahiro are both shown to be lazy and slovenly, dressing in tank tops and shorts (like the stereotypical "lazy man"), and are both quite fond of beer. Indeed, a more famous character like Misato Katsuragi from the original Evangelion anime series dressed like this way back in the 1990s when she was at home from military work; there has to be a name for this archetype somewhere. |
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2012-06-06, 23:23 | Link #2327 | |
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2012-06-07, 23:04 | Link #2328 | |
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But even nudity in high-class art can still irk the wrong people who would rather there be fig leaves everywhere in museums with Classical Greek/Roman statues. First you tell the kids it's not okay to run around naked; then you have to tell them about how certain nude statues are considered great art. Where the line is drawn about "what's in the porn industry or not" is a bit of a problem with eroges. Some (especially the nuki/yaruges) really are just anime-style pornography. However, I'm sure that if a company like Leaf/Aquaplus or Type-Moon didn't have fans that were screeching for HCGs and could still make a killing purely with all-ages visual novels, those companies would definitely take the opportunity and ditch their h-material. The truth remains, however, that in fanservice anime series like Queen's Blade and its derivatives, or To Love-Ru, or Asobi ni Iku yo!, or Manyuu Hikenchou, etc., female seiyuus are paid to make suggestive noises quite like those in eroges, and no one gives them flak for it. At least the better eroges try to make the h-content work within a good narrative (like YnS did), and I think the seiyuus still deserve credit for that. Too bad about that prejudice, though . . . |
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2012-06-08, 04:56 | Link #2329 | ||
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Most likely because they don't need to make eroge because of their popularity (similar to Circus with D.C. 3 and Key with Rewrite and Clannad) edit: i forgot to mention that those 3 companies became more widely popular because their eroge attracted a wider audience because they had a succesfull eroge adaptation in the form of an all ages anime. Regardless how many fans think that tsukihime anime was horrid, it did sell over 12k dvd's. Quote:
I don't see your point here. You said it yourself that there is a prejudice for eroge and it's looked down, why would you want the seiyuu's to get more credit for something that is even less accepted than "otaku" anime. Last edited by hyl; 2012-06-08 at 05:08. |
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2012-06-09, 09:17 | Link #2330 |
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Yosuga no Sora - Just A Little Discussion
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Yosuga no Sora (ヨスガノソラ?, lit. "Sky of Connection") is a Japanese romance/drama adult visual novel developed by CUFFS ("Sphere"). The game was originally released for Windows PC on December 5, 2008.[1] It was adapted into a serialized manga and a TV anime series. A sequel/fan disk titled Haruka na Sora was released later on October 24, 2009 which contains new and expanded scenarios for several characters from the original game.(wikipedia.org) Well basically I want to start the thread so that I can "Hear to voices of other anime lovers out there"(so to speak). I want to know how you guys think of the game-turned anime... I feel very ambivalent about the anime, since i actually never played it before, I like but something in my guts is disliking it so much. I analyzed what i was feeling, and came to a conclusion. I think I am having fear of psychological animes. I think it's because of School Days( I don't hate the anime but the ending gave me shocker). I wont tell you the story you can watch yourselves... because maybe some have not seen the anime and/or just like me have not played the game. Of course we dont wish to be spoilers here hehe... Anyway please feel free to reply on the treahd... Arigatu Guzaimasu... |
2012-06-09, 10:50 | Link #2333 |
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I enjoyed it, especially as someone who has very liberal moral standards towards incest. The omnibus approach it took as a VN adaptation was clever and I'd like to see it done more often with VN adaptations, especially longer ones.
Pffft. Hahahahaha. Last edited by Tempester; 2012-06-09 at 13:19. |
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But to my knowledge, Leaf was a little more willing to write up eroge plotlines that made the h-elements a key part of the storyline in the past. Tenshi no Inai 12-Gatsu is probably the most famous title of this kind, but I'm sure there are others. One recent title by Leaf in which I think the storyline suffered for the lack of h-elements would be the PS3 version of White Album. Yayoi's route (outlined in the anime) touches upon sexual betrayal, and without that (because of the all-ages nature of the PS3 version) I believe the scenario loses a lot of its impact. It's in our genes to be angry at the prospect of sexual betrayal--sometimes even to the point of murder. Of course, that wasn't the only way to incorporate h-elements into the story so that they became a key part. Touching on something like the "purity image" of singing idols could have worked with Yuki's, or Rina's, or Sayoko's routes, and the (unjustified) consequences that occur when raving otakus turn their backs on idols they consider "second-hand." Quote:
It's because I believe the prejudice against the genre and the seiyuus within is unjustified and irrational. Credit should be given where credit is due. |
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2012-06-13, 21:09 | Link #2335 |
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Although it's not Yosuga no Sora related, looks like the direction and animation staff is coming back to do the animé version of that series Dakara, H Dekinai or however the name is. I don't know if that brings any hope to how much ecchi they will show for that animé.
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I was hoping for another eroge adaptation so they could go for the same success, but I guess that will have to wait. |
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2012-06-25, 10:16 | Link #2337 |
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...i-staff-listed you would be correct good user
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I'm still a bit sore at how, despite the anime's bestselling status, we never got to see the routes for Kozue and Yahiro animated. |
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