AnimeSuki Forums

ashlay · 2008-07-23, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by morbosfist

He could always change his mind. It would be nice if he did, since Suzaku's "Lelocuh is an evil bastard" mentality is getting old.

sadly, the character lacks any purpose without that mentality.

to take away his mindless hate for Lelouch would be to sentence him to death. Which is like killing two birds with two stones really. >_> <_<

KrimzonStriker · 2008-07-23, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashlay

sadly, the character lacks any purpose without that mentality.

to take away his mindless hate for Lelouch would be to sentence him to death. Which is like killing two birds with two stones really. >_> <_<

Then lets give him a new purpose shall we? To stop screwing everything up and get it right for a change in a world that has begun to change to screwing itself over instead.

So he might die, that's a risk all of them take and still have, and at least he would die well!!

morbosfist · 2008-07-23, 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashlay

sadly, the character lacks any purpose without that mentality.

to take away his mindless hate for Lelouch would be to sentence him to death. Which is like killing two birds with two stones really. >_> <_<

He still has his "free Japan" mentality to work with, and we all know he hasn't been using it all that much. He needs to dust it off and fight for something worth fighting for, rather than this stagnant and self-righteous quest to become Knight of One he's fixated on for the moment.

Marsala · 2008-07-23, 20:13

What?! Suzaku will join with Lelouch? Wow. I haven't been so shocked since Athrun joined with Kira. I mean, what a surprise. Nothing foreshadowed this happening at all.

KrimzonStriker · 2008-07-23, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marsala

What?! Suzaku will join with Lelouch? Wow. I haven't been so shocked since Athrun joined with Kira. I mean, what a surprise. Nothing foreshadowed this happening at all.

It's just speculation at this point, but to be honest with the way things are setting up I won't be too picky about where Lelouch gets his help from

Dream_Traveller · 2008-07-23, 20:18

Can't you detect the sarcasm in his words...?

Var · 2008-07-23, 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

Wasn't that in Season 1? And weren't you the one who said what happened then doesn't pertain to what happens now?

Pretty sure it was about Season 2.

KrimzonStriker · 2008-07-23, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dream_Traveller

Can't you detect the sarcasm in his words...?

I was referring to that actually, trying to dumb the whole thing down a little because to be sarcastic he's probably not too enthusiastic for the prospect

Quote:

Originally Posted by Var

Pretty sure it was about Season 2.

I remember that quote from a while back though way before Season 2 started

Well, whatever, what happens in the series itself is what counts

Var · 2008-07-23, 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrimzonStriker

I remember that quote from a while back though way before Season 2 started

A lot of things came from back then and were true, so I do not see why this would be any different.

I just have a shaky feeling about those 'speculations' that I can't drop.

Village Idiot · 2008-07-23, 20:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Var

IIRC weren't Lelouch and Suzaku never going to work together again? Pretty sure Taniguchi said that at some point, and that their cooperation against the Chinese/Japanese in S1 was the last time.

IIRC, didn't Taniguchi say that Suzaku and Zero would never work together again?

If Zero's true identity is revealed, Lelouch would no longer need to use his Zero persona as a disguise, thus he's no longer Zero, but Lelouch.

SoldierOfDarkness · 2008-07-23, 20:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

IIRC, didn't Taniguchi say that Suzaku and Zero would never work together again?

If Zero's true identity is revealed, Lelouch would no longer need to use his Zero persona as a disguise, thus he's no longer Zero, but Lelouch.

Glad to see I'm not the only one that keeps Lelouch and Zero separate.

KrimzonStriker · 2008-07-23, 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Var

A lot of things came from back then and were true, so I do not see why this would be any different.

I just have a shaky feeling about those 'speculations' that I can't drop.

Well, I don't know, it seems like the most logical progression I feel should the necessary elements come together, the trap set by Schneizel, the Order's betrayal, the nuking of Tokyo, Nunnally MIA etc etc >_>

Var · 2008-07-23, 20:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoldierOfDarkness

Glad to see I'm not the only one that keeps Lelouch and Zero separate.

Suzaku doesn't.

KrimzonStriker · 2008-07-23, 20:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Var

Suzaku doesn't.

He might, I think the odds are good that he will

Schneizel · 2008-07-23, 20:49

Corrections/Additions about the supposed episode summaries:
- The Knight of 12 gets killed by Jeremiah's suicide.
- Schneizel actually corners the Emperor in Britannia on the 30th anniversary thing, but the Emperor suddenly disappears saying "Guys I'm doing it for this world fff" (or something like that).
- Where does it say that Anya was picked up by China? It just says that Anya and Mordred are "collected".
- Schneizel (Britannia) and Lelouch (The Super United Nations [note that they use katakana for nations, and kanji for states]) have their final battle in China.

I tried tl'ing the summaries quickly, but that's all I have to add/correct to what was already posted. Here's the whole thing anyway....

NOTICE:
I am putting these up purely for lulz. Do not assume they are real, at all.
Also my Japanese is horrible and this was done painfully quickly.

Spoiler for Read my versions if you want:

Starks · 2008-07-23, 20:54

twelve-tan!?!? Noooooooooooooooo!

Deviannite · 2008-07-23, 20:56

Crappy translations that i found but i guess it'll do....

Spoiler:

morbosfist · 2008-07-23, 20:56

Jeremiah dies again? Noooooooooooooooo!

Why must Orange-kun suffer so?

Var · 2008-07-23, 21:00

Looking at it, don't the Chinese remaining with Lelouch counter the other Korean Speculations that Lelouch will lose everyone but Jeremiah, C.C., and Kallen?

Schneizel · 2008-07-23, 21:00

Quote:

suzaku goes all out in the enemy`s formation.. and what saves him is lulu`s words..

He runs into the enemy base hoping to die. (Or something.)

2008-07-23, 20:49	Link #8055
Schneizel uwu Fansubber Join Date: Dec 2005	Corrections/Additions about the supposed episode summaries: - The Knight of 12 gets killed by Jeremiah's suicide. - Schneizel actually corners the Emperor in Britannia on the 30th anniversary thing, but the Emperor suddenly disappears saying "Guys I'm doing it for this world fff" (or something like that). - Where does it say that Anya was picked up by China? It just says that Anya and Mordred are "collected". - Schneizel (Britannia) and Lelouch (The Super United Nations [note that they use katakana for nations, and kanji for states]) have their final battle in China. I tried tl'ing the summaries quickly, but that's all I have to add/correct to what was already posted. Here's the whole thing anyway.... NOTICE: I am putting these up purely for lulz. Do not assume they are real, at all. Also my Japanese is horrible and this was done painfully quickly. Spoiler for Read my versions if you want: ■第19話　　繰り返す惨劇（8/17）拮抗する黒の騎士団とブリタニア軍。シュナイゼルは戦局打破のため、ニーナの開発したガニメデを投入する。一方スザクは、戦闘をやめさせようとエリア11に向かうが、その前にナイトオブワンが立ち塞がる。混迷を極める戦いの中、ついに恐ろしい事態が発生してしまう。 19: Repeated Tragedy Black Knights vs Britannia. In order to suppress the fighting, Schneizel turns to Nina's Ganymede. Meanwhile, Suzaku, who has come to Area 11 to stop the fighting, is blocked by the Knight of One. Something scary/fearful/etc happens during the battle. ■第20話　　2つの裏切り（8/24）ガニメデに搭載されていた核ミサイルによって、エリア11は崩壊、両軍ともに大きな損失を受ける。多くの日本人が逃げ惑う中、ゼロはあえてブリタニア軍の追撃を指示する。ゼロの無慈悲とも思える命令に、扇や藤堂は不信感を募らせる。そして・・・。 20: 2 Betrayals Area 11 gets owned. Both the Black Knights and Britannia suffer massive loses due to the nuclear missiles on Ganymede. Instead of helping the Japanese, Zero orders them to fight on. Ougi and Toudou become more distrustful of Zero. And... ■第21話　　翼を失った騎士（8/24）カレンに敗れ捕虜となっていたジノは、エリア11の惨状を見て愕然とする。回収されるアーニャとモルドレット。ナイトオブワンに敗れたスザクは、帰還中だった星刻の部隊に救出される。扇や藤堂など、主要メンバーの大半を失ったゼロは、戦力を整えるため、ある場所へと向かう。 21: A Knight w/o Wings Kallen fights Gino, and becomes a captive in Area 11. Anya and the Mordred are picked up. Suzaku gets his ass kicked by the Knight of One and is rescued by Xingke. Zero loses a lot of his principle Order members, such as Ougi and Toudou, for the sake of the war, and they head towards "some place". (China, I guess.) ■第22話　　過去と未来（8/31）中華連邦に到着したルルーシュはスザクと再会する。自らを責めるルルーシュに、スザクはともに背負うと語る。ブリタニア本国では、皇帝即位30周年の式典が開かれていた。その席でシュナイゼルは皇帝に反旗を翻す。追い詰められる皇帝。しかし皇帝は、「こんな世界などくれてやる」との言葉を残して消える。 22: Past and Future Lelouch comes to the Chinese Federation and meets with Suzaku again. Suzaku takes blame onto his shoulders. In Britannia, during the 30th anniversary of the Emperor's rule, Schneizel challenges his father's throne and leads a revolt against the Emperor. However, after cornering the Emperor, the Emperor disappears saying, "I'll gladly give you a world like this". (It's derogatory) ■第23話　　黄昏の戦場（9/6）廃墟と化したエリア11を放棄したシュナイゼルは、中華連邦に攻め込む。迎え撃つ超合集国連合軍。その中にはカレン、ジノ、アーニャ、ジェレミア、星刻、そしてスザクの姿があった。ルルーシュとシュナイゼル、合集国ニッポンとブリタニア帝国の最終決戦が始まる。 23: Battlefield of Twilight (Allusion to Ragnarok?) Schneizel, who ruined Area 11, invades the Chinese Federation. The Super United States struggle against him, when suddenly, Kallen, Gino, Anya, Jeremiah, Xingke and Suzaku show up. Thus begins the final battle between both Lelouch and Schneizel, as well as the United States of Japan and Britannia. ■第24話　　神を殺す剣（9/13）圧倒的な戦力差とシュナイゼルの戦術により、徐々に追い詰められていくルルーシュ達。ジェレミアの特攻によりナイトオブトゥエルブを倒すも、帝国最強のナイトオブワンの前に散ってゆく連合軍。玉砕覚悟で敵陣に飛び込むスザク。そんな彼を救ったのは、ルルーシュのあの言葉だった。 24: The Sword that can kill the Gods Lelouch slow gets fucked by Schneizel due to a massive difference in battle ability and strategy. The Knight of Twelve is killed by Jeremiah going kamikaze. The Super United States get pwnt by the Knight of One. Lelouch saves Suzaku, who has gone into the enemy base on purpose hoping he'll get killed. (He's trying to die honorably. Whether it's in the enemy camp or the enemies line of fire is up to context.) (Timbo's Alt: Suzaku PLUNGES into the enemy base/line hoping to die awesome) (Reikai Alt: Looking for honor, Suzaku leaps into enemy lines. What spurred him was the words of Lelouch (LIVE!)) ■第25話　　WORLD END（9/20）突如シュナイゼルの旗艦アヴァロンを襲った光。その正体はアーカーシャの剣より放たれたレーザーだった。次々と落とされていくナイトメア。このまま世界は終わってしまうのか。約束した未来を掴み取るため、ルルーシュとC.Cは神殿へと向かう。 25: WORLD END The Avalon gets engulfed by light, which turns out to be a laser shot by the Sword of Akasha. Multiple KnightMares are destroyed. Is this the end of the world? Lelouch takes C.C. in hand and walks up the steps of the Temple. ■第26話　　反逆のルルーシュ（9/27　60分SP）世界を滅ぼし、新たな世界を創らんとする皇帝とV.V。皆のいる場所を守るため、優しい世界を作るため、そして何より、契約を果たすため、ルルーシュは皇帝に挑む。 26: Lelouch of the Rebellion (1hr Saturday the 27th Special) The Emperor and V.V. thought that the world needs to be destroyed, and not re-created. Lelouch challenges the Emperor to live up to his contract, defend everyone, and turn the world into a gentle world. Last edited by Schneizel; 2008-07-23 at 22:40. Reason: Fixed.

2008-07-23, 20:54	Link #8056
Starks I see what you did there! Scanlator Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 36	twelve-tan!?!? Noooooooooooooooo! __________________ My list of garbage anime

2008-07-23, 20:56	Link #8057
Deviannite Member Join Date: May 2008	Crappy translations that i found but i guess it'll do.... Spoiler: ■第19話　　繰り返す惨劇（8/17）拮抗する黒の騎士団とブリタニア軍。シュナイゼルは戦局打破のため、ニーナの開発したガニメデを投入する。一方スザクは、戦闘をやめさせようとエリア11に向かうが、その前にナイトオブワンが立ち塞がる。混迷を極める戦いの中、ついに恐ろしい事態が発生してしまう。 theres a battle between britannia army and ootbk.. schnizel uses nina`s invention.. Suzaku tries to stop the battle and heads for area 11 but round knight 1 stops him.. during the battle the fearsome event will happen.. ■第20話　　2つの裏切り（8/24）ガニメデに搭載されていた核ミサイルによって、エリア11は崩壊、両軍ともに大きな損失を受ける。多くの日本人が逃げ惑う中、ゼロはあえてブリタニア軍の追撃を指示する。ゼロの無慈悲とも思える命令に、扇や藤堂は不信感を募らせる。そして・・・。 because of Nina`s nuke missile, area 11 is destroyed..shit... both parties(ootbk and britannia army) took great damage... while many japanese are running, Zero orders to continue fighting the britannia.. ougi and toudou was surprised of zeros`s cold order (what I mean is he didnn`t care for their safety something like that..)and they were dissapointed and.... (its cut so maybe they will betray or something...) ■第21話　　翼を失った騎士（8/24）カレンに敗れ捕虜となっていたジノは、エリア11の惨状を見て愕然とする。回収されるアーニャとモルドレット。ナイトオブワンに敗れたスザクは、帰還中だった星刻の部隊に救出される。扇や藤堂など、主要メンバーの大半を失ったゼロは、戦力を整えるため、ある場所へと向かう。 ( Gino who was captured due to his lost against karen was surprised to see waht happened in area 11.. suzaku was defeated by round knight 1 and was saved by the chineese guy.. (forgot his name... the long hair guy..).. well like what I said.. Zero was left by ougi and toudou and many other crew.. now he went somewhere to get some strength (army or something.. ■第23話　　黄昏の戦場（9/6）廃墟と化したエリア11を放棄したシュナイゼルは、中華連邦に攻め込む。迎え撃つ超合集国連合軍。その中にはカレン、ジノ、アーニャ、ジェレミア、星刻、そしてスザクの姿があった。ルルーシュとシュナイゼル、合集国ニッポンとブリタニア帝国の最終決戦が始まる。 schnizel leaves the destroyed area 11 and attacks china... wow love this part... the union will fight schnizel and the fighting members includes karen, gino(wow), anya, orange kun, the chinese guy, and suzaku(whoah!!)... the final battle of lulu and schnizel, the union and britannia starts. ■第24話　　神を殺す剣（9/13）圧倒的な戦力差とシュナイゼルの戦術により、徐々に追い詰められていくルルーシュ達。ジェレミアの特攻によりナイトオブトゥエルブを倒すも、帝国最強のナイトオブワンの前に散ってゆく連合軍。玉砕覚悟で敵陣に飛び込むスザク。そんな彼を救ったのは、ルルーシュのあの言葉だった。 because of schnizels strategies and battle tactics Lelouch is are losing... due to orangekun`s special attack, he defeated knight 12 but due to knight 1`s strength many people in the union are being defeated... suzaku goes all out in the enemy`s formation.. and what saves him is lulu`s words.. ■第25話　　WORLD END（9/20）突如シュナイゼルの旗艦アヴァロンを襲った光。その正体はアーカーシャの剣より放たれたレーザーだった。次々と落とされていくナイトメア。このまま世界は終わってしまうのか。約束した未来を掴み取るため、ルルーシュとC.Cは神殿へと向かう。 Schneizel` ship was destroyed by some light... that was the god killing sword`s laser (akasha`s sword)... knightmares started to fall (I mean being defeated..) will this world will end?? to achieve their future lulu and CC heads toward the temple... ■第26話　　反逆のルルーシュ（9/27　60分SP）世界を滅ぼし、新たな世界を創らんとする皇帝とV.V。皆のいる場所を守るため、優しい世界を作るため、そして何より、契約を果たすため、ルルーシュは皇帝に挑む。 against charles and VV who wants to destroy the world and make it a new one.. to protect the place of everyone.. to create a good world... and most of all to grant CC`S wish in the contract.. lulu fights Charles

2008-07-23, 20:56	Link #8058
morbosfist Spinning Lotus Join Date: Jul 2008	Jeremiah dies again? Noooooooooooooooo! Why must Orange-kun suffer so? __________________

2008-07-23, 20:13	Link #8044
Marsala Delurker Join Date: Jan 2007	What?! Suzaku will join with Lelouch? Wow. I haven't been so shocked since Athrun joined with Kira. I mean, what a surprise. Nothing foreshadowed this happening at all.

2008-07-23, 20:18	Link #8046
Dream_Traveller Banned Join Date: Jun 2007	Can't you detect the sarcasm in his words...?

2008-07-23, 21:00	Link #8059
Var Banned Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Land of Dead Cakes! Age: 34	Looking at it, don't the Chinese remaining with Lelouch counter the other Korean Speculations that Lelouch will lose everyone but Jeremiah, C.C., and Kallen?